Cantor, Steele repudiate Rush; wingnuts freak out »
Posted By jovial 8 months, 4 weeks ago in Political NewsRepublicans are hopelessly stuck with the same problem that has plagued them through two election cycles: a vast gulf between their base and majority of Americans. And, as we know, Obama and Democrats have successfully exploited this by focusing attention on Rush Limbaugh, driving the wedge between Republican officials and American voters even deeper.
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jovial8 months, 4 weeks ago
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STEELE: "Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. His whole thing is entertainment. Yes, it's ugly. Yes, it's incendiary."
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"So the Rush Limbaugh approach of hoping the president fails is not the Eric Cantor, House Republican approach?" [Stephanopoulos] asked.
"Absolutely not," Cantor said. "And I don't -- I don't think anyone wants anything to fail right now. We have such challenges. What we need to do is we need to put forth solutions to the problems that real families are facing today."-
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Goppy8 months, 4 weeks ago
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I see this as a power struggle ... but I don't see how Steele can win.
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Michael Steele was elected as Chairman of the Republican National Committee - a Leader of the Republican Party.
However - most Modern Republicans see Rush Limbaugh as their Ideological Spokesperson ... a veritable MESSIAH. They quote him, they employ his talking points in debate, and they listen to his programs in the same way they attend church.
While Steele seems like an honest, good person ... it is this very quality that makes him out to be not a good fit for a Political Party that gleefully embraces Torture, Welfare for the Wealthy, and Keeping Children from getting Health Care.
For THAT kind of agenda, you need a truly depraved hypocrite who can communicate cynicism with just the right delivery that The Modern Right Wing in America finds entertaining.
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jovial8 months, 4 weeks ago
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People like Jindal and Steele were boosted as a way to improve the Republican image with minority voters. This is an interesting corner they've painted themselves into. If they come down too hard on Steele they risk alienating people that they are so eagerly trying to recruit. Yes it's true, Republicans really don't want honest candidates. They want a guy that will toe the party line and use the talking points. For these politicians to cross that line spells trouble for them. Let's see how they handle this. I wonder if they can get Steele to apologize to Limbaugh as other Republican politicians have in the past.
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fiftynine8 months, 4 weeks ago
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"STEELE: "Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. His whole thing is entertainment. Yes, it's ugly. Yes, it's incendiary."
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That was supposedly true until he started talking to republicans in a political forum...He is now a mouth piece for the republican party.His speech (if you want to call it that) was not entertainment,it was at best anti American hate wrapped in a neocon blanket. -
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Klarissa8 months, 4 weeks ago
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jovial8 months, 4 weeks ago
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Don't pass up the comments that the author posted coming from right wing sites. He posted 6 pages of them with updates. Here's one that shows a glimpse of what Republicans are saying about Steele:
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"Steele really disappointed me in his comments. I wonder if he is revealing his deep hidden allegiance to obuma’s skin in the game loyalty of race?????
Rush’s comments were clear, consise and to the point. Rush said what the Repubs are too, scared to say "the truth."
In summation, steele is just "another got skin in da game rino brother."
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Tangent0018 months, 4 weeks ago
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"...and maybe doing something about our open primary system and fixing it so that Democrats don’t nominate our candidates..."
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OMFG! He has the NERVE to say something like this after his 'Operation Chaos' where he urged his listeners to register as Democrats so they could vote for Hillary in the primaries in order to keep the party from uniting? -
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jovial8 months, 4 weeks ago
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Limbaugh had this to say in response to Steele's statement.
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"I'm not in charge of the Republican Party, and I don't want to be," he said. " I would be embarrassed to say that I'm in charge of the Republican Party in the sad-sack state that it's in. If I were chairman of the Republican Party, given the state that it's in, I would quit. I might get out the hari-kari knife because I would have presided over a failure that is embarrassing to the Republicans and conservatives who have supported it and invested in it all these years."
“I hope the RNC chairman will realize he’s not a talking head pundit, that he is supposed to be working on the grassroots and rebuilding it and maybe doing something about our open primary system and fixing it so that Democrats don’t nominate our candidates,” Limbaugh said, his voice rising. “It’s time, Mr. Steele, for you to go behind the scenes and start doing the work that you were elected to do instead of trying to be some talking head media star, which you’re having a tough time pulling off.”
"You know who needs a little leadership? Michael Steele and those at the RNC,” Limbaugh said, part of an unusual counter-attack against the elected head of the GOP."
Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) who last month took a shot at Limbaugh to POLITICO only to appear on his program the next day and plead momentary “foot-in-mouth disease.
