'Mandatory youth service' bill advances »
Posted By RedRiverJ 7 months, 2 weeks ago in News
Congress appears ready to pass an Obama administration plan that could create mandatory public service requirements for all American youth, fulfilling a campaign promise.
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RedRiverJ7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Are you ready for change?
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Here it is!
We are all about to live the principles articulated by Saul Alinsky, whose 1971 book "Rules for Radicals" articulated a socialist strategy for gaining political power to redistribute wealth from the "haves" to the "have-nots."
Welcome to the have-nots!-
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Dionys7 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Congress appears ready to pass an Obama administration plan that could create mandatory public service requirements for all American youth, fulfilling a campaign promise."
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Israel has manditory military service, yet you support them no matter what illegal actions they take.
Seems kind of.. oh.. I don't know.. hypocritical.
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RedRiverJ7 months, 2 weeks ago
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FTA-Moreover, an amendment to the bill introduced by Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., one of the bill's 37 co-sponsors in the House, appears to severely restrict the First Amendment by prohibiting the youth participating in the program from attempting to influence legislation, organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts or strikes.
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FTA-It is uncertain whether restrictions will survive into the final legislation that would prohibit GIVE Act participants from being recruited under the program to work in ACORN, a radical community organizing group facing criminal charges in several states for voter fraud.
FTA-The problem is that taxpayer funds under the GIVE Act could end up getting paid to volunteers in organizations that are doing political advocacy activity,"-
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Dionys7 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Moreover, an amendment to the bill introduced by Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., one of the bill's 37 co-sponsors in the House, appears to severely restrict the First Amendment by prohibiting the youth participating in the program from attempting to influence legislation, organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts or strikes."
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I thought you were worried that they WERE going to be a political influence. Now you're worried they won't?
"The problem is that taxpayer funds under the GIVE Act could end up getting paid to volunteers in organizations that are doing political advocacy activity,"
Lie.
"It is uncertain whether restrictions will survive into the final legislation that would prohibit GIVE Act participants from being recruited under the program to work in ACORN, a radical community organizing group facing criminal charges in several states for voter fraud."
More of the same GOP lies.
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Dionys7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Yes. God forbid Americans should be asked to work to make their country a better place and get paid for the experience, rather than be able to go out and score a below-living-wage job at McDonalds and get stuck in food service the rest of their lives.
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Albmore7 months, 2 weeks ago
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America WAKE UP! Cant anyone else see whats going on here? Its no wonder they are making so much noise about the bonuses and Rush. They dont want you to see these socialist programs they are pushing through with little notice. Now they are going for OUR children. Has anyone else had enough yet?
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Bkumm7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Yet another lying headline. I've read the relevant sections of both HR1388 and the U.S. Code and I find nothing, absolutely nothing that could be described as "mandatory".
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Mandatory, for those impaired by long listening to Rush Limbaugh and Fox News is:
"containing or constituting a command"
There is nothing in this bill that mandates that anyone has to be a part of a, ahem, volunteer organization. So there you have it.-
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tadair9197 months, 2 weeks ago
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denail. watch this video.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0B7dOQwKm0
i got more, if you want them.
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tadair9197 months, 2 weeks ago
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Pecossam7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Bkumm,
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Did you not hear Obama's Chief of Staff use the word "required" when asked if the G.I.V.E. Act would be mandatory? Check your dictionary and you will see that "required" and "mandatory" are synonymous!
mandatory: 1. Required or commanded by authority; obligatory
What more do you need to open your eyes to what is going on here? You may scoff at our concerns now, but I wonder what you and those closest to you will think and do when "Obama's Army" is loose on our streets.
THIS IS HOW LIBERTY DIES!!!
Please read your history! Please ask yourself the REAL reason Obama "needs" this force " ...just as strong, just as powerful, just as well funded." as our military. Have you analyzed what "...just as strong.." and "...just as powerful..." mean? We're not talking BB guns here. These are Obama's own words:
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."
"The price of liberty is eternal vigilance."...Thomas Jefferson
PLEASE WAKE UP! For America's sake, yours, and those you love. When our freedoms are eroded or GONE, how will we get them back, if ever?! -
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Bkumm7 months, 2 weeks ago
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tadair9197 months, 2 weeks ago
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if propeller ever decided to start working, i was trying to agree with you.
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http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.138... has the original text mandating service whereas the bill that past eliminated the text. -
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tadair9197 months, 2 weeks ago
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please read this article to catch up to speed on what happened:
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Don't count out 'mandatory' service yet
Provisions dropped from one bill, but appear in another
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view=93...
