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Posted By PalestinianTruth 9 months ago in NewsIsraeli soldiers, just back from Gaza Recent reports of atrocities committed by Israeli soldiers in the course of the intervention in Gaza have described the incitement of conscripts and reservists by military rabbis who characterized the battle as a holy war for the expulsion of non-Jews from Jewish land. The secular Israeli academic Dany Zamir, who first brought the testimony of shocked Israeli soldiers to light, has been quoted as if the influence of such extremist clerical teachings was something new. This is not the case.
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antibrainwasher9 months ago
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And todays news:
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14 million jews.
1.5 billion arabs.
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Who gives a f.... F... em all, to the last man woman and child, these inbred tribes of hairless baboons with their invisible superstitions in the form of an invisible god on their side.
Only way Israel will exist for the next 50 y7ears is through genocide, Israel is 20% arabs with an average birthrate of 7 per couple, jews are less than one. game over, here comes the genocide.
Tribalism = religion = tribalism = religion. What kind of subhuman pigs live in a refugee camp with no food, running water or work, and have 11 children? Kiss civilization good bye. -
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hyperbola9 months ago
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One should remember that zionism is a totalitarian ideology (like nazism or stalinism) in which the individual is defined by belonging to a "jewish nation" rather than by his individuality as a human being (as in the ideals of American democracy). When this totalitarianism is coupled with religious extremism, it represents a model which is unacceptable in the modern world.
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Ethnic cleansing / genocide by jewish extremists in Palestine is, of course, nothing new. Here is an israeli account.
Mamilla Pool
http://www.israelshamir.net/English/mamilla.htm
... By 614 Palestine was a part of the Roman successor state, the Byzantine Empire. It was a prosperous, predominantly Christian land of well-developed agriculture, of harnessed water systems and carefully laid terraces. Pilgrims came in flocks to the Holy places. The Constantine-built edifices of the Ascension on the Mount of Olives and of the Holy Sepulchre were among the man-made wonders of the world. The Judean wilderness was enlivened by eighty monasteries, where precious manuscripts were collected and prayers offered. The Fathers of the church, St Jerome of Bethlehem and Origen and Eusebius of Caesarea, were still a living memory. One of the best Palestinian writers, on a par with the Minor Prophets, blessed John Moschos, just completed his Spiritual Meadow.
There was also a small, wealthy Jewish community living in their midst, mainly in Tiberias on the shores of the Sea of Galilee. Their scholars had just completed their version of the Talmud, the codification of their faith, Rabbinic Judaism; but for instruction they deferred to the prevailing Jewish community in Persian Babylonia....
...In 614 local Palestinian Jews allied with their Babylonian co-religionists and assisted the Persians in their conquest of the Holy Land. 26,000 Jews participated in the onslaught. In the aftermath of the Persian victory, the Jews perpetrated a massive holocaust of the Gentiles of Palestine. They burned the churches and the monasteries, killed monks and priests, burned books. The beautiful basilica of Fishes and Loaves in Tabgha, the Ascension on the Mount of Olives, St Stephen opposite Damascus Gate and the Hagia Sion on Mt Zion are just at the top of the list of perished edifices. Indeed, very few churches survived the onslaught. The Great Laura of St Sabas, tucked away in the bottomless Ravine of Fire (Wadi an-Nar) was saved by its remote location and steep crags. The Church of the Nativity miraculously survived: when Jews commanded its destruction, the Persians balked...-
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hyperbola9 months ago
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This devastation was not the worst crime. When Jerusalem surrendered to the Persians, thousands of local Christians became prisoners of war and were herded to the Mamilla Pool area. The Israeli archaeologist Ronny Reich writes:
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They were probably sold to the highest bidder. According to some sources, the Christian captives at Mamilla Pond were bought by Jews and were then slain on the spot.
The Oxford Professor Henry Hart Milman's History of the Jews describes it in stronger terms:
It had come at length, the long-expected hour of triumph and vengeance; and the Jews did not neglect the opportunity. They washed away the profanation of the holy city in Christian blood. The Persians are said to have sold the miserable captives for money. The vengeance of the Jews was stronger than their avarice; not only did they not scruple to sacrifice their treasures in the purchase of these devoted bondsmen, they put to death all they had purchased at a lavish price. It was a rumour of the time that 90,000 perished....
...In plain prose, the Jews ransomed the Christians from the hands of the Persian soldiers for good money to slaughter them at Mamilla Pool, ‘and it ran with blood’. Jews massacred between 60,000 and 90,000 Palestinian Christians in Jerusalem alone, almost 1.5 million in today’s values (the total earth’s population was according to the Encyclopaedia Britannica about 300 million, twenty times smaller than today). A few days later, the Persian military understood the magnitude of the massacre and stopped the Jews....
