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Posted By pc25 8 months, 1 week ago in NewsTitle: To REAUTHORIZE AND REFORM the national service laws.
Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [NY-4] (introduced 3/9/2009) Cosponsors (37)
Related Bills: H.RES.250, S.277
Latest Major Action: 3/23/2009 Senate floor actions. Status: Cloture on the motion to proceed to the measure invoked in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 74 - 14. Record Vote Number: 108.
House Reports: 111-37
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pc258 months, 1 week ago
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from the Livrary of Congress
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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR013...
Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act or the GIVE Act - Amends the National and Community Service Act of 1990 (NSCA) and the Domestic Volunteer Service Act of 1973 (DVSA) to revise the programs under such Acts and reauthorize appropriations for such programs through FY2014.
Revises under NSCA: (1) the School-Based and Community-Based Service-Learning programs and Higher Education Innovative Programs for Community Service (Learn and Serve programs); (2) National Service Trust programs (AmeriCorps); (3) the National Civilian Community Corps (NCCC); and (4) the Investment for Quality and Innovation program.
Eliminates the current Community-Based Learn and Serve programs.
Establishes two new Learn and Serve programs: (1) Campuses of Service, which provides funds to institutions of higher education to develop or disseminate exemplary service-learning programs that assist their students' pursuit of public service careers; and (2) Innovative Service-Learning Programs and Research, which funds community service-learning opportunities for elementary and secondary, college, and graduate students as well as research into service-learning.
Includes among eligible AmeriCorps programs: (1) an Education Corps to address unmet educational needs; (2) a Healthy Futures Corps to address unmet health needs; (3) a Clean Energy Corps to address unmet environmental needs; and (4) a Veterans Corps to address the unmet needs of veterans and their families. -
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icono18 months, 1 week ago
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ForrestPhelps8 months ago
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To: pc25
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"The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act or the GIVE Act amends the National and Community Service Act of 1990 (NSCA) and the Domestic Volunteer Service Act of 1973 (DVSA) to revise the programs under such Acts and reauthorize appropriations for such programs through FY2012."
Who was President in 1990, when the NSCA was passed? Or in 1973 when the DVSA was passed?
This is simply extending and amending programs passed under Republican Presidents.
Go to:
http://www.nationalservice.gov/about/role_impact/h...
For a bit of information.
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Goppy8 months ago
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You maybes onta somthin thar good buddie.
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I was ata meetin they other day. It was a LIBBIE meetin!
I went undercover. I had one of them Big Nose n Glasses with tha mustash - a bowler hat - trenchcoat - and note pad and pencil.
I took copeus ... copiass ... copeus ... ... ... I took lotsa notes.
Here's a bit of what them Socialist, commie-lovin libbies was a sayin!
Listen up.
They said the Middle Classes was a gonna get a TAX CUT.
AND THAT RIGHT THAR IS CLASS WARFARE!!!
Only the RICH FOLK is aposed to get tax cuts! Thats the Republican Way!
That aint all - them Libbie commie socialistiics (not to be confused with teh Fantastics) is talkn bout SERVICE to our NATION!
AND HORRORS OF HORRORS ... VOLUNTEEISM.
LAND O GOSHEN!!
Dont dem Libbie Commie Socialistics know that we Righties dont volunteer for NUTHIN ... less it's a handout from the Fed ... the ACUL ... or Social Security.
Sheesh ...
Dem Dems is a quazy bunch.
Although - I like how they let everbody talk when they are in big grups. Thats real nice. When I go to my Right Wing Meetins ... if somebody says somethin unflatterin bout our Messiah Rush Limbaugh ... they get a shank in the eye.
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But ... that's whut makes us Righties so special .... our passion.
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Tangent0018 months ago
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What's the point? Y'all never listen anyway.
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This is a straw man, a red herring.
There is no 'forced service', no 'indoctrination camps', no 'Obamafication'.
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vor8 months ago
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You don't seem to realize. We may comment but we are not going to respond to your insanity. Some of you seriously seem in need of professional help. It is available at low cost or free of charge in most areas. Mental illness does not have a party affiliation.
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Seriously, it isn't as if we haven't wondered about your sanity before but this time it appears that you are all suffering from mass hysteria. Nothing one would expect from people who have simply lost an election. You guys had years and years to show the American people that the policies you attempt to espouse had value. However the clear result was failure. I know that is difficult to accept. But like a lovelorn teenager rejected by a girl- GET OVER IT!
Get out in your neighborhoods and do something positive. Help a senior fix up their house, pick up some garbage, spend some time working in a soup kitchen. These are a few of the things this awful Democrat does. Above all have some faith in your fellow man.
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djn3nunez38 months, 1 week ago
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Brownshirts! Oh my! I don't think so......sounds like the losers want build castles in the sky. Where is the part of the bill that gives the new "Brown Shirts" there weapons?
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Then there's reality.....
Many of the early members were from the Freikorps (Freecorps, illegal right-wing military units formed following the First World War to combat the communist uprisings and protect the German borders), in particular from Brigade Ehrhardt but also from other units, however there are some disagreement on whether the SA should be regarded as a direct descendant of the Freikorps or not. There is no doubt however, that many of the traits from the less disciplined Freikorps units could be found in the SA-men engaging the communists in street battles.