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jovial8 months, 4 weeks ago
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Here's what happened to the last Republican to cross Rush's path.
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Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA), the chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee apologized Wednesday to “my fellow conservatives” for comments critical of talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh – saying he sees “eye-to-eye” with Limbaugh and that his remarks defending House Republican leadership came across more harshly than intended.
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gamahuche8 months, 4 weeks ago
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Inconceivable in any other country where I have ever lived that a weird and extremist radio personality who makes his millions SOLELY on the basis of being a rabble-rousing sh** stirrer could ever have such an influence on the politics of a nation - let alone having one of teh major parties in thrall to his off-the-wall persona and pronouncements..
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I'd maybe try to spend a few weeks trying to puzzle it out but I'd have a big bill for a hair-transplant at the end of it for sure. -
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greenmac8 months, 4 weeks ago
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I find it so hard to understand the following Rush has...it is a bit like a horror movie. The undead are replaced by the unthinking. To put this loud mouth on a pedestal only seves to demean the Republican party and increase Rush's and account.
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It would be interesting to see what the republican party would have done to get out of the current problem. They seem unable to see how immense the problem is and if the current trend is not slowed down , how it will result in social decay and crime. They appear to distrust social programs that are being used to keep individuals and families alive. Well maybe when their jobs and businesses fail they can do their part and refuse any assistance.-
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jordan118 months, 4 weeks ago
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The republican party is ugly. Their base is ugly. Their message is ugly. They love limbaugh because he incites that base with his ugliness. I don't like ugly. I'll pass on these freaks. If they worked to clean up this mess I wouldn't trust em. At their core is ugly, and I will NEVER vote for anyone who says they're a republican.
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fiftynine8 months, 4 weeks ago
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not2needy8 months, 4 weeks ago
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So true jordan. While on the campaign trail, Obama was trying to deal with the issues, while McCain and Palin made personal attacks.
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NOT ONCE did Obama lower himself to their levels. Not one time did Obama question McCain ethics, and everyone knows how unethical McCain is and has been since the day he returned from Nam. Obama never attacked Mc or Palin's families, but everything in the world was said about Michelle Obama.
They are all an ugly bunch, mean and evil to the core. I used to try to vote for the best person, but for the last few years there's not been any republican i would say was honest or decent enough to get my vote either. -
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cowboygrandpa8 months, 4 weeks ago
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Klarissa:
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No!!!!
The lucid and rational, those who see Limbaugh as the anti American, rabble rousing gas bag like the Bund Party back in the days of Hitler.
And the irrational, fearful, paranoid followers of the rabble rousing Limpbag.
But yeah OK if you want to say Democrats and Republicans. That fits too. LMAO hahahaahahaaa -
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Harbeas8 months, 4 weeks ago
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How any one can support a fool who wishes Obama would fail is beyond me. If Obama fails, we are in deep, deep trouble. I don't care what party you belong to but we need cooperation between the parties, not divisiveness. Any moron can see this.
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simonsez8 months, 4 weeks ago
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If Obama is successful, we are in deep trouble. The challenge of this downturn could have been dealt with in FAR LESS costly ways, but Raum Emanual, pelosi and reed see it as a golden opportunity to hamstring the population and push through their agenda.
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Do you really think throwing $4 trillion at this is the way to solve it? God help us from you nitwits.
Have you noticed the market does not think it is such a good plan? Wake up!
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fiftynine8 months, 4 weeks ago
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"How any one can support a fool who wishes Obama would fail...." as Harbewas said i agree with.
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As much as i disliked bush i never hoped for him to fail I did hope the time would pass faster and he would be gone before he could do more damage.Fail, no,never.
Anyone that hopes for the failure of an American president is also hoping for the failure of America and should be dealt with accordingly...remember this idiot (rush) never served,called soldiers that did phony,is a racist,a drug addled hypocrite of the highest order and people listen to him and believe what he says..That is what this country is up against. -
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Mutainia8 months, 4 weeks ago
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What brought down the Republican Party was trying to fill in for the Democratic Party when the Democratic Party became popular being government hand-out promising Socialist. There is no more Republican Party, and, come to think of it, there is no more America, either... well, not an America with a system of checks and balances anymore. All hail Obama, America's first dictator since FDR.
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smithichie8 months, 4 weeks ago
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Of course there are still checks and balances in America, The Supreme Court has not been disbanded, Congress and The Senate both still have their own agendas and desire for maintaining their power and in less than 2 years we the people will be yet another check. But hey, why let facts get in the way of riling up the next Tim McVeigh?
