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Posted By RedRiverJ 8 months, 2 weeks ago in NewsMoving as quickly as he can to gut the USA and then divide its body parts amongst like-minded globalists, the USA’s Supreme Leader Barack Hussein Obama used the G-20 conference to begin his turnover of USA sovereignty to said internationalists and start the move toward a one-world government. Obama has signed off on international legislation—the Financial Stability Board—that would regulate ALL firms, including those within the USA and places them under the responsibility of an international governmental agency.
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RedRiverJ8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Ronald Reagan emphasized, America is a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere."
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And, "As Ronald Reagan said in his farewell address to the nation, 'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.
Obama sees America as much less. Evidently he sees our country as bad and in need of his divine leadership, his super human wisdom because he is beginning to selling away our sovereignty. Our very right to govern as we so see fit according to our constitution means nothing to Obama.
No more constitution, no more founding fathers, because Obama thinks America is in such a horrible shape we need the far superior Europeans to bring us in to the New World Order!
Out with capitalism in with socialism. After all you will get free health care, maybe depending upon your age.
He has proclaimed war on our 1st and 2nd amendment rights, he has spent more money in his short time in office than has been spent since the time of George Washington until today.
How much more will our country loose before American's wake up and see this man is ruining our country.-
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RedRiverJ8 months, 2 weeks ago
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FTA-During this same conference, Obama officially announced the reduction in US nuclear weaponry, so that Iran will be more amenable to sitting down to talk with the US. In other words, he’s again announced to the world that the USA is no longer a threat to anyone—let alone terrorist.
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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An explanation of the FSB (which is an enlarged version of the Financial Stability Forum, an advisory group established in 1999 to promote international financial stability through better information exchange and international cooperation) can be found here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/04/financ...
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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What is the estimated number of nuclear weapons in the entire world?
The Center for Defense Information puts the number at about 22,000.
Of these, 10,500 belong to the US. (and 10,000 to Russia). So lets see . . .the US (and Russia) could eliminate 7,800 of these weapons, and still have twice as many (each) as the rest of the world combined.
That would be 15,600 less weapons that could end up in the hands of terrorists.-
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fiftynine8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Please Forrest..you are trying to make a valid point to someone that makes up facts to suit his agenda,promotes anti Americanism,and gets his talking points from rush and coulter...
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Five thousand nukes between us and the russians are a suffecient number to kill every human on earth but that isn't enough in these sick minds...-
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SFCGuyW8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Far to many Americans fail to understand subjects such as you, RedRiverJ, have commented on & you are one of them. For the last 30 years the USA has been reducing it's nuclear arsenal under agreements made with the USSR and other members of the nuclear club. We are dismantling old nukes as they become unstable and/or technologically out of date. Before then the USA had enough nukes to kill every human and destroy every nation on the planet over nine times. We now can only do this about seven times over. The reduction Obama proposes would lower that to 6 times over & rightfully so sense the nations capable of using nukes to destroy the USA has grown slimmer because of destroying nukes they own and our capability of intercepting missiles. One USA nuke sub has the firepower to kill every person in Iran, N. Korea and most other potential enemy nations. Iran knows this and so does NK - thus, they postulate only, knowing that if they ever did use a nuke they would be destroying themselves. . . . . Even our non-nuke weapons are horrifically destructive in power and accuracy today. One modern bomber carries more lethal accuracy than a flight of bomber in WWII. Instead of having to destroy a city to ensure the weapons factory is destroyed we can now pin point the weapons factory with little damage to civilian homes. . . . Obama is not making us any weaker by these concessions.
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Thanks for taking the time to talk, Endoscopy.
I am very proud of many things about America, and that is the reason I think it is important for ALL Americans to politely point out when we threaten to (or actually do) stray from the path of being a country worthy of respect.
Simply asking of someone if they think the US has ever done anything wrong does not mean I am putting the country down. In fact, I think asking questions and discussing issues with other people, and especially our elected representatives, is the height of Patriotism. Frankly, I think people who say things like: "America, right or wrong", hurt our country.-
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Thanks for replying.
How does one correct a child they love? By telling them what it is about their behavior that does not meet your approval.
Again, all I'm really saying is that criticism of our country by our citizens should never be an excuse to call them unpatriotic.
They may be wrong. They may even be arrogantly, hatefully, gleefully, wrong. But refute their facts, and don't just label them unpatriotic.
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Thanks for the reply.
I look forward to discussing what mistakes President Obama makes, because all people make mistakes, even Presidents.
It's even possible that this expansion of the Financial Stability Forum into the Financial Stability Board is a mistake.
But even if it's a mistake, it is not the beginning of turning over US sovereignty to an international body.
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fiftynine8 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Obama sees America as much less"....and your opinion and facts come from where..faux news,limpballs,coulter ?..
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I always find it amazing how you right wingers are able, with your super human telepathic ability's , to read peoples minds and then inject your own theory's of what people really mean ..Amazing,interesting..but productive? No !!!-
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Endoscopy8 months, 2 weeks ago
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There is the liberal hate mongering. Do not refute the message with facts but shoot the messenger. Great argument showing what kind of person you are. As Limbaugh says "mind numbed robots". Soros speaks through moveon.org and the masses of libs get right in step.
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fiftynine8 months, 2 weeks ago
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"There is the liberal hate mongering"....lolol...Don't read move on..sorry.Damn ,come to think of it..about the only people i know that do are repubs..lol
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"As Limbaugh says ...............".....lolol..I knew that is where you got it..You are hilarious endo,transparent as clean piece of glass.
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RedRiverJ8 months, 2 weeks ago
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fiftynine glad you find us amazing!
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Obama is selling out your country too, doesn't that make you angry he is willing to do this huge step and NONE of us have any say in this crap?
I find it amazing that so many of you stick up for this man, he is clearly destroying OUR, mine and your country and you guys think he's a GOD.-
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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I can't speak for all liberals, but I don't think President Obama is a god. I have no idea if his administration will be good or bad, since it's far too early to tell, at least for me.
I'm not even sticking up for him. I'm just trying to point out that accusing Obama of "selling out" our country is on a par with people who said President Bush's White House blew up the twin-towers.
That's just my opinion and I could be wrong. Again, please look at the link:
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fiftynine8 months, 2 weeks ago
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See what i mean..another example of that simplemindedness..."and you guys think he's a GOD.".....The ONLY..repeat..ONLY,people that i hear referring to Obama in that way are the repugs..God,Messiah,The Appointed One...You all are weird.
