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Posted By pc25 8 months, 3 weeks ago in News

Because, after all, nothing says “ special relationship” like a gadget you can buy in every mall in the western world. What’ d he get Prince Philip? An Xbox?

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    pc258 months, 3 weeks ago

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    FTA

    Seriously, none of this merits a firing or three in the protocol office?

    one can only imagine if he wasn't the one who was going to restore the luster to the American image abroad.........

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      mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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      I don't know which iPod he purchased but Apple releases new products here all the time before introducing them to the international community. Her fellow If that's the case here, the Queen's countrymen are probably green with envy right now.

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        lovemylibs8 months, 3 weeks ago

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        Yes - because with all that the Queen has, they covet her iPod the most.

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          mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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          "Yes - because with all that the Queen has, they covet her iPod the most."

          --Clearly she does covet it since it was she (and not Obama) who requested one in the first place. ;-P

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          hamy8 months, 3 weeks ago

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          Did you even mention her gift? She got him a framed picture of herself.

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          pc258 months, 3 weeks ago

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          http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/200...

          Barack Obama's gift for the Queen: an iPod, your Majesty

          perhaps just a tad bit of sarcasm from the Telegraph

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            pc258 months, 3 weeks ago

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            FTA

            There was widespread criticism in Britain and from Anglophiles in the US of Mr Obama's recent present to Mr Brown of a box set of classic American movies on DVDs that were not compatible with British DVD players.

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              nostalgia8 months, 3 weeks ago

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              Did you see the video of the meeting

              Prince Philip tried to guide Michelle to his right side but Michelle stepped in between the Prince and the Queen

              Also watch Obama shaking the Queen's hand - he used 2 hands on her hand - a "no no"

              http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/04/presiden...

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          pc258 months, 3 weeks ago

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          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVG1BNsi0ow

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            mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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            Update for clueless cons who are no doubt hoping they'll one day market a television which only gets FOX News:

            "The Politico reported that President Obama presented Queen Elizabeth II with "a personalized iPod," and noted criticism of the gift by an "etiquette expert," but did not mention that the White House reportedly said Queen Elizabeth asked for the iPod."

            "This evening, the president visited Buckingham Palace for a private audience with the queen and husband Prince Philip. Mr. Obama's gift for the queen? A video iPod with footage of her 2007 trip to Washington -- a gift that "officials say she requested."

            --Get that, cons?! She ASKED for the freaking iPod. Now STHU and get a life. Thanks.

            Politico cited criticism of Obama's iPod gift by "etiquette expert," but WH says queen requested it

            http://mediamatters.org/items/200904020002?f=s_sea...

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              lovemylibs8 months, 3 weeks ago

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              Your inane hatred makes me laugh. From your mediamatters link:

              "as was reported earlier that night on Fox News' Special Report, that according to the White House, the queen requested a video iPod because she did not yet have one of that type"

              Wipe that foam from your rabid mouth, mesodude.

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                mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                "Your inane hatred makes me laugh. From your mediamatters link:"

                LOL...This is coming from bitter, unstable cons running around like sick prostitutes crying about how you can't score 'cause the "socialists" are running the country now. You can't get any action because your stuff is stale, used up, worn out and diseased. GET SERIOUS before someone declares you legally braindead.

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                  lovemylibs8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                  You left a little there, on the corner of your mouth.

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            Klarissa8 months, 3 weeks ago

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            Inexperience in the real world, showing just what a clod he is.

            So much for change and Hope??

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              simonsez8 months, 3 weeks ago

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              He's used to Queen Latifa ... She'd throw the ipod out the window.

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                vor8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                Remember Klarissa you have little to no credibility after the election! You and your trolls are merely sore losers. Lashing back at Obama for the indiscretions visited on your beloved GW.

                In all of this you miss the fact that this IPod was loaded with images the Queen might really enjoy. How dare he give her something sentimental! And whoever bought her the other IPod she has is probably feeling pretty low now. I believe that was Charles. But of course the Queen will dismiss your nonsense. This was not an official visit, it was a visit at the request of the Queen. No matter what Obama presented her you would be tearing into the gift. It is just the sort of people you have become. Angry, pathetic losers. Sure there were Dems in '00 and '04 who behaved irrationally post election but this is mass hysteria. And the funny part is your side is throwing around rhetoric that sounds like it came from Sarah Palin's stump speeches. Didn't the American voter teach you anything? The one thing that really should not fly in the next election cycle is negativity. Keep it up!

                Was that a budget your party offered today or an April Fools Joke?