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wtagg8 months, 4 weeks ago
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I would think you should worry more about the databases that exist vs. ones that may be possibly proposed.
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Can you say the word *credit*?
We've already discussed the immigrant problem. Fine and jail the employers. In fact, I think an employer should be required to provide some level of health care to any immigrant they wish to sponsor to work here. Make them make the commitment.
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ChefEOD8 months, 4 weeks ago
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The real problem here is that what Obama desires are changes to our government and way of life at fundamental levels - making government the supplier of all needs and desires. If that just happens to "fix" the economy along the way so much the better but if not, well too bad for us.
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Beau78908 months, 4 weeks ago
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The real problem (for you and like-minded individuals) is that Obama wants to make fundamental changes to what government stands for--to bring it back to where it was before 1980. (That is not to say he's making it the supplier of "all needs and desires.)
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Obama is reversing the direction taken by this country when Ronald Reagan became president. Reagan's agenda is arguably at the base of our economy's problems today.
The pendulum is finally swinging back from inequality and plutocracy. As I've said before, get used to it. -
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hyperbola8 months, 4 weeks ago
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Actually Obama is not nearly radical enough. He is still trying to prop up a corrupt system in which the super-rich parasitize off average Americans.
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“A Whole New Kind of Struggle is Emerging”
The financial crisis is quickly turning into a political crisis. Already governments in Iceland and Latvia have collapsed and the global slump is just beginning to accelerate. Riots and street violence have broken out in Greece, Latvia and Lithuania and ....
... The one place in the world where this world historical ferment appears to not be having telling effect at present is the United States. This can be traced to two reasons. First, the United States as the center of a world empire is a fortress of conservatism. Second, the election of the Obama administration has confused progressive forces, leading to absurd notions that the Democrats under Obama are going to create a New New Deal without renewed pressure arising from a revolt from below. Meanwhile, under Obama’s watch, and with the help of his chosen advisers, vast amounts of state funds are being infused into the financial system to benefit private capital....
...The obvious weak link of the whole political, ideological and economic structure in command in the United States today, is that the system has clearly failed to meet peoples’ real needs. Rather than addressing these pressing needs in the crisis, the emphasis of the economic overlords is to bailout private capital at virtually any cost.... The robbing of public funds to bailout private capital is now on a scale probably never before seen. A politicized, organized working class capable of understanding and reacting to that theft, and choosing thereby to restructure society, to meet real social, egalitarian needs is what is now to be hoped for. ...
...The fact that Geithner, Obama’s pick for Treasury Secretary, is overseeing the enormous robbery taking place, probably exceeding any theft in history, with the ordinary taxpayers picking up the tab, should certainly cause one to ask questions about the “progressive” nature of the new administration....
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/a-whole-new-...
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fiftynine8 months, 4 weeks ago
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"You folks are going to own this one ... "..Sorry but ownership is the repug party.The dems will do as we always do..repair your mess..
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Now you know that if it works it will be all yours ..if it fails it will be the dems...You all are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on this planet.
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Klarissa8 months, 4 weeks ago
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try this on for size:
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"Owners of capital will stimulate working class to buy more and more of expensive goods, houses, and technology, pushing them to take more and more expensive credits, until their debt becomes unbearable.
The unpaid debt will lead to bankruptcy of banks, which will have to be nationalized, and the State will have to take the road which will eventually lead to communism."
Karl Marx, 1867
My comment: Obama's "stimulus" is not a stimulus, it is the passage of a lot of government programs and giveaways that never would have been passed if considered individually,
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
- - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party
Presidential candidate 1940
My comment: the first step is to put everyone into the computer so you can control them. (or take away their guns, Germany, 1941.)-
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Goppy8 months, 4 weeks ago
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DenCuddy8 months, 4 weeks ago
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"Owners of capital will stimulate working class to buy more and more of expensive goods, houses, and technology, pushing them to take more and more expensive credits, until their debt becomes unbearable.
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Thanks Klarissa, you just summarised Bush's economic plan very succinctly.
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simonsez8 months, 4 weeks ago
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Even when you guys win an election, you remain anxious and unsure of yourselves.
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Any of you want to proclaim that the stimulus package was the best you could do? Are you sure? Do you know where any of the money is going and what sort of jobs you can expect it to generate?
Can middle management fat asses build roads and bridges?
Does buying new vehicles for the government really provide new jobs or does it just bail out Detroit for awhile? Do they even buy American? Do they buy some of each? Do they pay competitive prices or do they overpay as usual?