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I don't think you get it,you obviously were in a coma the last eight years or you would see that it was bushboy and the gang that got us here..it was bushboy that went into Iraq,while kissing saudi royalty,ignoring the fact that most of the hijackers on 9/11 were saudis...not one Iraqi..It was bushboy that doubled our debt..a republican trait..and it was bushboy that started the money giveaway ...Now if you had an inkling of a brain you would understand that 1. Obama wasn't president the previous eight years..2.he has only been in office two months,not long enough for any of his proposals to take effect...
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oneironaut4208 months, 2 weeks ago
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"The ONLY..repeat..ONLY,people that i hear referring to Obama in that way are the repugs..God,Messiah,The Appointed One..."
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Bingo...I have not heard a single Democrat or Independent proclaim this man to be a god...the only ones mentioning it are the Republicans...and usually, I might add, the ones who have never admitted to any of Bush's mistakes, whatsoever.
Hypocrisy. 8(
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truthfirst8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Don't forget that most liberals view of God is different from the true believer in Christ.
Also, the scripture speaks of the Devil being the Angel of Light. Jesus said in John 8:44: "You are of your father the Devil, v and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer w from the beginning and has not stood in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he speaks from his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of liars. One author has said about this passage: Sonship is predicated on conduct. A son will manifest his father’s characteristics
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oneironaut4208 months, 2 weeks ago
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"you guys think he's a GOD."
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Nope. I don't think he's a god, and I don't know anyone who thinks he's a god. This is a straw man...you are setting up a specious argument, and then arguing against it. I would be very interested in knowing just who these people are who have proclaimed the President a divine being...just one will do, in fact. 8)
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Klarissa8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Fifty, I get really tired of you libs saying, ".faux news,limpballs,coulter ?.."
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When you have to use gutter terms to discuss political issues you are showing us that you are covering up the fact that you have nothing worthwhile to add to the discussion.-
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fiftynine8 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Fifty, I get really tired of you libs saying, ".faux news,limpballs,coulter ?.."....Why,offend you,make you mad that we discovered who your real leaders are and where you get your info...If it offends the anti American propagandist here ..good.
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Daylight8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Ronald Reagan emphasized, America is a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere."
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His America is dead long before he died and George Bush was elected to drive the last nail on the coffin . Present America is controlled by Zionists oppressors of the world who care for anything and their greed has killed the American and the world economy. America is a country approved torture, invasion, occupation and secret prisons throughout the world can never claim to be anything but evil. Whether you believe it or not America really is in a bad shape the media is covering the real damages done to this county by the Bush administration. Neocons will never accept their wrong doings. -
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UnusualSuspect8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Laughable at best, RR (still drinking that RedRiver water, I see...try buying bottled water, and see if you start thinking sensibly...)
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Obama does not want a one-world government. What he does want is the world as a whole to try and solve the world's problems...
It's not just the us, the United States, LEADER OF THE WORLD, inhabiting this planet, but all nations, and the sooner we all get together and try solving the world's problems, the better off we'll be...
The US as the know-all, be all, leader of the world, is a concept that's become not only outdated, but more importantly, dangerous to the welfare of the world.
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wbdr548 months, 2 weeks ago
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wow.....after 8 long years of tearing the constitution up and raping this nation you conservatives are still living blind....we were lied to the minute the elections were over in 2000....you people destroyed our good name in the world, lied to us about iraq and never finished the job in afghanistan.....how hard is it to find a six foot four muslim on dialisis!!!!!
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nostalgia8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Is this next?
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Globalists 'salivating' over collapse of U.S.
Warning issued over drive for Constitution Convention
Globalists are "salivating" over the possibility of a Constitutional Convention at which issues such as the 2nd Amendment could handily be dismissed, according to a leader who warns Virginia likely is the next target for the drive.
"There is no question in my mind that, should a new Constitutional Convention be called, it would be the end of the United States of America as we know it, and our current Constitution and Bill of Rights would be forever altered beyond recognition," Constitution Party presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin wrote in his latest commentary.
"The globalists who currently control Washington, D.C., and Wall Street are, no doubt, salivating over the opportunity to officially dismantle America's independence and national sovereignty, and establish a globalist North American Union – in much the same way that globalists created the European Union. A new Constitutional Convention is exactly the tool they need to cement their sinister scheme into law."
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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(By the way, I couldn't go to where your link wanted me to, I think. I got an error message).
But I did find an article entitled:
"Wyoming: Don't mess with U.S. Constitution
Resolution opposes convention to debate 'our most precious rights'"
And from that article, I found this:
"The effort to establish a convention began about 40 years ago, mostly based on issues such as the desire for a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. "
I also found a decent reference link:
http://www.lessonplanspage.com/SSInfoDiscAct-DoWeN...
That talks about the basics of Amendments and Constitutional Conventions. Even written for high schoolers, so I could understand it.-
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nostalgia8 months, 2 weeks ago
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But there is no control over what they do once the Con con is started
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A state can petition to have a Con Con for one reason (balanced budget amendment) and there is nothing to even force the Con Con to actually consider that
They can eliminate the entire constitution and submit an entirely different document if they so chose
According to your "lesson plan" - The other way of amending the Constitution has never been successfully used. Under this procedure, the states initiate the amending process by petitioning Congress for a constitutional convention
But according to what I have read a Constitutional Convention of 1787 was called to revise the ailing Articles of Confederation. But what did they do? Threw out the articles of Confederation and wrote an entirely new document - the constitution we now have
Since it is obvious by the actions which administrations and congress have been taking over decades, they ignore the current constitution and do what they please
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Our (the country's) following of the Constitution has been a process of trying to follow the guidelines and rules it establishes. Sometimes close, sometimes not so close.
My point is this: In over 225 years, there has never been a Constitutional Convention called. It seems a single amendment will finally get worked out when push comes to shove, and the number of states calling for a convention gets close.
To be sounding the alarm that globalists are any closer to trying to re-write our Constitution now than at any other time is either, in my opinion, paranoid delusion or deception meant to make President Obama look bad.-
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nostalgia8 months, 2 weeks ago
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What single amendment is even being worked on right now? There are none that I know of
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What would you say IF enough states vote and a Con Con is scheduled? Would you simply change position and support it or would you condemn it?
Some of the states who voted for a Con Con are trying to rescind their votes
The question is - can a state rescind their vote calling for a Con Con?
Supreme Court Chief Justice Warren Burger warned us about what could happen if a Con Con was called: "There is no effective way to limit or muzzle the actions of a Constitutional Convention. The Convention could make its own rules and set its own agenda."-
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CRYMTYPHON8 months, 2 weeks ago
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While you are sensibly pointing out the dangerous unknowns
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involved in a constitutional convention, you also say none is planned.