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                mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                ""Inexperience in the real world, showing just what a clod he is.

                So much for change and Hope??"

                ---This will probably sound like a weird concept but maybe we should wait to find out what the queen actually thinks of the gift before we decide Obama is a clod. ;-P

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                  MisterX8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                  I agree. The Queen might have some better adjectives and pronouns to describe him.

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                    mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                    "The Queen might have some better adjectives and pronouns to describe him."

                    Exactly...I mean, when the world economy is imploding before your eyes it's perfectly natural to obsess over trivial matters. Everyone knows this. ;-P

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                      MisterX8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                      The world is going to hell.

                      BHO is choosing basketball teams.
                      The Queen gets an iPod.
                      The media portrays the US population as outraged that a bank gave bonuses to their executives.
                      One or two elected officials get charged on corruption (the rest are either not caught or are protected somehow).

                      Yes, we are obsessing over trivial matters. The real matters are usually avoided or buried.

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                  MisterX8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                  I hope he didn't get it refurbished at a discount. What's next? A collection of Beatles CD's for the Prime Minister?

                  Wait, I know. Whatever he'll get for the president of China, it will probably come from China.

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                  nostalgia8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                  Under the direction of the Acting Chief of Protocol Gladys Boluda the office is responsible for activities including the planning, hosting, and officiating of ceremonial events for visiting chiefs of state and heads of government, as well as coordinating logistics for the visits; managing Blair House, the President's guesthouse; and overseeing all protocol matters for Presidential or Vice Presidential travel abroad, working alongside the White House.

                  http://www.state.gov/s/cpr/

                  Of course nothing says that the administration is consulting her on these matters
                  Maybe Obama is consulting one of the Chicago thugocracy he took to Washington with him

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                    mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                    "Of course nothing says that the administration is consulting her on these matters
                    Maybe Obama is consulting one of the Chicago thugocracy he took to Washington with him."

                    --Personally, I think Obama should have saved his money and just greeted the Queen with "Amigo, Amigo!" After that maybe he could've winked and leered at her repeatedly and then forced himself upon her with a surprise backrub. Queens usually like that sort of thing... And to round out his virtual gift, he could've pretended to look for WMD under tables and chairs at the palace. Meanwhile, Michelle could've just smiled gamely and nicknamed the Queen "whitey." ;-P

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                      MisterX8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                      Sounds like the plot to a good movie.

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                        lovemylibs8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                        mesodude - What did you think of Angela Merkel's response to President Obama's suggestion of a European stimulus?

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                          mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                          I think she barely won her election a couple of years ago, she's up for re-election this year and, unlike Bush in 2004, she's speaking like a politician who wants to hold on to her job.

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                            lovemylibs8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                            So, are you saying that to be re-elected she must appear to be less fiscally social than President Obama?

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                      Wolfie20078 months, 3 weeks ago

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                      I wish I hadn't watched the video. Embarrassing. One thing though, did you notice the Queen was carrying her purse on her arm. Do you think she said after the camera's were turned off, "We're really sorry but you caught us at a bad time as we have and emergency errand we have to attend to and we have to leave." Wouldn't that have been sweet? lol

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                        pc258 months, 3 weeks ago

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                        so much for restoring th image of America abroad

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                          mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                          "so much for restoring th image of America abroad"

                          --Exactly...By this time in Bush's administration he'd already been plotting to invade at least one country! What's taking Obama so long to start antagonizing the international community, spending wildly on the military and ignoring domestic needs?! He'll never get any respect if he keeps this goody two-shoes diplomacy crap up. Damn him! ;-P

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                          vor8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                          And stupidly inaccurate in fact. The Obama's came at the request of the Queen. This was not a state visit. Rush must have badly informed you today.

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                            k9kssr8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                            Wolfie.......toooooo funny.....lol.

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                              vor8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                              Wolfie the D.A.! As you might not be aware (since this article doesn't bother to mention such facts) this was not an official visit it was a visit made at the request of the Queen. She wanted meet America's charming young President and his lovely wife. You will learn (it may take awhile) that this sort of fact twisting should be left to the experts like Rush or O'Reilly. They are professionals, not the rank amateurs we see on Propeller from the Right. Keep your day job.

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                              mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                              "I wish I hadn't watched the video. Embarrassing."

                              --I know, right? And us crazy liberals actually had the gall to be ashamed and outraged that our former President tortured, spied on Quakers, and couldn't speak English properly. Talk about your misplaced priorities.... ;-P

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                                Wolfie20078 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                By the way, just how big are Michelle Obama's feet anyway?