The Rollkommando was reformed into the Zeitfreiwilligen Feb 1920. The men of this unit wore the field grey uniforms of the Reichswehr, armed with weapons provided by Hauptmann Ernst Röhm (who would continue to play an important role in the development) and many of them seems to have served in a Reichswehr mortar company. Following the failure of the Kapp putsch Mar 1920 the use of field grey were discontinued and the unit was redesignated Ordnertruppe. -
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amazed8 months, 1 week ago
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I really wish I could find some analysis of this bill that wasn't written either by hysterics or syncophants.
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I have long advocated the idea that there should be a couple of years of mandatory service -- either directly out of high school or college.
Could be military, habitat, VISTA..like that.
I don't think we need to make up new organizations for it-- that does seem a little disturbing and the names being used sound a bit like newspeak.
On the other hand, if it's legit service and not indoctrination, and it would help with college loans or tuition -- I could be all over that.
But why is this being done so quietly?-
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Wolfie20078 months ago
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fsev418 months ago
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In other circumstances it may not appear as being done quietly but in the current cacaphony over AIG, bailouts, bonuses, budgets, stimulus, deficits etc the other, everyday business activities of Congress are lost in the din. From the vote numbers shown in the article it appears that your representatives don't seem to see the threat that the right wig radicals see in the bill. And it is, after all, only a re authorization of an existing law. More bogus fear and smear from the right.
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NoWayMan8 months ago
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amazed wrote: "I have long advocated the idea that there should be a couple of years of mandatory service -- either directly out of high school or college. Could be military, habitat, VISTA..like that."
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thats what this bill is about. but NOT in a mandatory capacity. only volunteer. it will provide funds to expand existing programs like AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps.
when it comes to anything being mandatory, there will be a govt commission set up to discuss the idea of a mandatory service program, much like you described, and much like they have in many european countries, where the individual gets to choose in what cpacity he or she will serve.
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ForrestPhelps8 months ago
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To: amazed
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Go to:
http://www.nationalservice.gov/about/role_impact/h...
For some perspective.
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simonsez8 months ago
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Will13138 months ago
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none.. . none of you seemed concerned when Bush started to tighten the screws on our freedoms..
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responses were mostly
well if you aren't doing anything wrong.. you should mind a little snooping..
little different now with a LIBERAL IN CONTROL.. which I warned about then..
you guys ALLOWED AND DEFENDED the beginning of the intrusion of government into your/our lives.. and called anyone questioning that a traitor..
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willottica8 months ago
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This bill doesn't seek control, it seeks to fund independant organizations that encourage volunteerism. But don't take my word for it. Read the thing! (And if I'm wrong, then you'll be able to point out the parts of the bill that show it.)
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NoWayMan8 months ago
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"The mistrust of government has never been larger than today, at least in my lifetime."
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um, the mistrust under Bush was MUCH higher.
Obama's approval rating is still in the 60s. which indicates the oppostie of mistrust from the American people.
wake up.
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coolslow8 months ago
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I served two years in the Peace Corps in Africa from 1974-76. It was tough, but great. I benefited personally from it and it set me on a career path doing international work. I still have contact with people I worked with, so I know some benefited from my work as well. I recommend voluntary service for both personal growth and betterment of society. Peace Corps was, however, voluntary, (and no uniforms or political indoctrination was required. In fact, the whole experience was de-policitized, involvement in both US and host-country politics was discouraged.
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I'm amazed of the support here for mandatory service and even mandatory military service. -
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NoWayMan8 months ago
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relax everyone. pc25 put this crap up yesterday. it didn't fly then. it doesn't fly now.
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this bill is NOT about mandatory service for anything, just about expanding existing programs like AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps. it has nothing to do with any kind of military training or giving any particluar group any kind of police powers.
in fact, when it comes to anything being mandatory, the only thing this bill has in that department will be a govt commission that will be merely looking at the idea of some kind of mandatory service program for American youths similar to what they have in many european countries, where 19 and 20 year olds serve for a year and get to choose in what capacity they will be serving. which aint a bad idea. it'll help young people pay for college and they will get to live in another part of the country while they're serving their country.
but all this crap about nazis is just pc25 fear and paranoia.
if you're afraid of this bill, you're probably afraid of the girl scouts, another national service program that has (gasp!) uniforms. -
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Klarissa8 months ago
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Have any of you actually looked up the groups who would be running these camps?
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Right, you haven't.
Therefore you are supporting womething about which you know nothing. Just like The house, senate and president signed a bill they had never read.
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ForrestPhelps8 months ago
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To: Klarissa
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I looked it up. Here it is.
http://www.nationalservice.gov/about/role_impact/h...
Where is the ACORN reference?
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Dionys8 months ago
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The thing that makes me laugh the most is that on one thread you have those jackasses PC25, Red(Rocket)J, Doggie2007 and KlarissiatheKlarvoiant calling Obama "the Messiah" while on other threads they call him Hitler and other threads, Marx.
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Schitzophrenia abounds. -
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Klarissa8 months ago
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The real thing, the highest form of megalomania, is the person who absolutely believes he is chosen by fate, or God, or sheer force of energy to be better, stronger, chosen, for the good of the lesser masses.
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a historical term for behavior characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, genius, or omnipotence . . . or preoccupation with one's own estimation of having and/or obtaining, grandiosity and extravagance (especially in the form of great fame and popularity, material wealth, social influence or political power, or more than one or even all of the aforesaid)-
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Dionys8 months ago
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"The real thing, the highest form of megalomania, is the person who absolutely believes he is chosen by fate, or God, or sheer force of energy to be better, stronger, chosen, for the good of the lesser masses."
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Like Bush who, apparently, talked to God when he was in office or Palin who told people that the Iraq war was a task from God?
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