This thread is about an article saying Obama is initiating the
destruct sequence for American sovereignty.
You are adding sensible observations to that paranoid lie;
the colors clash .
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vettenut8 months, 2 weeks ago
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You could not be MORE WRONG!!!!!!!!
Have you actually been reading the posts and the article?
The posters you disparage by name-calling are "SOUNDING THE ALARM," and NOT SALIVATING IN THE LEAST over what they see the apparently (judging by his record so far) first Quasi-Socialist President of the US of A doing to undermine, weaken, dissect, confiscate, polarize and otherwise destroy this country and the lives of its citizens. -
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truthiness8 months, 2 weeks ago
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a constitutional convention would, by definition, bring together people from all areas of America.
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It probably would represent people that you describe, but it would also represent people like you. and it would represent middle of the road people as well.
Of course this wouldn't actually be a Constitutional Convention... Article 5 of the Constitution provides for a Convention for amending the constitution, stating that all such amendments would be considered part of the current constitution... that is what these people are pushing for.
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nostalgia8 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Article 5 of the Constitution provides for a Convention for amending the constitution, stating that all such amendments would be considered part of the current constitution... that is what these people are pushing for."
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That is correct BUT who is to stop them from changing anything in the constitution they wish to change?
December 12, 2008
U.S. now only 2 states away from rewriting Constitution
Critic: 'This is a horrible time to try such a crazy scheme'
A public policy organization has issued an urgent alert stating affirmative votes are needed from only two more states before a Constitutional Convention could be assembled in which "today's corrupt politicians and judges" could formally change the U.S. Constitution's "'problematic' provisions to reflect the philosophical and social mores of our contemporary society."
"Don't for one second doubt that delegates to a Con Con wouldn't revise the First Amendment into a government-controlled privilege, replace the 2nd Amendment with a 'collective' right to self-defense, and abolish the 4th, 5th, and 10th Amendments, and the rest of the Bill of Rights," said the warning from the American Policy Center.
"Additions could include the non-existent separation of church and state, the 'right' to abortion and euthanasia, and much, much more," the group said.
Tom DeWeese, who runs the center and its education and grassroots work, told WND the possibilities stunned him when he discovered lawmakers in Ohio are considering a call for a Constitutional Convention. He explained that 32 other states already have taken that vote, and only one more would be needed to require Congress to name convention delegates who then would have more power than Congress itself.
"The U.S. Constitution places no restriction on the purposes for which the states can call for a convention," the alert said. "If Ohio votes to call a Con Con, for whatever purpose, the United States will be only one state away from total destruction. And it's a safe bet that those who hate this nation, and all She stands for, are waiting to pounce upon this opportunity to re-write our Constitution."
Melody Barnes, a senior domestic policy adviser to the Obama campaign, said in the Fox News report, "His view is that our society isn't static and the law isn't static as well. That the Constitution is a living and breathing
document and that the law and the justices who interpret it have to understand that."
Obama said in a 2001 radio interview the Constitution is flawed in that it does not mandate or allow for redistribution of wealth.
the last Constitutional Convention met in 1787, the original goal was to amend the Articles of Confederation. Instead, delegates simply threw them out and wrote a new Constitution.
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truthiness8 months, 2 weeks ago
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what happened in 1787 was drawn up by the people's representatives and then ratified by the states. this was the great democracy we are in action.
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These policy wonks you are quoting are just fear mongering because the last thing they want is the inevitable enforceability and accountability of Constitutional law that would come out of such a convention. right now they do whatever they want and then use the esoteric concept of the constitution as a shield.
Obama, a Constitutional scholar, is correct that the document is meant to be flexible, that's why article 5 exists.
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BB648 months, 2 weeks ago
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Yep, I can understand why so many people continue to buy gold and fire arms. Did anyone that voted for Barrack realize the sellout they were voting for? Do any of them clearly understand the dangers of a one world government? It took the communists a little over 100 years to end democracy in the US. So do we get rid of the Stars and Bars for the Hammer and Sickle?
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dgoodii8 months, 2 weeks ago
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It will take a few decades of fundamentally true education to wake people up. Problem there is we may not have that kind of time. The globalist have been indoctrinating the masses in social fairness for a longtime. Too many have bought into the entitlement of every thing, guaranteed by the great and all powerful Government. If Europe thinks US will be able to infuse more then we already do into their countries the vault is empty. Without returning to a more free-market system (less Federal Govt) there never will be the great prosperity we have grown accustomed to over the years. Tax burden is going to rob the future generations of the chance for greatness.
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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(My first post got "lost" so if this turns up elsewhere, it is in response to BB64's question "So do we get rid of the Stars and Bars for the Hammer and Sickle?")
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icono18 months, 2 weeks ago
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The old one did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Un...
That is what he is referring to.
Although to the neo liberal masses of the US the flag has no relevance, to some Americans, and Europeans, it still represents a very repressive political system that was locked into a very dangerous game of global domination with the US and allies for the better part of the last century.-
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vettenut8 months, 2 weeks ago
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RE: differences between Communism and Socialism
Socialism is to Communism as a tadpole is to a frog.
It's a matter of degree, but both are simply different life-phases of the same animal.
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Why would you think that the flag of the former Soviet Union has no relevance?
Perhaps my reply to BB64 wasn't clear. See, to me, there is a big difference between a Communist country and Socialism. The USSR was a Communist regime, and to suggest its flag be used by us implied (to me) that BB64 thought we were becoming a Communistic country and that he thought the current country of Russia and the former USSR were one and the same.
I can see, now, upon re-reading BB64's comments that this is not, probably, what he intended. In my defense, I think I was confused by the immediately preceding sentence: "It took the communists a little over 100 years to end democracy in the US.", which is, to me, an absolutely unintelligible comment.-
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Thanks for replying.
We could spend all day discussing the difference between Communism and Socialism, I'm sure, and since you are seemingly following the Marxist explanation (Capitalism leads to Socialism leads to Communism) I understand your analogy.
I just don't agree with it. Not all ideas labeled Socialism - are, nor do they necessarily come from Marx.
And, finally, while I appreciate your friends' experiences, please remember that there are people who have grown up in America and hate this government, and far more who don't understand it at all.-
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vettenut8 months, 2 weeks ago
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You misunderstand my analogy.
I do not subscribe to the Marxist explanation of economic system progression. Specifically, I do not believe that Capitalism leads to Socialism at all. Nor do I so state in my post.
I believe that true Capitalism leads to prosperity and more Capitalism.
I believe that greed, ignorance, sloth, political correctness and a lack of self-esteem lead to both Socialism and Communism. The difference between the two is that Socialism is usually brought into being relatively peacefully, while Communism is usually brought about violently.