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                                k9kssr8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                Wolfie,

                                The Queen has probably heard how Obama likes to give other people's money away, ya know redistribute the wealth, and that's why she wanted to keep a close eye on her purse.

                                And I just saw the video of the picture taking....she darn near knocked poor old Prince Phillip down!!!! How rude.

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                                  icono18 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                  the 0Bama's are truly cloddish yet funny..........
                                  hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                    hamy8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                    What?? After Bush who couldn't even speak his own language you are calling the Obamas clods? Wow. Your party politics is obviously more important that actual reality. Enjoy living in ignorance while everybody else tries to fix the mess you and your kind left us in.

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                                  Klarissa8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                  I heard from a republican, no less, that Obama was very gracious with Brown and the queen. That is a good sign that he is learning.

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                                    vor8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                    Some sources? Did you find this in the garbage? Come on, be honest!

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                                      icono18 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                      may be a reason for that. according to some sources around the financial world our 'financial system' may become subject to the IMF organization. if so America will have to play nice and be gracious with the rest of the world to keep borrowing all that money for all of those crazy stimulus bills that congress keeps pumping out when ever the tingle messiah has a financial vision of the future.
                                      but other than that; the gaffs and socially clumsy situations just keep on rolling from one public meeting to another.

                                      enjoy

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                                        vor8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                        Shall we go back and review GW 's first months? Someone who had been a glad hander all his life. Who had executive experience?

                                        But it is good to see that you may have a shred of dignity left! It isn't the politics I object to here it is the absolute stupidity and the inaccurate reporting of the days events.

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                                          mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                          "I heard from a republican, no less, that Obama was very gracious with Brown and the queen. That is a good sign that he is learning."

                                          --Not everyone can carry himself with the charm and grace that Bush did, Klarissa. ;-X

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                                            fsev418 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                            Hey Klarissa, if that Republican who told you that is actually learning he'll probably soon be a Democrat.

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                                          frctm58 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                          Okay what would anyone suggest as a gift for the queen? Lets face it, it is very unlikely she really wants or needs anything. When George Bush jr was at a state diner with the queen while his father was president, he told the queen that he was the black sheep of his family and asked Elizabeth who was the black sheep in hers. I am not saying protocol is not unimportant, but its hardly the most pressing issue right now.

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                                            Wolfie20078 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                            frctm5

                                            Protocol has everything to do with meeting the Queen. It is certainly "the most pressing issue" when you have been fortunate enough to be invited to meet with Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip. DUH!

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                                              mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                              But, again...I must ask why cons think anyone believes they genuinely care what the rest of the world thinks of us? ;-P

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                                                frctm58 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                Somehow I think Anglo American relations will survive this test. Go back to your soap opera.

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                                              k9kssr8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                              "Okay what would anyone suggest as a gift for the queen? Lets face it, it is very unlikely she really wants or needs anything"

                                              Frctm5, well, personally, I would give her something about Pembroke Welsh Corgis.....she has a fondness for them. Or I might give her a Peggy Bang original of a cocker. We'd talk about dogs, and Crufts dogshow, and Westminster dog show and I'd kiss up to her about all the wonderful breeds that originated in England like the English cocker, and the English Setter, the corgis both Pembroke and Cardigan, the English Toy Spaniel, the King Charles Spaniel, the Welsh terrier, the Fox terrier both wire and smooth, etc. We'd get on famously and we'd be so engrossed in our conversation about dogs and dog shows we wouldn't notice that Brown or Obama or that Chinese dude was choking and almost unconcious at the next table until the paramedics came in to do the Hindlick maneuver on them. I know, because this actually happened, except I wasn't talking to the Queen and it wasn't Brown or Obama who was choking to death and it wasn't in England that this happened.

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                                                Wolfie20078 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                k9k

                                                Excellent, I think the Queen would love you, if you could only approach her. lol So, tell us where did it happen?

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                                                not2needy8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                What do you buy for a person who can have anything they want at their fingertips 24/7/365?????
                                                What would you have bought her, another castle or a few new crowns?? lol
                                                You need to learn how to pick your battles, at least President Obama didn't say she was 200 yrs old then wink at her in front of the whole world!

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                                                  NoWayMan8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                  what do you give the woman who (literally) has everything?

                                                  the IPod is uniquely american in conception, design and innovation. and it points to the future. so at least there was some thought behind it.

                                                  it coulda been A LOT worse people.

