Has America Become A Post-Christian Nation? »
Posted By Revelation1412 8 months ago in ReligionA stunning new survey shows that most religions in the United States are losing members rapidly. According to the survey, the percentage of self-identified Christians in the U.S. has fallen 10 percentage points since 1990, from 86 percent of the population to 76 percent.
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smithichie8 months ago
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Post-Christian? This implies that America WAS a Christian Nation, which it never has been.
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Some of the early settlements in America were indeed Christian settlements, no choice of religion or how it is interpreted and had laws directly from The Bible. ie, laws against Christmas, laws against working on the Sabbath, laws against adultery and so on. Such laws are hardly seem American and with good reason, America has never been a Christian Nation. -
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vor8 months ago
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To me this is the single most important quote recorde on the subject:
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"Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination."
-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
This is the belief that shaped our nation. Made it all inclusive, certainly not Christian. Obviously by our national documents he made this very persuasive argument at a later time as well. -
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pokydoke8 months ago
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I think we are seeing the result of better education in this Country. People are now able to think for themselves and are rejecting the old standards. People can see the contradictions in the Bible, People can now understand that preachers and pastors are cherry picking Christianity to force a view point and they can appreciate the scams that many mega churches have become.
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StevieGee8 months ago
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One of the main problems I have with Christians is that they either think America is a Christian nation or want to make America a Christian nation. I've not found Christians to be more moral or trustworthy than any other group, in fact, many are less moral.
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toph19738 months ago
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I have not either. What I've witnessed is that the more devout someone is the more immoral they are. I'm not too sure if that comes from the Self reightousness of Christians, thinking they have thir ticket punched to heaven. Or does it come from the pulpit? I'm not too sure, but I don't think that their god would be to happy that there the vast majority of people worshipping them ate racist, bigoted and highly intolerant.
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isyouso4 months, 4 weeks ago
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i am from a moslem biggest country...and they are not really that nice like what they say or show to other countries. some of them really like beast and they using their religion to force others ... so not only Christian like you said that has less moral. To be honest i have talked to many Christian from america and europe and they have show more respect instead of the moslem....... this is based on my life experience living in the biggest moslem country
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hamy8 months ago
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As people experience more and more of the world rather than wall themselves off in small communities, they see that there are other religions that may work better for them. Or they find that no religion can relate to their personal world view. I, for one, am glad to see the numbers declining but I would rather see their politicizing of religion come to an end. Jesus wasn't a republican or a democrat.
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willottica8 months ago
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I consider myself a Christian... but think that most of the things in the article that "true Christians" are supposed to believe are a bunch of hooey.
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*Believing that absolute moral truth exists
-- I believe this. And I believe that a lot of people's claims to 'absolute moral truths' are based on their own opinions.
*Believing that the Bible is completely accurate in all of the principles it teaches
-- I don't think it possibly can be. It contradicts itself.
*Believing that Satan is considered to be a real being or force, not merely symbolic
-- On and off with this. Some deeds seem to be pure evil, and hard to explain without such a being. Yet even Satan isn't supposed to be pure evil, he was just an angel that disagreed with God.
*Believing that a person cannot earn their way into heaven by trying to be good or by doing good works
-- count me out of the believers club on this one. Jesus made it quite clear with the story of the sheep and the goats that it was good deeds to others that counted. You didn't need to be aware of the presence of Christ in order for them to matter.
*Believing that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth
-- This is irrelevant to me. There's 30 years of his life unaccounted for. Does he need to be sinless during all this time for his life to be an example to all? I don't think so.
*Believing that God is the all-knowing, all-powerful creator of the world who still rules the universe today.
-- Even the author of this article doesn't believe that God is all-powerful. He claims that God couldn't have found another way to forgive our sins. The power to forgive is relatively insignificant compared to some of the other stuff God is supposed to have done. Heck, even you and I have that power.-
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wtagg8 months ago
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The whole forgiveness thing is troubling for me. It is bailout, pure and simple.
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Ironic that Christians are all for their spiritual bailout, but not for other bailouts.
I'm with you on the deeds thing. Judge me by what I do. Talk is cheap and the whole *I am a believer* is nothing but talk. If God cares if I haven't bowed down before him, then I have no use for him. Or her. Or it.
As I have said before countless times, I'd be proud to sit next to the Good Samaritan, wherever that may be.
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Commodore18 months ago
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Our nation was built on Christian laws and values as were others around the world. W/these foundations crumbling and nothing to replace, rebuild or support them our whole society could crumble into chaos or worse yet...disappear. These are dangerous times for the world w/conditions being ripe for a takeover or a coup or just plain anarchy. I hope there's something strong and decent to rebuild our foundations.
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pokydoke8 months ago
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I think you are just giving us your opinion and as usual your opinion is skewed with bad information. We are not a Christian nation we are a nation with many Christians as citizens. WE are a nation of laws that were written by men and we will continue to be a nation of citizens bound by laws written by man even if Christianity disappears entirely. Despite your protestations I doubt we will fall into anarchy because we fail to pay obeisance to your god.
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alakazam8 months ago
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That is the Truth.
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You are Free to Worship or not. If you so choose take your pick of God or Gods.
It's not up to anyone else which you choose.
I am sick to my gut that Americans quibble so over religion.
It's just pitiful.
Freedom of Religion....Remember that...That's your Right in this Country. You can Believe whatever you like about God.
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david_nwpa8 months ago
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The premise of the article is flawed completely. It presumes that America was a Christian nation at some point in our history. Neither our nation, nor our government have ever endorsed a specific belief in God, let alone a Christian God. As a result, we have never been Christian, and thus, cannot be post-Christian now.
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