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PatrioticAmerican7 months, 2 weeks ago
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You can tell on these threads who wants to work for a living and those that want others to work for THEIR living, those that applaud Obamas Socialist Bills and "spreading the wealth" ideas are those that want others to do the work and they make the profit and those that don't want socialism are the ones that are fighting against Obama. I have worked since i was 13 because I WANTED to no one made me , i like the idea of a hard days work not sitting on My Azz and making other support me. and those "below living"wage jobs that are referred to are there to help ppl make and start a job history which you need to get the higher paying jobs or do you believe that any should be able to get a executives wage and job with no experience ??? Oh wait you do because you voted for Obama
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RedRiverJ7 months, 2 weeks ago
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amen PatrioticAmerican. Dionys doesn't get it. He can't see past his adoration for Heir Obama and his hatred of Israel.
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He doesn't get working for what you have, earning your own way, being self sufficent, saving for a retirement. All he seems to get is socialism.
Dionys We do serve, I do, but it's of my chosing, I give generously, of my chosing, not at the demand of the government except on April 15th. -
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Goppy7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Ya got dat right PattyAmi.
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Them libbies is just mostly folks who sit round on street korners begging fer dimes n quaters.
Non o them no gud Democrates believes in work.
I work s hard ... worked hard all my life. Course - I been workin a lots harder over the past 20 years. ON accounta jobs ... they been dryin up.
But am I gointa support sumbudy like Obama ... even if he says hesa workin for me?
I says NO FÚÇKIN WAY!
I LIKE the way our Rebukicans hand out Welfare to them Rich Folk!
We gots Rich folk right here in River City ... And there is sometimes when Mr Rich asks me to cot his grass.
And you know whut? Mr Rich gives me an extra TEN DOLLER when I do!
Thats whuts knowed as TRIKCLE DOWN ecomonics fer all you lazy ignerant libbie socialists.
Givn money to the Rich Folk is how this country got to wher it is today and aint no libbie commie socialist fascist totalitarianistic supercalifracidosious oBama gointa mess that up.
After all Rich folk is whut make this naiton grate!
Thats why most of em dont work - just live on their inheritance - like my Mr Rich.
You know - I hear tell - 75% of all rich folk got that money from they familiy dyin!
Well - since that Maddoffa fella - I think thats down to 74%.
So you libbie socialist commie luving kumbaya singin long hair lovin swinger dudes and dudettes better keep your hands off my money!
Amen ta Rush.
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Ciera-Marie7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Will you all be honest. Your oposition has nothing to do with it being volunteer or the ages.
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What you're all against is that the President wants to increase the amount of money they make, increase their education awards (can pay back part of their student loans.), as well as what they currently get.
Just be honest. And AGAIN have any of you who are against it talked to the volunteers or the sites to see the good that is being done?
I can tell you right now ND AmeriCorps members and Conservation Corps members have been helping sandbag. Members in SD, ID, Iowa and MN as well as other states will be there helping clean up after the flood as well. But you all don't want to talk about that either. -
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david_nwpa7 months, 2 weeks ago
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I fail to see what the problem is, even if the service were mandatory, which it is NOT. The bill as written and the Title I code to which it applies mentions nothing, NOT one IOTA about this being a compulsory service.
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What if this were some sort of civil service that were mandatory? It would mean that teenage crime might actually drop in inner cities because teens and young adults would be empowered to make their communities a better place to live. Most European countries already demand civil or military service between the ages of 18 and 21. Consider Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. All of these countries have compulsory service for teens. Much of what they learn through the volunteer programs translates into job skills which they can use later in their careers.
We are investing in our nation's future. What is the problem that so many Conservatives have with wanting to improve our nation rather than just saying no to every proposal put forth by the Dems?-
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tadair9197 months, 2 weeks ago
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do you think there's a difference between compulsory and mandatory?
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do you suppose that if the cotton picked a few hundred years ago went towards the bettering of society (as opposed to just private land-owners and private business), then it would be justified?
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CRYMTYPHON7 months, 2 weeks ago
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HR 1388 is a harmless bill to vaguely encourage volunteering
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It isn't about anything mandatory, isn't about anything
manditory, and even in point of fact has nothing to do with
anything mandatory.
The neo-con people quacking in panic above are acting in possession of a demon of deceit and fear.
Let us all take sober warning of their sad fate and strive to avoid it by encouraging an ambition to be honest.
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