                                                  this story is akin in importance to stories about what Michelle Obama wore to meet the queen or Gordon Brown and his wife.

                                                  just another non-story from pc25.

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                                                    Hhussk8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                    it coulda been A LOT worse people.

                                                    Seriously, this was the best comeback you could come up with?

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                                                      mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                      The problem for and with cons is that you're always preoccupied with the wrong kinds of "comebacks."

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                                                        Hhussk8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                        The problem for and with cons is that you're always preoccupied with the wrong kinds of "comebacks."

                                                        Nice try, but you're only making liberals appear more stupid.

                                                        When a person tries to defend an act by saying "It could have been a lot worse", they are admitting by default that it was bad.

                                                        "It could have been a lot worse" also means "Yes, it was bad, but it wasn't the worse thing that could have gone wrong".

                                                        "It could have beeen a LOT worse" Let's give examples!
                                                        1. He could have given her a *********ture.
                                                        2. He could have pulled out a knife, stabbed the Queen and caused an international incident.
                                                        3. The iPod could have had wrapper lyrics with swear words on it.
                                                        4. The iPod could have been broke. (although it wouldn't matter since the Queen already HAD her own iPod.

                                                        So yes. it could have been a LOT worse.

                                                        Liberals suck at comebacks.

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                                                          Hhussk8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                          1. He could have given her a picture of a person undressed. (was blanked out by asterisks above)

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                                                            mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                            "When a person tries to defend an act by saying "It could have been a lot worse", they are admitting by default that it was bad."

                                                            --This is an issue of semantics...Say you won a million dollar lottery one day and then the next day you're told that the actual prize you're to be awarded is only $999,999.00. Technically you'd then be worse off financially than you were the day before, right? Are you telling me you'd feel that receiving $999,999 was bad? Of course not.

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                                                        NoWayMan8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                        your mistake (and not your first. not by a long shot) was in thinking that I was trying to make some sort of "comeback" when no comeback was in order.

                                                        the gift was fine. I was just pointing out the obvious reasons why it was a good choice.

                                                        and who cares, really, except those trying to make something of nothing? (like you, Hhussk)

                                                        either way, the gift seemed to work since today all we see are stories about how the Queen wrapped her arm around Michelle Obama in a breaking of protocol and public show of affection rarely seen with the Queen.

                                                        so, IPod or not, the Queen was obviously smitten by Michelle Obama, which makes all this nonsense over the gift exactly that: nonsense.

                                                        hows that for a comeback?

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                                                      Hhussk8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                      I don't intend to spend a lot of time focusing on what our President gives out as presents.

                                                      It was a terrible gift and showed little in terms of forethought.

                                                      Although the President was "rude" in terms of protocol towards the Queen, I won't hammer at him. He hasn't been trained in etiquette.

                                                      The biggest problem I have with an iPod as a gift is 1) It lacks ceremonial (sentimental) value and substance, and 2) The Queen already had one.

                                                      Folks....She already had a iPod.

                                                      Couldn't U.S. intelligence have tipped off the President? What the hell is going on?

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                                                        mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                        "It was a terrible gift and showed little in terms of forethought."

                                                        --But I think that's for the Queen to decide.

                                                        "Although the President was "rude" in terms of protocol towards the Queen, I won't hammer at him. He hasn't been trained in etiquette."

                                                        --First, he's not a seal. And if you're someone who is used to greeting people a certain way, it's perfectly understandable that one might slip up. I know doctors and musicians who don't shake hands because they fear having their hands (livelihood) injured by someone who grasps it too hard.

                                                        "The biggest problem I have with an iPod as a gift is 1) It lacks ceremonial (sentimental) value and substance, and 2) The Queen already had one."

                                                        --Again, it's for the Queen to decide if the gift was or wasn't appropriate. AFAIK, we don't know what she thinks of her gift. I have two iPods myself (many people have more than one) and as the technology is updating all the time, I'm sure I'll buy more. So what if she had one already? For all we know, she could be a collector.

                                                        Now, if you're worried about how Obama's gift could hurt international relations, just remind yourself that we *could* do (and *have* done) far worse (our former most recent former President being a prime example) in choosing a leader. And I happen to think Obama is doing a great job so far. Not bad at all

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                                                        mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                        "It was a terrible gift and showed little in terms of forethought.."