Finally, it is TRULY SAD that people who have had the opportunity of growing up in the USA, with the all the personal freedom and educational possibilities available here, who hate the USA, and who do still do not understand either the country or its Constitution.-
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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I believe we are "arguing" about a complex subject in an unfriendly environment for such a task. You (and I) have too few words to explain in the detail needed to make such a complex discussion work.
I did not misunderstand t\your analogy. A tadpole (Socialism) leads to a frog (Communism). That is what made me believe you subscribed to the Capitalism-Socialism-Communism progression.
Now, you say Socialism and Communism are both frogs, the only difference being if you captured one in the wild (Communism) or bought one born and raised from a pet store (Socialism).
When you say: "Greed, ignorance, sloth, political correctness and a lack of self-esteem lead to both Socialism and Communism", I think that is simply applying epithets to something you find abhorrent. All of those characteristics exist in every society, to varying degrees and have no more to do with the political direction that society follows than does hair color.
I do agree with your last paragraph.
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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"fine shovel ready comrade" - haha! Good one, icono1.
Well, I con no one, either, but it's been a few years since McCarthyism and the great red scare. I guess that's what this discussion is all about - many people see the words Communism and Socialism and it's like vampyres and garlic - or sunlight. My opinion is this: most intelligent people recognize that there's some socialism in most democracies, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
I try not to be rude on Propeller. I try to discuss, to ask questions, so that I can learn. If someone manages to learn something from me, that would be ok, too.
I have no idea what we are going to "learn" here, but let's try:
BB64 wrote: "It took the communists a little over 100 years to end democracy in the US."
Ok, so metaphorically speaking (and I'm definitely NOT begging a question, am I?) BB64 means the Communists ended Democracy in the US.
So is a metaphorical Communist takeover the same as a concrete takeover?
Is America in April of 2009 really equivalent to December 1917 in Russia?
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FairNBalanced8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Tea parties are brewing. Obama's approval is going down, and his disapproval is going up.
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Obama will be viewed as the worst president ever, I have no doubt of that.
Overall, 56% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance so far. Forty-four percent (44%) disapprove.
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RedRiverJ8 months, 2 weeks ago
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I mean the republican party in Washington D.C. Why in the hell aren't they screaming about this issue? Unless of course they are for Obama beginning Turning over USA Sovereignty to International Body.
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dgoodii8 months, 2 weeks ago
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I only hope that a real constitutionalist emerges and can gain support from the people. May take a hundred years to undo what they have been doing for about as long. Though fixing it by reducing dependence on government will be much easier then trying to tax to keep the schemes going.
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As for the march there will be one before to long, only hope they don't declare it a hostile event towards government. I would love to see truckers and buses full of people shut the entire city down for a day. Because are cesspool needs a thorough cleaning out. -
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Seriously. Now you think the Republicans are "in on it", too? Getting a bit paranoid?
Look, I appreciate your concern over what you perceive as the "crisis" occurring in America ever since Obama was elected. I'm not trying to sound like a smart-a**, but you are beginning to sound a lot like the people who ranted about needing to overthrow President Bush.
If you really feel that President Obama is making mistakes, and you feel that people like me have been "fooled" by him, then let's start having serious discussions about what is really going on, instead of wasting time with insane conspiracy-theorist's nightmares that don't exist.-
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RedRiverJ8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Forrest............
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Where do the republican's stand on US Sovereignty and the New World Order?
George Herbert Walker Bush spoke of it in a speech during his administration so I was curious with this G20 summit and Obama's speech's leaning that direction, why aren't the Republicans speaking out about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSiIYB-lo4M-
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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I think, honestly, that almost every single Republican and Democrat will work to maintain US sovereignty. On any other subject, they might take a bribe, but not that.
I also think that talk of the New World Order and the threat of a "one world government" are silly. I could, however, be wrong.-
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RedRiverJ8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Forrest:
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I think Obama has over stepped his boundaries a bit. That's what I meant about where are the Republican's, they should be looking into that part of all Obama said.
I don't know on the one world government.
Check this out........
http://www.spp.gov/
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ADAGUY8 months, 2 weeks ago
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"the republican party in Washington D.C. Why in the hell aren't they screaming about this issue?"
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Perhaps they realize that had it not been for their corruption and constant demands for deregulation, this would have never been necessary!
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fiftynine8 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Obama will be viewed as the worst president ever, I have no doubt of that. "....lolol..
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You honestly think he can beat bush for that spot ?..lolol...
Twenty percent approval when that moron left town,and that twenty percent found a home here on propeller....YOU LOST,THE COUNTRY WON...-
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fiftynine8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Ok..Fact is ,the dumb one and his crew left this country in a mess,two wars,fifteen million illegals,an economy in shambles,an infrastructure that is collapsing around us,ten trillion in debt,a military at the breaking point,our stature in the world bruised,if not broken,and a country divided by the great uniter....and the list goes on....and people like you want to lay the blame on Obama ? Two months in office could never do the damage we see and you know it and two months in office damn sure can't fix it....You are the ones that need to wake and realize that eight years of an inept boy is what happened and now the adults have to clean up after him,keep listening to and following the words of these anti American talking heads like beck,coulter,hannity,limpbahhh, and you and the others that couldn't do anything when you have power will become totally irrelevent,,,
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The American public..a sound majority of the American public said playtime was over this last Nov.. and put the children out to play and hired a president with a brain...Hard to get used to isn't it ?
Now you need to wake up and lead,follow,or get out of the way...You all LOST...Get over it Annie.-
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CactusAnnie8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Hey there darlin', do a little research. This started in the 90s, and the late 70s and was waylayed for a time. Reagan had stymied the results for a while, from the effects of the Savings an Loans, dang it, I do not have the time or space to get into all the details with you. It is easy for you to find if you only take the time to look.
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The brief version, In the late 90's trillions of dollars were removed from our economy and moved to Asia. 911 was used to cover the loss. You really, really think that World Com went bankrupt overnight? (Follow the trail, my friend, they are now owned by major stock holder, Chinese, Red Chinese Liberation army that controls our left coast ports and yes, Panama, and New Orleans.) You think that Sprint, suddenly with their PCS stock prices overnight went from $123 per share to $3.00 per share???? Wake up Darlin'!!! It wasn't Bush!
You can track most everything at this time, don't know if it will be available in the future. http://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml. Just take the time to some very basic searches, the IDEA engine is wonderful.
