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Dionys9 months, 1 week ago
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Let's be pretty clear and fair to the Israeli Army. The vast majority of them are fine young people with only a few extremists scattered througout. They're caught in a very tough position, often very strongly disagreeing with the actions they're asked to perform, but little ability to do anything but.
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They're certainly filled with less religious extremists than the US military.-
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hyperbola9 months, 1 week ago
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Do you have some figures to back up your statement? Frankly it borders on saying the Waffen SS was filled with fine young people.
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Is Israel's Army Waging a Jewish Jihad?
Religious extremists rising through the ranks
Extremist rabbis and their followers, bent on waging holy war against the Palestinians, are taking over the Israeli army by stealth, according to critics.
In a process one military historian has termed the rapid "theologization" of the Israeli army, there are now entire units of religious combat soldiers, many of them based in West Bank settlements. They answer to hardline rabbis who call for the establishment of a Greater Israel that includes the occupied Palestinian territories.
Their influence in shaping the army's goals and methods is starting to be felt, say observers, as more and more graduates from officer courses are also Dr.awn from Israel's religious extremist population.
"We have reached the point where a critical mass of religious soldiers is trying to negotiate with the army about how and for what purpose military force is employed on the battlefield," said Yigal Levy, a political sociologist at the Open University who has written several books on the Israeli army. ....
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hyperbola9 months, 1 week ago
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And, of course, the army does little to protect christian and moslem citizens of Israel from attacks by jewish extremists.
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Jewish Extremists Attempt Pogrom against Arabs in Akka
Hundreds of religious Jewish extremists and hooligans laid siege to and assaulted an Arab family home in downtown Akka Wednesday night, triggering widespread riots in the mixed Arab-Jewish coastal city in northern Palestine/Israel. The Jews accused the Arab family of “violating the sanctity of Yom Kippur” by way of driving their car. Eyewitnesses and police sources reported that dozens of vehicles and businesses were damaged after police forces violently repressed hundreds of local Arab youths who had attempted to free the besieged Arab family. Arab sources in Akka said Jewish hooligans attacked “and may have tried to lynch” the Ahmed Sha’aban family which lives in the predominantly Jewish neighborhood of Porla in the eastern suburbs of the city.
”The extremists, hundreds of them wanted to make sure that we, Muslims, observe the Yom Kippur and not conduct our life as usual. Next time, they will demand that we convert to Judaism, or leave,” said Jamal Adham, who was attacked and slightly injured by the extremists. According to Ahmed Odeh, a member of the Akka municipal council, the riots and the subsequent acts sabotage were triggered by provocative efforts by Jewish fanatics to impose a total curfew on the town’s non-Jewish inhabitants. Odeh said he had received assurances from the police that the city would remain open and that non-Jews would be allowed to move freely during the Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) holiday. Odeh added that he was later surprised to find out that all town’s entrances and exits were tightly closed, apparently by a private security firm answerable to the town’s municipal council. “Even access to the Old town, where most of the Arabs live, was blocked.”.....
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hyperbola9 months, 1 week ago
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Pogrom in Acre
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"Riots in Acre"-screamed the Israeli dailies today. They should have written instead "Pogrom in Acre," for what occurred last Wednesday was exactly a pogrom, of the kind Jews have suffered in the Tsarist Empire: a fanatic mob attacking a minority under the pretext of violating the holiness of a religious feast, with the passive complicity of the state police....
http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/php/art.p...-
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Dionys9 months, 1 week ago
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Never said there weren't extremists (pretty much everywhere), but the vast majority of the Israeli military I've encountered were good people being ordered to do awful things, and quite a few (though certainly not enough) refused to do those things when they felt they violated international law or their ethics as based in Judaism.
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As with the Palestinians, the extremist portion of the Israeli military is small, but destructive.
Your painting all Israelis as horrible is as ridiculous and inaccurate as painting all Gazans as terrorists (as the pro-Israeli-no-matter-what-horrors-they-commit crowd does).-
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hyperbola9 months, 1 week ago
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When 90+% of the Israeli population supports these kinds of crimes against humanity, there aren't many of the "good folks" left. The vast majority of Israelis now play exactly the same role as "good Germans" in Nazi Germany.
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When Israel expelled Palestinians: What if it was San Diego and Tijuana instead?
http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/01/17/when-isr...
In the wake of Israel's invasion of Gaza, Israel's Defense Minister Ehud Barak made this analogy: "Think about what would happen if for seven years rockets had been fired at San Diego, California from Tijuana, Mexico."
Think about what would happen if San Diego expelled most of its Hispanic, African American, Asian American, and Native American population, about 48 percent of the total, and forcibly relocated them to Tijuana? Not just immigrants, but even those who have lived in this country for many generations. Not just the unemployed or the criminals or the America haters, but the school teachers, the small business owners, the soldiers, even the baseball players.
What if we established government and faith-based agencies to help move white people into their former homes? And what if we razed hundreds of their homes in rural areas and, with the aid of charitable donations from people in the United States and abroad, planted forests on their former towns, creating nature preserves for whites to enjoy? Sounds pretty awful, huh? I may be called anti-Semitic for speaking this truth. Well, I'm Jewish and the scenario above is what many prominent Israeli scholars say happened when Israel expelled Palestinians from southern Israel and forced them into Gaza. But this analogy is just getting started.
What if the United Nations kept San Diego's discarded minorities in crowded, festering camps in Tijuana for 19 years? Then, the United States invaded Mexico, occupied Tijuana and began to build large housing developments in Tijuana where only whites could live.
And what if the United States built a network of highways connecting American citizens of Tijuana to the United States? And checkpoints, not just between Mexico and the United States but also around every neighborhood of Tijuana? What if we required every Tijuana resident, refugee or native, to show an ID card to the U.S. military on demand? What if thousands of Tijuana residents lost their homes, their jobs, their businesses, their children, their sense of self worth to this occupation? Would you be surprised to hear of a protest movement in Tijuana that sometimes became violent and hateful? Okay, now for the unbelievable part.
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