...The holocaust of the Christian Palestinians in year 614 is well documented and you will find it described in older books. It has been censored out of modern guides and history books. Elliott Horowitz described, in his brilliant expose of the Jewish apologia[ii] how almost all Jewish historians suppressed the facts and re-wrote history. The cover-up continues even now...
..The tragic events of 614 should be returned into historical narrative, for it will help the Jews to heal their paranoid delusion. Without this knowledge one cannot understand the provisions of the treaty between the Jerusalemites and Caliph Omar ibn Khattab, concluded in year 638. In the Sulh al Quds, as this treaty of capitulation is called, Patriarch Sofronius demanded, and the powerful Arab ruler concurred to protect the people of Jerusalem from the ferocity of the Jews.
The genocide of the AD 614 was the most horrible, but not the only, genocide wreaked by Jews in those troubled years....-
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hyperbola9 months ago
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.... Modern Jews do not have to feel guilty for the misdeeds of Jews long gone. No son is responsible for the sins of his father. Israel could have turned this mass grave with its Byzantine chapel and mosaics into a small and poignant memorial reminding its citizens of a horrible page in the history of the land and of the dangers of genocidal supremacy. Instead, the Israeli authorities preferred to demolish the tomb and create an underground parking-lot in its place. That did not cause a murmur.
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The guardians of the Jewish conscience, Amos Oz and others, have objected to the destruction of ancient remains. No, not of the tomb at Mamilla. They ran a petition against the keepers of the Haram a-Sharif mosque complex for digging a ten-inch trench to lay a new pipe. It did not matter to them that in an op-ed in Haaretz, the leading Israeli archaeologist denied any relevance of the mosque-works to science. They still described it as ‘a barbaric act of Muslims aimed at the obliteration of the Jewish heritage of Jerusalem’....
Censored history creates a distorted picture of reality. Recognition of the past is a necessary step on the way to sanity. The Germans and the Japanese have recognized the crimes of their fathers, have came to grips with their moral failings and have emerged as humbler, less boastful folks, akin to the rest of human race. We Jews have so far failed to exorcise the haughty spirit of the Chosen-ness, and find ourselves in a dire predicament. That is why the idea of supremacy is still with us, still calling for genocide....
The Haaretz published an ad on its front page[vi], a fatwa, signed by a group of Rabbis. The Rabbis proclaimed the theological identification of Ishmael (the Arabs) with the Amalek. ‘Amalek’ is mentioned in the Bible as the name of a tribe that caused trouble for the Children of Israel. In this story the God of Israel commands His people to exterminate the Amalek tribe completely, including its livestock.... In plain English, the Rabbis’ fatwa means: our religious duty is to kill all Arabs, including women and babies and their livestock to the last cat. The liberal Haaretz, whose editor and owner are sufficiently versed to understand the fatwa, did not hesitate to place the ad. ..
It would be unfair to single out Haaretz. Another prominent Jewish newspaper, The Washington Post, published an equally passionate call to genocide by Charles Krauthammer[viii]. ..... Krauthammer wants to repeat this feat in Palestine. ‘It’ is already cut off, divided by the Israeli army into seventy pieces. Now it is ready for the great kill. ‘Kill it!’ he calls with great passion. He must be worried that the Persians will again stop the bloodbath before the Mamilla Pool fills up. His worries are our hopes.
http://www.israelshamir.net/English/mamilla.htm-
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Edmar149 months ago
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Does anybody notice that this person just rants and raves, makes up her own history and promotes so much hate that you can't help but to hate her back. Don't take anything that she says with too much interest however, Hyperbola has been known on more than one occasion to twist history to her liking- such as "the Partition plan was never passed by the UN". Although the UN vote for partition is public record and historically well documented, this is just more of Hyperbola's History 101. Much of it ranks (and I mean rank) up with "the holocaust never happened" and Zionists killed 7 million Muslims and Christians. The latter is the entire population of Lebanon, Jordan and the West Bank and Gaza, so according to Hyperbola, there are no Palestinians, Lebanese or Jordanians left. You can't but help but laugh at this gal's chutzpa. However, if you want a real laugh, read her bio. Not only does she write her own history, she walks on water as well.