I realize it is much easier to pick a target and listen to the crap our propaganda machines have been feeding you than to take the time to search the truth, but I have the feeling you might be one who really wants to know, and at this point in time it is still a matter of public record. What is happening now at breathtaking speed is a violation of everything we have stood for in the past, It is the completion of the sellout of our nation. Wake up sweetie! Please, please do a little research on your own and do not listen to all the George Soros propaganda machines.
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fiftynine8 months, 2 weeks ago
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"started in the 90s, and the late 70s "....Nixon,ford,reagon,bush 1,baby bush,...see a pattern ...Trickle down that has down nothing except trickle up creating the biggest gap in income since the twenty's...Iran Contra,illegal weapons sales,CIA involvement in central America,"read my lips,no new taxes"..,The S scandal that the bushes were right in the center of,deficit spending that has bankrupted this country...massive borrowing from the same people that raygun railed against..the communist,illegal wars,...and that is just a partial list..didn't mention torture,wiretaps,the patriot act,our selling weapons to Iraq,borders that aren't secure,sea ports that aren't secure,runaway illegal invasion of our country...Yep,good legacy there Annie..doubling our debt under raygun and bushboy..yep,reeeeal good..
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"911 was used to cover the loss"...And we still don't know the entire truth of that attack on bushboys watch..."Wake up Darlin'!!! It wasn't Bush! "...If all of these problems were brought on by the dems then why didn't that dumbazz do something to fix it instead of digging the hole deeper,he had eight years Annie..just as the repubs had majority control many of those years from nixon on..and they did nothing to fix anything...just blame,blame and more blame,while we lost four million of our manufacturing jobs,and the decimation of our manufacturing base and the repub majoritys did what...Gave tax breaks to company's that gave away American jobs..
"and at this point in time it is still a matter of public record. What is happening now at breathtaking speed is a violation of everything we have......"What you see now is the backlash of standing on the breaks to stop what the neocons under bushboy almost accomplished..complete corporate fascism..The sell out of our country to the highest bidder,china,arab interest ( remember who wanted to give them control of our ports up and down the east coast.remember ?) ,and wall street (with no oversight)..
I don't listen to george soro's or move on,i have lived through all of this with my eyes wide open..I don't need a rush,or a coulter to tell me what to think or say.,unlike the right that has selective memory when it fits them.
The blue print for what you saw in the last eight years is in the P.N.A.C.....Read that and get back to me..
The American people decided that they had had enough of the right wings gloom and doom and lies,they spoke loudly and they spoke firmly...It is time to move forward,away from the bush policys that have put us where we are at...You know these things can not be turned around in two months don't you? Or maybe like most i hear on here you want that instant gratification that you have become so accustomed to...ain't happening this time baby..it is time to pay the piper.-
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CactusAnnie8 months, 2 weeks ago
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OK, if suddenly everything is so hunky-dory why do you think that in the last few weeks, so far, 16 different States have all introduced bills and resolutions declaring their sovereignty over Obama’s actions in light of the 10th Amendment.
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Why do you suppose they feel the need to do that?
So far, here is the list, I am sure more will be following suit in the near future:
Washington, New Hampshire, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Georgia, South Carolina, Texas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Kansas, Indiana, and West Virginia.
You think they are just playing around, maybe? Maybe they do not have anything better to do. Oh, I know, maybe America IS speaking.-
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fiftynine8 months, 2 weeks ago
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"16 different States have all introduced bills and resolutions declaring their sovereignty "....Let me know how that goes ..ok..
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It light of Obama..lol..How about in light of bushboys inability to do anything to stop illegals..
"“ The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. ”
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CactusAnnie8 months, 2 weeks ago
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The problem is Obama and the current administration are overstepping their bounds and disregarding the 10th Amendment, among other things.
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The Tennessee legislature says (HJR 108) “it [was] time to affirm state sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and demand the federal government halt its practice of assuming powers and of imposing mandates upon the states for purposes not enumerated by the Constitution,”
:Kentucky: “introduced House Concurrent Resolution 168… serving notice to the federal government to cease mandates beyond its authority.”
The states are are taking a stand against tyranny and the abuse of power. They are citing the 10th Amendment on a state level against abuses of power by the federal government, and doing it with appeals to the extra-constitutional writings of our Founding fathers because of the abuse and disregard that has started happening in the last few weeks..
Indiana’s resolution quotes Alexander Hamilton, a Federalist and Founder who “expressed his hope that ‘the people will always take care to preserve the constitutional equilibrium between the general and the state governments.’” Hamilton “believed that ‘this balance between the national and state governments forms a double security to the people. If one [government] encroaches on their rights, they will find a powerful protection in the other. Indeed, they will both be prevented from over-passing their constitutional limits by [the] certain [rivalry] which will ever subsist between them.’”
Kansas’ Senate Concurrent Resolution No. 1609 reminds the Obama administration, as well as the House and Senate, that “the scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the state.” In other words, the federal government exists by and for the states, not the other way around.
I could go on and on, but you can do your own research. You have enough basic facts to start down the trail by yourself.
Bon voyage...Happy trails to you.
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fiftynine8 months, 2 weeks ago
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How easy it is for you all to forget the raygun years...bush 1 (read my lips,bushboy years and the damage they did to this country...And after that kind of corporate takeover promoted by them..you choose to blame a democrat president that has been in office two months...You do realize how totally insane that makes you appear don't you?
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You see..i look at you and the anti American scum i see on here and wish that i could fight a war with you..then concentrate on AQ...You all have played right into their hands..you spout enough propaganda for AQ to just set back and let you attack this country with out lifting a pen.
You have coulter and rush and a handful of other so called conservative hate mongers making the script for you to follow,and you do it so well...You are more of a threat to this country than AQ could ever be.You are the real terrorist.-
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truthiness8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Both Obama and Carter were following the teachings of Keynes, which nearly every President from FDR to Carter followed. In fact Nixon was quoted as saying, "...we're all keynesians now."
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When carter took office we were headed into a boom caused by a number of unprecedented factors including the effects of the civil rights, women's lib, and de facto currency on household incomes all at the same time. Carter responded according to doctrine by raising interest rates and taxes to slow inflation.
Then we got hit with an oil embargo which raised prices just as taxes and interest rates we're going up.. causing stagflation.
When Reagan took office he declared Keynesian economics dead, and pushed deficit spending. The effect of his plan was short term prosperity mortgaged on long term debt creating bubble/bust cycles.
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fiftynine8 months, 2 weeks ago
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LOLOL...."Reagan knew what he was doing. Obama is just floundering."...
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You had better go back and read history....Beginning with raygun we have lost almost four million manufacturing jobs ,roughly one third of our manufacturing force..,The trickle down never trickeled down..just up and continued that climb under bush one and bushboy...He was losing it mentally and you say he knew what he was doing...