                                                        --Again, I can't help but marvel at cons deciding what's a "terrible gift" (at the very least that's for the *recipient* to assess) or what's good "protocol" or "etiquette" vis a vis the international community. Do you cons simply *not* remember who and what you supported for the last 8 years? GET SERIOUS, clowns. ;-P

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                                                          Hhussk8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                          Once again you, a liberal, fails to understand what etiquette means. When Obama grabbed the Queens hand with both of his, that was a breach of etiquette. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm sure the Queen was quite forgiving and let it pass. The British media will probably latch on to it for a few days - much like the Gordeon Brown DVD incident - but it will eventually pass.

                                                          And the situation really only passes for humor, not real news. You see, had George Bush given the Queen an iPod, or PM Brown a set of DVD that didn't work, you'd be calling him a 'moron' immediately and stating 'how bad a job he is doing representing this country' and how 'no other country can take this buffoon seriously'. The only problem is....and calm down....this isn't Bush doing idiotic things. This is Obama.

                                                          Swallow your pills.

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                                                            mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                            "When Obama grabbed the Queens hand with both of his, that was a breach of etiquette."

                                                            --Call me sensitive but I think bombing Iraq was pretty rude.

                                                            "You see, had George Bush given the Queen an iPod, or PM Brown a set of DVD that didn't work, you'd be calling him a 'moron' immediately and stating 'how bad a job he is doing representing this country' and how 'no other country can take this buffoon seriously'."

                                                            --Now here is where cons fall flat onto their smug, arrogant faces...You'll let FOX tell you what's a "scandal" or a "controversy" and you lap it up like poodles. Obama shook the Queen's hand awkwardly. Contrast that with Bush forcing a backrub on the German chancellor or whatever. Exactly... Night and day difference. And Bush got slammed as a clown by the media AFTER he'd established a lengthy record of disgraceful and embarrassing international behavior. Again, BIG difference.

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                                                          Wolfie20078 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                          Well, I heard this morning the Obama's did give the royal couple a songbook signed by Richard Roberts. The Queen is presumed to be a fan. That was nice and thoughtful and a step up from their usual tasteless gifts. Wonder who in the administration thought of it, he or she should get a promotion maybe to Treasury Secretary. lol

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                                                            Hhussk8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                            That's a much better gift, I definately agree. I hope it's a true story.

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                                                            Wolfie20078 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                            The liberal progressives seem to be enraged about this, gee, I love the block. LSHIPMP!!

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                                                              mesodude8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                              "The liberal progressives seem to be enraged about this, gee, I love the block. LSHIPMP!!"

                                                              --I'm just amazed cons still think these lame smear attempts will resurrect their sad, disgraceful agenda that was REJECTED on this past Election Day. But keep dreaming and replacing the batteries in your plastic "personal massagers." You'll get there sooner or later, wolfie. ;-P

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                                                              MILITA8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                              Way cool. Anyway, you cannot buy friends.
                                                              Phyllis Kunz

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                                                                aCitizenConsern8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                                HOW COME THE GREAT ONE, THE CHOSEN ONE DON'T KNOW WHAT AN IPOD IS TELL HER NOT TO LOOK AT IT BUT TO LISTEN TO IT THIS IS WHAT THE MOST IMPORTANT. "ANYWAY GOD SUPPOSE TO KNOW EVERYTHING" WHAT'S A JOKE

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                                                                  Wolfie20078 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                                  aCitizen

                                                                  I'm sure there is some kind of message in your comment but I can't figure out what it might be.
                                                                  lol

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                                                                    aCitizenConsern8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                                    SIMPLE STOP BLAMING MY PRESIDENT AND MY FIRST LADY FOR THIS KIND OF "DISCRIMINATING PROTOCOL" THIS QUEEN SITDOWN THERE DOING WHAT SHE'S A "TOURIST ATTRACTION" WHILE MY PRESIDENT IS THERE WORKING HARD IF SHE CAN TOUCH MY FIRST LADY SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME TO HER SHE'S NOT THE VIRGIN MARY COME ON

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                                                                  vidman048 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                                  What a buffoon! Obummmer and his man-wife are an embarrassment to America....

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                                                                    krystalxlyte8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                                    An I-pod? Oh the horror!With video!!!! Pretty soon they're going to get the hang of the Internets. Any day now.....no wait McCain is familiar with all Internet "traditions." They should have asked him!!!!

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                                                                      aCitizenConsern8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                                      VIVE LA FRANCE! THANK YOU Mr ROBESPIERRE THANK YOU FOR LA BASTILLE

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                                                                        cushi8 months, 3 weeks ago

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                                                                        I would say that this post presents the pinnacle of neocon pettiness, but neocon pettiness has no bounds...bracing myself for the next nugget of nothingness!!

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