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hyperbola9 months ago
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You are lying to us again Edmar. The UN Security Council rejected the partition plan and sent it back to the General Assembly,thereby vitiating it. At the time the zionists started their massive campaign of terrorism and ethnic cleansing in 1948, the UN (with US approval) was working on establishing a single country in all of Palestine with equal rights for all independent of race or religion. The lies you have to tell to try to excuse continuous zionist crimes against humanity speak for themselves.
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Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews
.... According to first and still existing draft of history, Israel was given its birth certificate and thus legitimacy by the UN Partition Resolution of 29 November 1947. This is nonsense.
In the first place the UN without the consent of the majority of the people of Palestine did not have the right to decide to partition Palestine or assign any part of its territory to a minority of alien immigrants in order for them to establish a state of their own.
Despite that, by the narrowest of margins, and only after a rigged vote, the UN General Assembly did pass a resolution to partition Palestine and create two states, one Arab, one Jewish, with Jerusalem not part of either. But the General Assembly resolution was only a proposal – meaning that it could have no effect, would not become policy, unless approved by the Security Council.
The truth is that the General Assembly’s partition proposal never went to the Security Council for consideration. Why not? Because the US knew that, if approved, it could only be implemented by force; and President Truman was not prepared to use force to partition Palestine.
So the partition plan was vitiated, became invalid, and the question of what the hell to do about Palestine (after Britain had made a mess of it and walked away) was taken back to the General Assembly for more discussion. The option favoured and proposed by the US was temporary UN Trusteeship. It was while the General Assembly was debating what do that Israel unilaterally declared itself to be in existence – actually in defiance of the will of the organised international community, including the Truman administration.
The truth of the time was that the Zionist state, which came into being mainly as a consequence of Zionism terrorism and ethnic cleansing, had no right to exist and, more to the point, could have no right to exist unless ….. Unless it was recognised and legitimized by those who were dispossessed of their land and their rights during the creation of the Zionist state. In international law only the Palestinians could give Israel the legitimacy it craved. And that legitimacy was the only thing the Zionists could not take from the Palestinians by force. ...
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hyperbola9 months ago
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Poor Edmar, still trying to kill messengers to cover up massive zionist crimes against humanity. Enough of your lies already.
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Forced Migration Review Journal
Department of International Development
University of Oxford
Palestinian displacement: a case apart?
This issue of FMR was planned long before the humanitarian crisis which has displaced 20% of the Lebanese population. Articles look beyond the current events to what most international observers regard as the root causes of conflict and displacement in the Middle East. The protracted nature of the displacement, the complexity of the means used to dispossess Palestinians and the apparent double standards of the international community do indeed make this a case apart.
From high points in the West Bank it is possible to see across Israel/Palestine – from the Dead Sea to the Mediterranean. The articles in this issue discuss how displacement from this tiny sliver of land has had and continues to have far-reaching global consequences.
The great majority of the seven million Palestinian refugees still live within 100km of the borders of Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip where their homes of origin are located. They are refugees because Israel – committed to a permanent Jewish majority and granting citizenship to any member of the Jewish diaspora – denies Palestinians their basic human right to return to their homes of origin. Palestinians are the world’s largest refugee population, yet...
http://www.fmreview.org/FMRpdfs/FMR26/FMR26full.pd...
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Dionys9 months ago
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Let's be pretty clear and fair to the Israeli Army. The vast majority of them are fine young people with only a few extremists scattered througout. They're caught in a very tough position, often very strongly disagreeing with the actions they're asked to perform, but little ability to do anything but.
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They're certainly filled with less religious extremists than the US military.-
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hyperbola9 months ago
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Do you have some figures to back up your statement? Frankly it borders on saying the Waffen SS was filled with fine young people.
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Is Israel's Army Waging a Jewish Jihad?
Religious extremists rising through the ranks
Extremist rabbis and their followers, bent on waging holy war against the Palestinians, are taking over the Israeli army by stealth, according to critics.
In a process one military historian has termed the rapid "theologization" of the Israeli army, there are now entire units of religious combat soldiers, many of them based in West Bank settlements. They answer to hardline rabbis who call for the establishment of a Greater Israel that includes the occupied Palestinian territories.
Their influence in shaping the army's goals and methods is starting to be felt, say observers, as more and more graduates from officer courses are also Dr.awn from Israel's religious extremist population.
"We have reached the point where a critical mass of religious soldiers is trying to negotiate with the army about how and for what purpose military force is employed on the battlefield," said Yigal Levy, a political sociologist at the Open University who has written several books on the Israeli army. ....
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hyperbola9 months ago
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And, of course, the army does little to protect christian and moslem citizens of Israel from attacks by jewish extremists.