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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I miss the days of liberals saying things like: "Who needs terrorist attacks to destroy our country, when we have Bush and Cheney living within the walls of Washington."
Do you really believe that all liberals are anti-American? I mean, I feel that many things done in the name of Conservatism are not what I think this country should stand for (so some could call them Anti-American), but I try to never make the mistake of actually believing the people who believe that way are actively trying to destroy America.
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tadair9198 months, 2 weeks ago
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its not just the rank-and-file liberals who stand behind a One World Goverment. It's the necons. It's the Cheneys, the Bushes, the Kissingers, and the Bryzinskys.
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There are globalists in both so-called parties.
It took us 8 years to finally decide that the Republican Party was infiltrated with neocons. How long is it going to take us to realize that the Democratic Party is infested with globalists, too?-
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Daylight8 months, 2 weeks ago
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FairNBalanced
Who needs terrorist attacks to destroy our country, when we have liberals living within the walls of Washington.
Biggest terrorists are the leaders of Western world and most of them are in the US. It is America that is terrorizing the world, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia and Palestine are shining examples of the American terrorism where innocent people are being killed in dozens on a daily basis and they are labeled as terrorists. -
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jaspersneed8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Yeah, well that's precisely the problem: those are the "groups" you have to watch out for -- the ones that everyone in the upper echelons of national governance (here and in other nations) belongs to, but that have no OFFICIAL ties with the government. THOSE groups are the worst kind....
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And by "daisy chain" i only meant it in the mildest sense as a sexual allusion. To put a finer point on it, for daisy chain think instead: "very, VERY sophisticated phone tree."
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alakazam8 months, 2 weeks ago
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http://www.cfr.org/about/mission.html
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alakazam8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Candida8 months, 2 weeks ago
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FTA: "In not yet 100 days, Obama and Company have almost destroyed this country."
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That's a joke. He has inherited an already destroyed country. His predecessor did a very thorough job. He will have to work very hard to rebuild its economy and its reputation.
As far as supervising American financial institutions goes, it's about time. The US has caused enough damage to the rest of the world. It needs supervision.-
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Endoscopy8 months, 2 weeks ago
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And the Democrats destroyed it. LOL
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CRA etc. Refusing to fix the mortgage mess before it blew up. Fannie and Freddy have no problems according to Barney Frank 2003 - 2005. But then he earned the money they gave him and some other Democrats. -
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Daylight8 months, 2 weeks ago
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FTA: "In not yet 100 days, Obama and Company have almost destroyed this country."
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That's a joke. He has inherited an already destroyed country. His predecessor did a very thorough job. He will have to work very hard to rebuild its economy and its reputation.
As far as supervising American financial institutions goes, it's about time. The US has caused enough damage to the rest of the world. It needs supervision.
Well said Candida. There is noting mush Obama can do in a couple of months what has been done to it in decades. Neocons will never ever realize their follies and they they ignorantly believe that they are always right and others are always wrong.
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djn3nunez38 months, 2 weeks ago
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Balderdash and hype. Here's my favorite line:
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" Obama officially announced the reduction in US nuclear weaponry, so that Iran will be more amenable to sitting down to talk with the US. In other words, he’s again announced to the world that the USA is no longer a threat to anyone—let alone terrorists. "
Yes after the reduction we will be like beggars in the streets....
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calitennflo8 months, 2 weeks ago
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We have one body to recognize, one realm, one place...rather; lets put it this way...one Earth.
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Our sovereignty was a lie , at best...self-governing? Now I see someone that see's we all deal the end result in this-place...not just the US. Push one man...and you pushed the world....all of us. -
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truthiness8 months, 2 weeks ago
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I believe Bush is a criminal, but I do not believe he is a nefarious villain. He saw himself as a patriot doing what was best for America.
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Similarly, Obama sees himself as doing the best thing. Even if you think he is wrong, stupid, criminal, whatever, you have to accept that he is not twirling his mustache and laughing about how he "will show them all!"
One of the reasons we can not make progress in recent decades is the adversarial nature of our politics.
We know that there are people involved in the global economy who have stated a preference for a global government.
We know there are many who have stated a preference for local government.
We know mixed systems are possible, usual in fact.
Would a global trade confederacy with local politics be bad? If we just did it without planning it would. If we let a small group of people plan it in secret it definitely will be.
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canadianrancher578 months, 2 weeks ago
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I believe that the title to this article is more of the opinion of the author than the actual facts of the story, we have a global economy and a global finace system whether we wish to believe it or not, govenment debt is bought by many countries of the world to keep economies going and many investment vehicles like hedge funds are sold worldwide. To me part of the agreement that was signed was so that everyone was playing by the same rules. This article was printed in the Canadian Free Press by a person who dislikes President Obama because he is not a conservative and yet up here in Canada we have a conservative government and our finance minister said just last week that we were following the lead of the US. because it was the right policy to follow at this time.
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Maybe the reason we are all in this mess has to do with not politicians of political parties and ideologies but with government in general. To me the fact is that we no longer control government but government controls us, there is an adgenda that is being pushed by certain people in our countries and these people support all parties so its a win-win situatiion for them. I don't like what Obama is doing down there as a Democrat and I don't like what the Harper is doing up here as a conservative.-
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truthiness8 months, 2 weeks ago
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if a political body has regulatory control of our markets (according to this story) and regulatory control of our money (according to another story, which does not posit that as definite) then how are they not the government?
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isn't the reason the tenth amendment failed to maintain state sovereignty is the federal government controlled the money?
whether Obama intends to be doing so or not, he is handing control of the nation to another body with these policies.... theoretically.-
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Pecossam8 months, 2 weeks ago
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truthiness,
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You ask: "Isn't the reason the tenth amendment failed to maintain state sovereignty is the federal government controlled the money?"
The Civil War did the worst damage to the Ninth & Tenth Amendment. This was followed by the Federal Reserve Act, signed (to his later regret) by President Woodrow Wilson. At about this same time, the 16TH Amendment (Income Tax) was ratified by the States, after the people were assured that it would only apply to the "RICH" (those making $10,000.00 or more. We all know how that worked out, don't we?) Then along came FDR, and when his New Deal policies were found to be unconstitutional, he hatched a scheme to "Pack the Court". This plan and some other political pressure "convinced" the Justices to change their minds. They miraculously found that the "Commerce Clause" in our Constitution would permit the Federal government to do about anything they wished when it came to over-riding States Rights. So much for "stare decisis". Freedom is not always suddenly lost. It can happen incrementally, especially when the edifice to be altered or destroyed is strongly built upon a firm foundation, as our Nation was. We are now at the point in our history when Constitutional Principles are no longer accurately taught ( as per their legislative intent) and teachers have (for the most part) become purveyors of Leftist propaganda, though I would say most of them do not realize it, for they never studied the Constitution either. They pass on what they have been taught at whatever Teacher's University they attended, whose tenured professors are the Children of the Sixties, with all the radical baggage that includes.