Who is going to re-furbish government buildings? Can a middle manager tear out the innards of a building, breathing all that dust and pollution and re-do it? Is this a good way to spend money we don't have?
What a mess? Thank you Pelosi ... thank you Reed ... thank you Obama for SAVING the nation.
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Georgia508 months, 4 weeks ago
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One can state the fact without knowing the truth. Rush is an entertainer...fact. But is Rush as enterteainer the sum total of his influence? Thanks to Obama and Rush's detractors, Rush has the attention of grass roots Republicans, conservatives, and even disenchanted Democrats.
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There's a growing political dynamic in play. Don't look now but Rush is the hombre riding herd on this one.-
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jovial8 months, 4 weeks ago
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Reverse psychology on such an elementary level. Yes we will continue to talk about Rush and his follies until he stops talking. It doesn't help when Republican Congressman apologize to him on National radio. It makes one question who's really running things.
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retbg8 months, 4 weeks ago
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Mr. Limbaugh is a massive ego with an audience for his kind of gutter politics. I'm a Republician and I assure you, the "mouth that roared" does not represent my point of view whatsoever.
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As Republicans, we need to do better if we want back in power.-
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DarkWizard8 months, 4 weeks ago
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retbg,
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There are some here who were Republicans at some point, including myself, that would like to see the real Republicans again. This would give the American people better choices in elections and spark political competition on a "best man/woman for the job" basis instead of voting for the lesser of two evils. Although, I didn't consider Obama to be the lesser of two evils in this last election. This was the first time I felt some hope from a candidate in quite a while. Good luck to you and the real Republicans in reclaiming your party. -
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Georgia508 months, 4 weeks ago
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Ret,
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Dismissing Rush is easy. I'm no fan myself.
Dismissing his ideas as he expresses them?
Go for it. Surely in a 1.5 hour speech he left you and the wharf rats in here ample target-rich commentary with which to attack him. I've yet to see a single person in here attack Rush by explaining and opposing reasonably one single direct quote from that speech.
Not even the fishmonger in the White House managed to do it. I guess the fishmonger wants us to think he's a shark when in reality he's just a hush puppy.
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donald518 months, 4 weeks ago
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Wow, you can sure tell the un-Americans who support torture, preemptive war, eavesdropping on Americans, greedy bankers getting more without accountability, and the unitary Executive (only if a repug in the presidency) hereon... look at all their red ratings!
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Un-Americans that think the repug convictions from Watergate, Irana Contra and Plamegate were wong - folks with no scrupples at all!-
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Georgia508 months, 4 weeks ago
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Donald,
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Wow. Where have you been?
1. torture. Obama changed nothing.
2. preemtive war. As Illinois rep, Obama defended preemptive strike against Iran.
3. eavesdropping. Obama had opportunity to let warrentless wiretaps go away by having his justice dept. drop the case. He declined.
4. greedy bankers. Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac. No further commentary needed.
Even if on purpose, how does one allow his intelligence to sink this low? And more to the point, why?
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Tangent0018 months, 4 weeks ago
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Steele has already 'kissed the ring'. HeII, he didn't just kiss it, he gave it a r i m j o b.
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“My intent was not to go after Rush – I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh,” Steele said in a telephone interview. “I was maybe a little bit inarticulate. … There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership.” -
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frctm58 months, 4 weeks ago
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This is too much fun. Defeat is causing an identity crisis in the Republican party. When a radio host can hold so much sway over their internal squabbles, they're truly in trouble. That's the funny thing about ditto heads. Their so brainwashed they can have no other gods before Rush. They call Obama the Messiah when no one fits that description better than Rush does for the ditto heads. And their so blinded by his indoctrination that they would rather abandon the Republican party when it strays from Rush Limbaughs graces than win elections. I always knew that Rush would wind up being our secret weapon. Keep going little ditto heads. I want you to continue to obey Rush.
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NoWayMan8 months, 4 weeks ago
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according to arbitron, in 2006 rush had 13.5 million listeners PER WEEK, or roughly 2.7 million daily listeners (based on 5-day work week)
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are you trying to say rush's listener-ship has gone up nearly 450% in just over two years?
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fiftynine8 months, 4 weeks ago
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What that speaks to is the stupidity of his listeners,the anti American stance many of them have,and the fear of the boogy man that the repug party has instilled in them...
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Anyone that gets facts from a lazy,pompous,drug addict deserves what they get ...the rest of us don't !!
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