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antibrainwasher8 months, 1 week ago
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I'm amazed at how stupid the platform of independents is, I'd say 90 of independents are just casino capatilist rppublicans, who were incapable of the stupidity to vote for caribu barbie.
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Independents are incapable of doing anything but bitching about what ever party is in power, thinking that if there just was no government regulation or taxes, they could have their little fudalistic fiefdom, tax free.
But what would happen, is what happened in fuedalistic europe during the dark ages, no federal oversight, states making their own law, warloard billionairs making their own law, deciding who lives and dies and who gets rich (their sons and daughters).
We have evolved politically from the dark ages, independents who bitch and whine and do nothing but feed the asperations of the casino capatalists who would destroy the middle class contribute nothing.-
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vor8 months, 1 week ago
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As usual crude but correct. Of course the obvious answer to the title is NO! H-ll No!
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Obama is doing what must be done. And I am sure he is disregarding these shrill cries just as he hopefully is completely ignoring the useless rhetoric of the Right.-
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willottica8 months, 1 week ago
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No, he wasn't making an idiotic comment.
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The "mistake" of invading Iraq when no WMDs were to be found will stay forever. Even when (if) the country is eventually returned to stability and productivity, the damage to America's reputation will not disappear.
The American government employed a massive propaganda campaign to justify the war, and the public bought into it. I've heard statistics that immediately after the attack on 9/11, something in the neighborhood of 10% of Americans believed there had been Iraqi involvement. By the time the US invaded Iraq, the number of Americans who believed Iraq had been involved in 9/11 was greater than 50%.
That's sad. That's propaganda. The kind criticized by Americans when it was used extensively in the USSR. Deliberately misleading.
The propaganda campaign was not a "mistake". Failing to find WMD was not a "mistake". Using it as a premise to start a war was a mistake.-
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tanglang8 months, 1 week ago
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For 10 years we had reason after reason to invade Iraq. Saddam violated his treaties more times than you have cried about Bush on here.
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And screw our reputation. Why would you screw yourself so that everyone else thinks you're cool?-
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willottica8 months, 1 week ago
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"For 10 years we had reason after reason to invade Iraq"
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...and yet none of them were good enough to actually use as justification. Curious.
I know you've screwed your reputation.
Why would you screw yourself to the point where you look like a bully and other nations will be unwilling to help if/when you need it? This isn't about looking "cool"; this is about upholding the values that people used to think the US represented.-
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tanglang8 months, 1 week ago
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All of them were good enough reasons to go to war. It's that then President Clinton was too busy to do what was necessary. And what did both he and his wofe do upon leaving office? They told President Bush that he needed to stop Saddam. I've posted the video links from this a dozen times. You can find them on Youtube.com
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Side note. President Bush was just credited with saving 1.2 million lives in Africa due to his aids research policies!!!
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tanglang8 months, 1 week ago
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400,000 Kurds would beg to differ. And those American families (mine included) know that our loved ones fought and died for what was right. The ultimate sacrifice is giving your life to ensure that someone else (you don't even know) gets to keep theirs. These soldiers are heroes. And we know that and love them for it.
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wtagg8 months, 1 week ago
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Who said the weren't heroes?
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What is funny is that some are anxious to support fighting for others outside of this country, but have issues fighting for those that belong to this country.
Interesting that you seem to discount the friendly fire casualties djn has suggested.
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tanglang8 months, 1 week ago
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"What is funny is that some are anxious to support fighting for others outside of this country, but have issues fighting for those that belong to this country."
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When have I not wanted to fight for Americans?
Friendly Fire is a very sad thing that should not happen. The soldiers who have been killed by FF are no less heroes.
What is right is standing up to tyranny. After the first gulf war we promised the people of that region that we wouldn't let Saddam commit any more atrocities. We made him sign treaties to keep him in line. For a decade he ignored the treaties and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of his own people. We should all be embarrassed that it took us so long to do what was right and remove his family from power.-
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wtagg8 months, 1 week ago
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Why Iraq and not a dozen other countries? Why Iraq, a former ally that we supported and turned a blind eye to when it suited us?
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We create the problem we then try to solve.
I have a truly conservative answer. Don't create the problem to begin with.-
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tanglang8 months, 1 week ago
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Why Iraq? Because we promised the people in the ME in the early 90's that we would not allow Saddam to act the way we allowed him to act in the 90's.
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How exactly did we create the problem? Are you saying that we should have not gotten involved in the first gulf war? -
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vor8 months, 1 week ago
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I would simply say ceding control of our foreign policy to the neocons specifically Cheney. I doubt Obama will be able to repair the damage done from that act alone in four, much less eight years. Yet he is already beginning to repair our standing with the rest of the world.
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They now have a President they can respect if not totally agree with. Perhaps with the exception of Sarkozy who misses his soul mate GW. Funny how much the Right once and still really hates the French (remember) with the notable exception of this man. -
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