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Jewish Extremists Attempt Pogrom against Arabs in Akka
Hundreds of religious Jewish extremists and hooligans laid siege to and assaulted an Arab family home in downtown Akka Wednesday night, triggering widespread riots in the mixed Arab-Jewish coastal city in northern Palestine/Israel. The Jews accused the Arab family of “violating the sanctity of Yom Kippur” by way of driving their car. Eyewitnesses and police sources reported that dozens of vehicles and businesses were damaged after police forces violently repressed hundreds of local Arab youths who had attempted to free the besieged Arab family. Arab sources in Akka said Jewish hooligans attacked “and may have tried to lynch” the Ahmed Sha’aban family which lives in the predominantly Jewish neighborhood of Porla in the eastern suburbs of the city.
”The extremists, hundreds of them wanted to make sure that we, Muslims, observe the Yom Kippur and not conduct our life as usual. Next time, they will demand that we convert to Judaism, or leave,” said Jamal Adham, who was attacked and slightly injured by the extremists. According to Ahmed Odeh, a member of the Akka municipal council, the riots and the subsequent acts sabotage were triggered by provocative efforts by Jewish fanatics to impose a total curfew on the town’s non-Jewish inhabitants. Odeh said he had received assurances from the police that the city would remain open and that non-Jews would be allowed to move freely during the Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) holiday. Odeh added that he was later surprised to find out that all town’s entrances and exits were tightly closed, apparently by a private security firm answerable to the town’s municipal council. “Even access to the Old town, where most of the Arabs live, was blocked.”.....
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hyperbola9 months ago
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Pogrom in Acre
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"Riots in Acre"-screamed the Israeli dailies today. They should have written instead "Pogrom in Acre," for what occurred last Wednesday was exactly a pogrom, of the kind Jews have suffered in the Tsarist Empire: a fanatic mob attacking a minority under the pretext of violating the holiness of a religious feast, with the passive complicity of the state police....
http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/php/art.p...-
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Dionys9 months ago
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Never said there weren't extremists (pretty much everywhere), but the vast majority of the Israeli military I've encountered were good people being ordered to do awful things, and quite a few (though certainly not enough) refused to do those things when they felt they violated international law or their ethics as based in Judaism.
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As with the Palestinians, the extremist portion of the Israeli military is small, but destructive.
Your painting all Israelis as horrible is as ridiculous and inaccurate as painting all Gazans as terrorists (as the pro-Israeli-no-matter-what-horrors-they-commit crowd does).-
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hyperbola9 months ago
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When 90+% of the Israeli population supports these kinds of crimes against humanity, there aren't many of the "good folks" left. The vast majority of Israelis now play exactly the same role as "good Germans" in Nazi Germany.
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When Israel expelled Palestinians: What if it was San Diego and Tijuana instead?
http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/01/17/when-isr...
In the wake of Israel's invasion of Gaza, Israel's Defense Minister Ehud Barak made this analogy: "Think about what would happen if for seven years rockets had been fired at San Diego, California from Tijuana, Mexico."
Think about what would happen if San Diego expelled most of its Hispanic, African American, Asian American, and Native American population, about 48 percent of the total, and forcibly relocated them to Tijuana? Not just immigrants, but even those who have lived in this country for many generations. Not just the unemployed or the criminals or the America haters, but the school teachers, the small business owners, the soldiers, even the baseball players.
What if we established government and faith-based agencies to help move white people into their former homes? And what if we razed hundreds of their homes in rural areas and, with the aid of charitable donations from people in the United States and abroad, planted forests on their former towns, creating nature preserves for whites to enjoy? Sounds pretty awful, huh? I may be called anti-Semitic for speaking this truth. Well, I'm Jewish and the scenario above is what many prominent Israeli scholars say happened when Israel expelled Palestinians from southern Israel and forced them into Gaza. But this analogy is just getting started.
What if the United Nations kept San Diego's discarded minorities in crowded, festering camps in Tijuana for 19 years? Then, the United States invaded Mexico, occupied Tijuana and began to build large housing developments in Tijuana where only whites could live.
And what if the United States built a network of highways connecting American citizens of Tijuana to the United States? And checkpoints, not just between Mexico and the United States but also around every neighborhood of Tijuana? What if we required every Tijuana resident, refugee or native, to show an ID card to the U.S. military on demand? What if thousands of Tijuana residents lost their homes, their jobs, their businesses, their children, their sense of self worth to this occupation? Would you be surprised to hear of a protest movement in Tijuana that sometimes became violent and hateful? Okay, now for the unbelievable part.
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