Celebrating The Secular: Obama Says U.S. Is Not A Christian Nation »
Posted By bruhaha 10 months, 1 week ago in Political NewsThe United States was not founded as a Christian nation. Nothing in the Constitution grants Christianity favored status. In fact, Article VI bans religious tests for federal office, and the First Amendment bars laws "respecting an establishment of religion" while protecting "the free exercise thereof" - for all faiths.
It's good to hear political leaders remind us of this fact from time to time, as President Barack Obama did yesterday during a press conference in Turkey.
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tadair91910 months ago
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If this is not convincing proof that America was founded as a Christian nation, consider the following statements written by the framers themselves:
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ï George Washington wrote, "It is impossible rightly to govern the world without God and the Bible."
ï Patrick Henry, who must have known that one day Americans would doubt the Christian foundation of the nation, wrote, "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."
ï James Madison, who must have known that one day Americans might question the constitutionality of the Ten Commandments in the federal milieu, stated, "We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all our political institutions upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."
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NoWayMan10 months ago
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first you have to ask yourself, if the US was truly founded as a Christian nation, then why was God mentioned ZERO TIMES in the origianal constitutiion? the only time any religious reference is made at all is in the dating of the document (in the year of our lord...)
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but the mentioning of God, or lack thereof, was obviously a conscious, intentional move by our founding fathers.
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george washington.
washington was a deist, not a christian. and although he attended services regularly and believed in God, he never took communion, and would actually physically leave the church before communion, leaving his wife behind since she was a regular communicant.
Bishop William White, one of the rectors at Washington's same church, verified this. In an August 15, 1835 letter, White wrote: "In regard to the subject of your inquiry, truth requires me to say that Gen. Washington never received the communion in the churches of which I am the parochial minister."
then, after Reverend James Abercrombie, (another pastor at the same church) chose to criticize Gen. Washington (though indirectly) in a sermon on Public Worship and how those in elevated stations uniformly turned their backs upon the celebration of the Lord's Supper, Gen. Washington responded by never showing up for sunday church again!!!
so, doesn't sound like a christian to me.
and when it comes to the idea of a christian nation...
Toward the end of his second term, Washington sent diplomat Joel Barlow to Tripoli to cobble out a treaty to halt piracy. in article 11 of that treaty, it says, in plain english, that "the Government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion...”
this treaty was finalized after John Adams became president. before ratification the treaty was read aloud, word for word, on the floor of the senate, and not one person objected to the language used to describe the US as NOT a christian nation.
the treaty was passed unanimously.
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Endoscopy10 months ago
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Obama has his head where the sun don't shine on this one. We are definately a Christian nation and have been since the country was settled by the Pilgrims and Puritans. Both groups coming here so they could practice their Christian beliefs the way they felt led by studying the Bible. The Judeo Christian values are all over the Constitution and the basic laws of this country. Those trying to say different have to make up a different history that the real one we have. The Federalist papers and other writings of those founding fathers of the country say something completely different. They always point to Jefferson and one or two others and ignore that the overwhelming majority of them were Christians and wrote that it was part and parcel of this country.
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Another thing that these people ignore is that 75% of the people in this country think of themselves as Christians. -
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truthiness10 months ago
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so how do you respond to this point in the article which refers to the only official government statement by the founders (Adams for example) which specifically refers to Christianity?
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In 1797, the U.S. Senate endorsed -- and President John Adams signed -- the Treaty with Tripoli, a document stating forthrightly, "[T[he government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion...." It was reminder to the Muslim states of North Africa that religion need be no excuse for conflict.
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