We will soon be slaves to Socialism, but Our Republic had a good run.
But wait! There is a way to bring about the recovery of our Nation: Download a copy of the Constitution, STUDY IT (as per the ORIGINAL MEANINGS of the Founding Fathers, especially James Madison, the author of MOST of that fine document) and SHARE it with your friends, especially when you hear them incorrectly go out in "LEFT Field" when they're "explaining" what a certain Constitutional phrase means.
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Darn those liberal teachers I had! Forcing me to read not only the US Constitution, but the Constitutions of other countries, and to read opposing viewpoints, and histories written by non-Americans.
But thank goodness YOU know that it's not really their fault. They're so brainwashed they don't even know it. They like little Neo in "The Matirx" before he swallows the pill.
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Gotta watch the sarcasm. It could be considered rude, and certainly doesn't foster communication.
It's late, I'm tired, and I do so hate stereotyping.
Plus, sarcasm rarely works on propeller.
Tomorrow. There's always tomorrow. (Well, so far anyway.)
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Pecossam8 months, 2 weeks ago
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ForrestPhelps,
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A college degree was once something to be proud of, for the "sheepskin" assured others (especially employers), that the possessor was educated (not indoctrinated, as is so often the case today). I know this because all during my working-life I've had many an occasion where I had to correct a college graduate's mistake, especially in English ( lack of subject/verb agreement), Geography (one made reservations to the wrong country because she'd confused it with another), and other mistakes a college graduate should not make. This shows a lack of education, would you not agree? There are those who still manage to acquire an education out of what mostly pass as diploma mills, despite their offering "Ultimate Frisbee" and other "Mickey Mouse" courses. It's amazing what a thirst for knowledge and perseverance can accomplish. There was an office I once worked at in the mid-1990s where a fellow employee (a night-college student, who shall remain anonymous) was offering MBAs for $5,000.00, with minimal attendance required. So much for the worth of that degree.
As for Harvard being a "Teacher's University", I never mentioned it in my posting. Did you fail reading comprehension in college, or were you not offered that as a remedial course? Pity.-
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Ah, Pecossam. Of all the tasks I face, the one I find most difficult is remaining civil when attacked in a juvenile way. I don't mind being attacked with wit and cunning - but to be accused of the pedestrian fault of lacking "reading comprehension" skills - oh, the ignominy!
Some solace I find in the irony. Your own lack of comprehension has betrayed you. Specifically, you wrote:
"They pass on what they have been taught at whatever Teacher's University they attended, whose tenured professors are the Children of the Sixties, with all the radical baggage that includes."
So I commented, using an unwise attempt at sarcasm as my motif , and unwise because I was mentally exhausted. The point of that post was simply this: I was educated by numerous "Children of the Sixties", one of whom held a Ph.D. from Harvard. He was an avowed liberal, a Constitutional Law expert not only of the US Constitution, but also considered an expert on the Constitutions / Legal Systems of many other countries.
Again, my sarcasm was ill-advised. I almost immediately (20 minutes if the Propeller timestamps are accurate) realized I had posted in haste, and that my post in response to you could be construed as rude. So I apologized, in advance.
Ah, well. Can we now converse?
Is it really your contention that most colleges and universities in the US are staffed by indoctrinated liberals and that the education they dispense is worth not much more than a diploma mills offers?-
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ForrestPhelps8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Is negging my comment the best you can do?
I'm not trying to fight, just discuss. I'll play nice if you will, but you did raise my ire.
Again, I apologize. The purpose of these forums is to discuss and thereby (maybe) learn a little. No need for anger.-
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Pecossam8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Yesterday I tried not once, not twice, but thrice to reply to you. Each time my comment was completed, I then pressed "reply". The comment never showed up again for final approval. Each one simply vanished into the great maw of Propeller, which seems to happen VERY FREQUENTLY since the "up-grade'. I believe you have had similar experiences, haven't you?
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Daylight8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Ronald Reagan emphasized, America is a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere."
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His America is dead long before he died and America was to be buried when George Bush was elected. Present America is controlled by Zionists oppressors of the world. A country approved torture, invasion, occupation and secret prisons throughout the world can never claim to be anything but evil. -
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ltewdiaz8 months, 2 weeks ago
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All I have to say is that this was all prewritten over 2000 years ago. You can all find it in the book of Revelations. I am not a religius person but I am a christian and I believe the bible. All we can do is pray for this country and the rest of the world.
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CRYMTYPHON8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Belief is no substitute for being correct;
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and if you hope you are right without using your mind,
your faith is only in the hope you get lucky..
There is no conviction,
without thinging about what you believe.
In this case it means reading the paper, the news, the thoughts of the speakers,
and the history of nations in the last 2000 years, - and their probable future
in the next 3000 years.
I know, - that is harder work than playing with Revelations;
welcome to grownup-land.
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dxxy4u8 months, 2 weeks ago
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This is one of the dumbest threads I've ever seen. And some of the bloggers are just as dumb. Obama is trying to get the USA back to the standing it had in NATO, before dumb arsse George " Going It Alone" Bush snubbed NATO and invaded defenseless Iraq. Tell me how in Hell is being in NATO that we've been in for almost FIFTY YEARS, giving up the US's Sovereignty? It's protecting our Sovereignty.
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Mikunited8 months, 2 weeks ago
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In a World of Multi-Nationals,it makes sense to have some Global regulation.Of course the vast bulk of regulation,will still be in the hands of individual nations.In a Global situation,global solutions are necessary.
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As for the USA cutting it's number of warheads,it's sensible.There is still enough mega tonnage to wipe everything out,more than once.Nukes are not devices to fight terrorists with,they are W MD's.Terrorists,typically work in small groups,that are already inside the nations they wish to harm.
