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cowboygrandpa9 months, 3 weeks ago

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Goppy:

LOL

I don't think any religion is the religion of peace.
As long as men run them they are going to be contaminated by the desires of men.

Religion in and of itself is mans way of thinking he is doing the things God wants us to do.

But one can do these things with the wrong thoughts in ones heart and still not be doing as God commands.

I think Jesus Christ is the Lord of Peace. In Him one has peace.

Without Him one has man made rules to make man feel better, to ease the feeling of guilt or emptiness.

To me any man made religion is totalitarian in its goals. For it seeks to enslave a man forever into the untruths of man over the Truths of God.

Now I know this may not be popular. But the truth seldom is.

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  Goppy9 months, 3 weeks ago
  
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  DOH!!
  
  You're right.
  
  I was thinking in a vacuum - (something my critics claim to be an invariable circumstance).
  
  I was imagining the CONCEPT of each religion. Each of which is eminently beautiful.
  
  But you are exactly right ... no sooner does a religion emerge than the marketers of proselytization apply various "inducements" to others to 'join-up'.
  
  I've noticed that .. in this country ... in this time ... the technique used by my fellow Christian Conservatives is a subtle message ... some applications of this technique include....
  
  "if you don't become a Christian, you are going to hell."
  
  "Only baby-killers choose to not become Christian."
  
  "Join our Christian Evangelical movement and you too can stop recycling."
  
  "We're Rock Stars for God and we are TRASHIN this planet ... and screw Al Gore! ... yeah ... right on mother f**ker!"
  
  "if you don't become a Christian, you are going to hell."
  
  "Join our Christian movement and you get a free, autographed photo of George W. Bush."
  
  "If you are a guy ... you should know that ... in our Modern Christian Vision ... the man is KING of the home and his woman has to obey him."
  
  "If you are a woman ... feel the freedom of never having to have your own opinion ... or choice."
  
  "if you don't become a Christian, you are going to hell."
  
  "If you join us ... you can tell your smug Catholic neighbors that their religion is for ******." ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qNi7tPanUA
  
  "Join us ... we believe Global Warming is God's way of smiling on us ... giving us warmer winters."
  
  "You don't want to give your money to GOVERNMENT .... give it to US instead ... Government is the hand-maiden of the debil."
  
  "if you don't become a Christian, you are going to hell."
  
  "If you think you have homersexual tendencies ... your best option would be to join us ... and repress those tendencies."
  
  "if you don't become a Christian, you are going to hell."
  
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  These are just a few of the well branded marketing efforts of the Modern American Christian Conservative Movement.
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      Dionys9 months, 3 weeks ago
      
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      Just to address your ridiculous statement regarding 'infidels' (thus likely proving all your other assertions wrong):
      
      http://harpers.org/archive/2009/03/hbc-90004500
      
      1. What are the three biggest misperceptions Americans have about the global Islamic community?
      
      Prof. Juan Cole:
      
      One: If you watch American television, you see the most extreme charges against Muslims set forth by pundits. Some allege that Muslims are inherently violent and commanded by scripture to attack infidels.
      
      In fact, the Quran forbids murder and commands Muslims to make peace with people who seek peace with them.
      
      The “infidels” whom the Quran urges the faithful to combat were the militant pagans of ancient Mecca, who had aggressively attacked the Muslims and were trying to kill them all.
      
      The Quran praises the Hebrew Bible and the Gospels as full of “guidance and light,” celebrates the children of Israel, and says that Christians are closest in love to Muslims. Of course, some Muslims are bigoted and manage to ignore those parts of their scripture, but it is not the case that the religion is essentially militant. I’ve gone with Americans to the Middle East, and after a few days they typically come and confess to me that they are amazed at how nice the people are, how kind and generous to foreigners, and how little they resemble U.S. media stereotypes.
      
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        mcgrievysr9 months, 3 weeks ago
        
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        sonofreason----Actually it was just explained to you, and YOU are the one who has no clue.
        
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        willottica9 months, 3 weeks ago
        
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        I got it. But why didn't you also do one for the Jews?
        
        Hypocrisy is the act of condemning in others what you yourself do.
        
        As a Christian, condemning the acts that other Christians do (and ignoring those of non-Christians) is not hypocrisy so much as trying to remove the plank from one's own eye before looking for the splinter in one's neighbor's eye.
        
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        Mutainia9 months, 2 weeks ago
        
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        Also, the Quran says it's a "reminder and a confirmation of that which went before it" (the Bible), and, that a Christian "has no ground to stand upon unless he stands firm upon the Injil (the Gospel), which is so very strange being that the Gospel is all about Jesus going to the cross to take away spiritual death so humans can escape hell, and, the Quran is mostly dealing with putting your patooti up in the air five times a day, EVERY day, for the rest of your life to escape hell THAT way, meaning that, when the Quran is saying it's a "reminder and a confirmation of that which went before it" (the Bible), it's a lie.
        
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