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Posted By gamahuche 8 months, 2 weeks ago in NewsThe CIA will decommission the infamous "black sites" where terrorism suspects were interrogated with harsh techniques that included waterboarding, agency director Leon Panetta said on Thursday.
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gamahuche8 months, 2 weeks ago
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It's hard to imagine that this news could bring anything but intense relief to every human being on the planet.
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I cannot myself express joy about it because the shame that this ever took place at all is not in any way being expiated.
There is also a question in my mind about what may still be permitted and/or that someone might turn a blind eye to some continuing abuse.
The third caveat that I have is that, apart from what was being done in Guantanamo, the torture that was being carried out in various Middle Eastern countries was part of an ongoing "tradition" in those countries.
Finally - what reparations will be made? How will they be assessed? Nobody should ever be tortured but some of the victims are known to have been 100% innocent of any wrong-doing whatsoever and that cannot possibly be left unresolved. The solution? I don't know - do you?-
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gamahuche8 months, 2 weeks ago
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I won't diss you on that thought, though I'd prefer to believe that the intention is definitely there and that the devil is in the detail.
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However - when the intention has been stated at least we have a benchmark.
Keeping politicians to their promises may be as difficult as catching water in a sieve but its a metaphor for the never-ending challenge that is human life.
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gamahuche8 months, 2 weeks ago
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The second part of the equation is how this can become a path of healing also for the internal divisions within the US after a war that has stretched the US beyond all limits of tolerance and has fragmented the nation like no other issue of the last half century - even including the murders of JFK and his brother and Martin Luther King.
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While those shocks did affect the whole planet also they were fundamentally domestic in nature. The current imbroglio has affected the whole planet, crossed all boundaries and has shocked the world's perception of the US - and thereby of "Western democracy" beyond any limits. Is the US's reputation redeemable or not? I believe that only time will tell. -
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berkeley8 months, 2 weeks ago
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seems like george tenet, porter goss, and michael hayden all formally denied that such sites even existed. since they couldn't lie, they must have been mistaken. some MEP's in the european parliament tried to uncover the details but bush and rice fought them every step of the way.
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the cia has tortured people for decades, especially in south and central america. if panetta really put a stop to it, he might have a boating accident, so it's difficult to take his statement as absolute. still, it's better than the opposite policy of expanding abuse that has happened for the past eight years. -
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