As for Obama being prepared to talk to Syria and maybe Iran,it can only be a good thing.The west has good relations with Saudi Arabia,which is hardly a glowing example of democracy.So why not Syria and Iran.The best way to defeat enemies,is to make them your friends.As Churchill said "jaw jaw is better than war war -
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bgern408 months, 2 weeks ago
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I never in my wildest dreams thought that I would see the down fall of the greatest country on earth.America. OBAMA,Pelosi,Frank and Reid will do what the Germans And Japan
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Couldnt.Our only hope lies in the fact that we are armed.Obama will bankrupt us.We will fall like the soviet union and dissinegrate.These people are just the begining of the NAZI democrate party of America-
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karymari2558 months, 2 weeks ago
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I never in my wildest dreams thought that I would see the down fall of the greatest country on earth.America. OBAMA,Pelosi,Frank and Reid will do what the Germans And Japan
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Couldnt.Our only hope lies in the fact that we are armed.Obama will bankrupt us.We will fall like the soviet union and dissinegrate.These people are just the begining of the NAZI democrate party of America
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loading ... bush added more than 6 trillion $ to our national debt and nothing to show for the money . bush left our economy in shambles , because of total lack of oversight of banks and wallstreet now people like you blame obama for a mess your incompetent bush is responceable for
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MILITA8 months, 2 weeks ago
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I am not jumping to conclusions but will wait and
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see what happens. At first, I thought Pres. Obama
was guilty as charged, but, hey, he returned the
bust of Winston Churchill which impressed me.
I do see the appearance of a NWO on the horizon
but the leader will be America: either Pres.Obama
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ruthsgardens8 months, 2 weeks ago
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It is a shame that most people on here cannot think for themselves.All this political party hatred crap is sickening.Sifting through their posts to read one by an intelligent person is time consuming.They act like they are a congress person on here and live their life vicariously through congressman.Not much different than a skinhead living his life vicariously through Hitler.Just as a gangbanger robs,kills and rapes because they want respect.Themselves and you people need to grow up and understand that respect is earned.Only an ignorant person would believe that everything just happened now.Or within the last 8 years.Or with the last 6 presidents.Every president,congress person, administration has done things and made decisions leading us to where we are now.The problem is americans have become complacent and let our government grow.Thomas Jefferson said we should be leery about career people in congress.And that has happened.With the advent of radio,tv,phones and the internet, we must blame ourselves for allowing them to remain there enlarging our government.All because of stupid party hatred and the waah,waah,waah and fingerpointing.It is time for a CHANGE.And not by what our president does,but by what we do.Americans have forgotten their role in the checks and balances system.
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karymari2558 months, 2 weeks ago
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your bush destoyed our country and capaitalism , just imagine
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what would have happend if the republicans had their way and all of our social security money would have been lost in the stock market. the republicans sold our country off to china and others . the guy with the money calls the tune -
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ruthsgardens8 months, 2 weeks ago
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The dream of the American Pie seems to be coming to an end.We made a good pie and the whole world wanted a piece of it.But now they want to take all of the pie and not leave any for us.I worked hard my whole life to help make this pie.And I would like to keep some pieces for myself.I don't mind sharing.But for years America has forced countries to eat our pie.And some of the people liked it and wanted more.But because our pie is getting smaller,America wants to teach people to make their own pie.But other countries have learned how to get our pie without making their own.And the cockroaches have started to multiply.So what does a baker do then?If he doesn't stop giving his pie away or letting others take it or the cockroaches to,he will not have enough to make another pie.
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CRYMTYPHON8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Hi jjcallahan!
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Barrack Hussein Obama is a best-selling author,
Harvard graduate, US senator and President,
who is off charming Europe while fixing the American
economy broken by the last admin.
If he is the village idiot,
- what does that make a Propeller troll?
Wouldn't that put you on the level of bacteria?
Paramecium in a funny hat?
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dukenukum20008 months, 2 weeks ago
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Well its a funny thing. Its coming to a point and rather quickly that everyone will have to choose a side. Those for morals and holding on to our fredoms and rights on one side and those that get on thier knees and give blows to liberals like Obama. You guys decide.
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donald518 months, 2 weeks ago
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duke, lots of decrepit morals from you repugs that supported torture, preemptive war, Gitmo, eavesdropping on Americans, the loss of 800 years of western law (habeas corpus), political assassination by hellfire missile, 1.2 million dead Iraqis for Dumya's ego to have one up on his dad, the indiscriminate rape of contractor women in the Green Zone, the rape of the middle class to make the ultra-rich richer, and 4 repug supreme court judges who support the "Unitary Executive" (but only if a repug is pres).
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HYPOCRISY!
when do actual convictions in three different repug adminstrations at the cabinet level (watergate, Iran Contra & Plamegate) demonstrate less moral depravity than an illicit affair between two consenting adults? Only in the un-American , turned-upside-down world of you repugs/conservatives/evangelicals!
Dumya even made sure the war on terror brought in another generation of terrorists to hate us... as he gave away the moral high ground through all his repug supported vices. What do you expect when Dumya was a white collar criminal who graduated to war criminal too?
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CRYMTYPHON8 months, 2 weeks ago
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You are, no doubt, an islamic terrorist typing into his laptop in a cave on the pakistan border.
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Your orders: insult the american president, sow seeds of suspicion and hatred among
the americans.
Didn't work.
Go kiss a camel*
* just kidding don't kiss a camel these creatures are sensitive and don't deserve that sort of thing leave the camels alone .
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CRYMTYPHON8 months, 2 weeks ago
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A plate is placed in front of you,
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served by RedRiverJ.
It is a plate of lies.
Will you eat?
The lie seems uneatable: that our President, for some impossible reason, wants to surrender the sovereignty of the nation he rules.
Why? Who knows, who cares. He's a secret one world marxist or something.
The article gives us no secret tapes discussing the turnover; it suffices to re-invents ordinary plans and treaties
to make them seem sinister and new.
And it covers that lie over with posters of Reagan,
pointing to the Shining City on the hill.
It is a beautiful image, that hill.
But what, exactly, is that city?
Who lives there?
What does it mean?
We live there.
It is America;
it is the place where free men and women decide the course
of their country, - and so they rule their own lives.
It shines against the dark;
and the dark is lies .
The enemies of freedom rule by fraud;
the light is truth.
This article is a petty hand of mud thrown against the
shining city walls.
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bobyedavis4 months, 4 weeks ago
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I AGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS THAT HELPS TO PROTECT OUR RIGHTS AND LAW AND ORDER STATE SOVERIGHTY IS THE MEANS TO STOP TYRANNY AND DICTATORSHIP. OUR CONSTITUTION HAS BEEN BEATEN AND TORN UNTIL NOW IT'S HANGS BY A SINGLE THREAD AND THAT THREAD IS OUR FRANCHISE TO VOTE. DEFEND THE 1ST AND 2ND AMEND TO DEFEND AMERICA FROM TYRANNY WHICH IS PRESENT IN THE GOVERNMENT. BUT OUR CICILIZATION AND OUR PEOPLE ARE SEEMINGLY AFRAID TO BE REVOLUTIONARY. WICH ARE YOU? FOR AMERICA OR AGAINST AMERICA
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