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Goppy9 months, 2 weeks ago
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Locky, The reason I'm looking forward to it is because it will do so much good to help our NATION and our nation's BUSINESS CLIMATE.
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Don't Right Wingers claim to be on the side of BUSINESS?
What could be more helpful to American Business' than to alleviate this tremendous burden.
In my position, I have the opportunity to meet with and consult Company Presidents, CEO's, CFO's, and Small Business Owners.
They ALL ... EVERY ONE ... tell the same story ... that Health Care costs are killing them.
They can't hire people because of their Health Care Cost considerations.
They can't expand because of Heath Care Cost considerations.
It's an untenable situation.
Only those with their head's in the sand ... or those who paint their political world view with Red Herring Code Words ... are opposed to Health Care Reform.
Oh ... and those who work for extraordinarily large and lucrative companies who DEMAND and GET concessions from Health Care Providers.
For instance, Procter and Gamble and General Electric can negotiate HUGE concessions from Health Care providers - which the Health Insurers concede to get these large contracts.
The Health Insurer's, so as to recoup any perceived loss, in turn RAISE rates on every other moderately large business, small business, micro-business, and independent contractors.
In other words ... you pay more ... and get less.
To summarize ... Our nations' Health Care System is in complete collapse and is contributing to our nation's economic meltdown.
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beavith19 months, 2 weeks ago
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let me summarize your comment.
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we can make affordable health care affordable by making someone else pay for it.
OPM doesn't mean its affordable. its just means its socialized (in the generic use of socialization, not the big S version of socialization).
this isn't from the far right, the far left, the far up or the far down.
it just is.
a step back would help too. back in FDRs time health care amounted to palliative care, then folks just die. nowadays, healthcare means everything and the kitchen sink, damn the cost.
Huckabee (yeah... OK... a rightie) has a solid view that working towards prevention is the only real way to bring costs under control, but that's not as viscerally satisfying as running our current system through a meat grinder and hoping something good comes out the other side.
and to save you a hunk of typing, no, this is not moral vacuity. its a clinical approach to reality.-
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Beau78909 months, 2 weeks ago
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Are private insurers working towards prevention to bring costs under control?
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Who has a better chance at doing that: a centralized government plan or a number of private plans? (Who would make private insurers do that rather than simply raising their costs?)
And who do you think pays for most of your healthcare costs under the current system? Businesses--or as you say, "someone else."-
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beavith19 months, 2 weeks ago
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actually, many insurers DO offer prevention discounts, prevention advice and proactive care.
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seriously... do you say centralized government is the way to go? ask 30 million dead Ukrainians how central govt authority worked for them. this is a frightening option.
business pays? you bet. but as a member of a small business, our HSA has worked fabulously for me and the company. too bad we can't do HSAs nationally thanks to resistance by those of who's name we must not speak.-
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Beau78909 months, 2 weeks ago
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Ukranians? No one's talking about Communism except a few hysterical talk-show hosts and the zombies who believe everything they say.
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Centralized government is the way to go for some things, yes.
Healthcare's one of them. Foreign policy is another. Agricultural policy is yet another. So's advanced research that explores technologies not yet profitable enough for private industry to look into.
You're talking about medical savings accounts? As they're currently set up, they're a huge scam by those administering them. If you overestimate how much you'll spend at the beginning of the year when you choose how much to contribute, you lose that money at the end of the year. (Of course, if you underestimate, you're screwed too.) There is no logic behind that except for to pay off the companies in charge of "holding" your HSA money. -
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Beau78909 months, 2 weeks ago
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Funny thing...I just saw this article about the banking crisis Ukraine is experiencing right now, shortly after adapting Western "free-market" style economic policies:
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Ukraine Teeters as Its Citizens
Blame Banks and Government
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/02/world/europe/02u...
From the article:
What is more, the Kremlin would be able to hold up Ukraine as an example of what happens when former Soviet republics follow a Western model of free-market democracy.
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