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Posted By TechnologyExpert 9 months, 2 weeks ago in NewsCook County, Illinois Sheriff Tom Dart announced on Thursday that his office has sued Craigslist over the websites "erotic services" section, which the sheriff said facilitates prostitution.
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Justice4All9 months, 2 weeks ago
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Beau78909 months, 2 weeks ago
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From the article:
In the lawsuit, Cook County has asked for $100,000 in compensation for the man-hours spent by the county for investigation of, well, call girl (and guy) services on the site.
While you're correct that prostitution is illegal, spending $100,000 in Cook County to go after Craigslist is just plain stupid. Cook County has almost 6 million people. I'm absolutely certain the sheriff could find a better way to spend $100,000 in order to "serve and protect" those people.
Gee...I wonder if this headline-grabbing case could have anything to with the fact that Dart will be up for re-election within a year?(comment_max_expanded_depth : 100000) (comment depth : 4) (recursion depth : 3) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 100000)Reply
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Progressive9 months, 2 weeks ago
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Here's the response from Cragslist:
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/afp/20090307/tc_afp/usc...(comment_max_expanded_depth : 100000) (comment depth : 5) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 100000)Reply
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earthlingerer9 months, 2 weeks ago
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"US law protects Craigslist and other websites from being responsible for content posted by users, the website's lawyers argue."
All I need to know.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 100000) (comment depth : 6) (recursion depth : 5) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 100000)Reply
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Beau78909 months, 2 weeks ago
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Take it up with Jim Buckmaster, CEO of Craigslist, and his lawyers. I imagine they've done their research on the matter.
While I'm sure there is no law specifically stating it, I'm sure they'll be able to cite legal precedents for you.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 100000) (comment depth : 8) (recursion depth : 7) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 100000)Reply
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Beau78909 months, 2 weeks ago
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No, Progressive gave a link to and article quoting Jim Buckmaster, which included the quote in earthlingerer's comment to which you object. I see nothing on this thread Progressive actually wrote except "Here's the response from Craigslist:".
You can see the full response from Craigslist, which includes the quote and more detail, here:
http://blog.craigslist.org/2009/03/cl-ceo-mystifie...
You, however, are "full of crap," as I strongly doubt you're as familiar with cases in which websites have been held not to be responsible for user-posted content as Craigslist's lawyers.
Craigslist has been involved in similar lawsuits in the past. Your opinion as an ex-cop, on the other hand, means less than nothing in court.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 100000) (comment depth : 10) (recursion depth : 9) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 100000)Reply
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Beau78909 months, 2 weeks ago
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If you wanted to know where Progressive's information came from, you could have gone to the link. You're sitting at the computer. Do a little work before you accuse people.
Was your police work also as lacking in research as this?(comment_max_expanded_depth : 100000) (comment depth : 12) (recursion depth : 11) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 100000)Reply
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Beau78909 months, 2 weeks ago
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Uh huh.
Then you knew earthlingerer's quote came from the article.
So what makes you think the quote came from Progressive's imagination?(comment_max_expanded_depth : 100000) (comment depth : 14) (recursion depth : 13) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 100000)Reply
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Beau78909 months, 2 weeks ago
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Here's what you said:
If you have nothing better to offer than your imagination, take your nonsense someplace else.
I told you Buckmaster has lawyers who have studied this and won similar cases in court before.
You do not have lawyers of your own, nor do you have any expertise in the matter.
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Progressive9 months, 2 weeks ago
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Since your comment appeared under "earthlingerer's", I wasn't even aware that you thought you were addressing me, Global_Warmer. I made no comment on the article, nor did I represent myself as an intellectual property attorney or anything else, for that matter. As Beau pointed out, I merely supplied a link. If you wish to perceive that as "passing along someone else's crap", so be it, but now you've soiled your own hands with the same excrement, have you not?
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Beeboppin719 months, 2 weeks ago
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Why is he so upset? Craigslist does cooperate with police stations.
From your link on Craigslist:
"We assist police forces all over the country, including members of Sheriff Dart's department," Buckmaster said."
They even have an Attorney General approved, anti-abuse plan concerning the sex trade.
From your link on Craigslist:
"Craigslist says it has since instituted new measures to prevent the website from being used as a tool in the illegal s*x tr*de and implemented an anti-abuse plan endorsed by attorneys general in Illinois and 39 other states."
Maybe, as a ex-cop, he doesn't really appreciate the extra help?(comment_max_expanded_depth : 100000) (comment depth : 11) (recursion depth : 10) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 100000)Reply
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Progressive9 months, 2 weeks ago
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I think Global_Warmer is confused. Perhaps he's one of those ex-cops who shoot first and ask questions later.
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earthlingerer9 months, 2 weeks ago
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I love it when police make it seem like they're "doing something."
It must have been a slow eek in the news for the sheriff to call the local news about his "war on classifieds."
Suing craigslist for people using their services to sell prostitution is like suing GM over drunken drivers or gun manufacturers because some people use guns on others.
Foolish, in a word.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 100000) (comment depth : 2) (recursion depth : 1) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 100000)Reply
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Beau78909 months, 2 weeks ago
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You're a moron, and a lazy one at that.
Campaigning starts early, and there is an election in Cook County in November.
You'd have known that if you'd looked it up at the computer you're sitting at before shooting your mouth off and displaying your ignorance.
Once again, you prove why so many people distrust police to do any comprehensive investigating before jacking up suspects.(comment_max_expanded_depth : 100000) (comment depth : 5) (recursion depth : 4) (max_comment_reply_depth : 40) (comment_max_render_depth : 100000)Reply
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