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Posted By capj71 10 months ago in Political NewsThe Supreme Court today declined to hear an appeal of a case brought by Ralph Nader against the state of Arizona, and its law requiring Independent candidates to register earlier than candidates affiliated with the two political parties.
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berkeley10 months ago
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the monopoly that the dems and repubs almost have just hit a roadblock. we all have benefited from the efforts of ralph nader.
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some form of instant runoff or proportional voting is the most critical change that will end their power, and they will fight it to the end.-
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Endoscopy10 months ago
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berkeley10 months ago
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all of the rules that restrict third parties, as the article shows, are written by the dems and repubs working together to keep them out.
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instant runoff voting allows individuals, not simply parties, a fair chance at winning.
for instance, ross perot got 20 million votes (19%) in 1992, drawing from both the dems and repubs. how many more people would have voted for him had instant runoff voting been in place?
i feel the same was true for the 2000 election. both parties did their best to discredit nader because they didn't want their monopoly challenged.
historically, third parties have not gained power because of the forces waged against them, rather than their merits. -
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wtagg10 months ago
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You are happy with the two choices provided you in the last election? That means you support everything that McCain (I assume, sure you could be a secret Obama admirer) stood for. Wow, we have identified a liberal.
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Endoscopy10 months ago
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My point is it does not matter what you want but you have to live with what you get. The biggest chance recently was Ross Perot. All he accomplished was to throw the election to Clinton for two years. The problem is that the two parties split the political spectrum. Democrats have liberals and the Republicans have the conservatives.
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The point in time that a third party might have had a chance was when the two parties were in the middle of the political shift. Before 1900 the Republican party was liberal and the Democrat party was conservative. FDR and Wilson started the shift of liberals into the Democrat party and Goldwater finalized the shift of conservatives into the Republican party. That time is over.
Now the real fight is for the moderates to decide the elections. Like it or not that is what we are forced to live with. If a third party gets big enough then either the conservative or liberal group will end up taking it into that party. The platform will include that third parties ideas and suck them back into where they came from. That has happened many times. People want to be in a group that has power. All a third party can hope to do is bend one or the other party to them if they get big enough.-
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willottica10 months ago
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If Clinton had been a better choice than Nader to those who voted for him, he couldn't have spoiled anything.
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You call Nader egotistic because he runs without the "blessing" of a major party. But why should the major parties determine our choices? -
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wtagg10 months ago
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We may have had a republican president, but would that have changed the complexion of the 94 congressional results? I think they were a reflection upon the efforts of the first two clinton years. I believe those results brought the clinton admin back into line for the most part of his remaining tenure.
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tadair91910 months ago
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How can anyone not love Nader's integrity? If lightning struck Bush and Gore in 2000, we may have ended up with a terrific country.
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Not because I agree with all of Nader's policies, but because he passes the litmus test. Him and Kucinich are the amongst the best liberals out there. -
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tadair91910 months ago
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Google "Instant-runoff voting." Spain's parliament uses it. The Liberterian party uses it. County central committees use it to elect officers. But, for some reason, our national elections don't use it. They don't want third-parties. They want us to be brainless and polarized good little R's or D's. They don't want us to think. They want us to think that it isn't the system that is spoiled, that it must be the candidate.
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bbalden10 months ago
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I voted for Nader. A vote for principles in which you believe can never be considered a vote wasted. And I disagree with the previous characterization of Nader as a liberal. For those many who may associate him with litigation or withheld support for fear of a notion of even more governmental intrusion in our lives, I'd encourage you to research the man. I believe that he's all about capitalism. But capitalism that's answerable to its customers. Representation that's answerable. Ralph has made a life's work of fighting for all of us. As long as we insist that a third party isn't viable, we'll continue to be subjects to the commercialized form of government that convinces us that we as citizens hold a lesser voice in the direction of our country than the corporations that sell us our clothes, our presidents and our wars.
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