GOP R.I.P. »
Posted By Progressive 8 months, 2 weeks ago in Political NewsConservative radio host John Batchelor says it's obvious: His Republican Party is a corpse. And its response to the financial crisis reveals how and when it died.
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Poulenc8 months, 2 weeks ago
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trnscndr8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Couldn't help but to dance on a grave. It appears the GOP is incapable of adapting and purging itself of those elements who continue to drag them down in the polls. There seems to be no room for a fiscally conservative Republican who doesn't also carry a cross.
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Even real Christians should disavow the conservative hate-monger among them, yet somehow this vocal minority consistently speaks for the whole party and the few moderate republican who remain cower every time any of the "vocalists" speak. If the GOP could truly purge the Nazis and bigots among them as the Democrats did (the Dixiecrats, now the religious right within the GOP), then like the Dems, they would eventually rebuild to a competitive status... as did the Dems.
One thing is for sure, they are stubborn and paralyzed like deer in the headlights, except they think growling will scare off the car. I love deer so I don't want to go too far with the analogy, but some of my best friends are Republicans and intelligent and good people, but where can they go if they are intellectually honest? Admittedly, there is no intellectual space-compatibility and they may have to pursue a third party if they can't reclaim their own.
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hyperbola8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Before you celebrate too much, remember that the Obama administration is continuing with (even worsening) many of the practices of the Bush administration. Unless we up the pressure and force a major turnaround in constitutional, foreign policy and "financial" policies of the Obama administration, it won't be long before one can also celebrate the demise of the Democratic party.
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Scathing Criticism of Obama's Secrecy/Immunity Claims
Several weeks ago, I noted that unlike the Right -- which turned itself into a virtual cult of uncritical reverence for George W. Bush especially during the first several years of his administration -- large numbers of Bush critics have been admirably willing to criticize Obama when he embraces the very policies that prompted so much anger and controversy during the Bush years... Last night, Keith Olbermann -- who has undoubtedly been one of the most swooning and often-uncritical admirers of Barack Obama of anyone in the country (behavior for which I rather harshly criticized him in the past) -- devoted the first two segments of his show to emphatically lambasting Obama and Eric Holder's DOJ ...
The fact that Keith Olbermann, of all people, spent the first ten minutes of his show attacking Obama for replicating (and, in this instance, actually surpassing) some of the worst Bush/Cheney abuses of executive power and secrecy claims reflects just how extreme is the conduct of the Obama DOJ here....
This is quite encouraging but should not be surprising. As much as anything else, what fueled the extreme hostility towards the Bush/Cheney administration were their imperious and radical efforts to place themselves behind an impenetrable wall of secrecy and above and beyond the rule of law. It would require a virtually pathological level of tribal loyalty and monumental intellectual dishonesty not to object just as vehemently as we watch the Obama DOJ repeatedly invoke these very same theories and, in this instance, actually invent a new one that not even the Bush administration espoused.
To be clear: there are important areas in which Obama has been quite commendable, and I've personally praised him fairly lavishly for those actions (see, for instance, here, here and here), but it is simply unacceptable -- no matter what else is true about him -- for Obama to claim for himself the very legal immunity and secrecy powers which characterized and enabled the worst excesses of Bush lawlessness. Yet in a short period of time, he has taken one step after the next to do exactly that....
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tadair9198 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Unless we up the pressure and force a major turnaround in constitutional, foreign policy and "financial" policies of the Obama administration, it won't be long before one can also celebrate the demise of the Democratic party."
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Now you're speaking my language!
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tadair9198 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Mark my words. If either Huckabee or McCain wins the Republican nomination it's going to be the end of the Republican Party!" --Rush Limbaugh
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Wrong Rush. Bush and Cheney killed it sometime during the first 2 years of tyranny.
But the true conservatives will be back to re-take the party now infested with neocon criminals.
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sinophil498 months, 1 week ago
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tadair - "But the true conservatives will be back to re-take the party now infested with neocon criminals."
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AMEN!!
It will be a welcome event. We will see the return of honest, civil, courteous political discourse and a re-united country
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tchef8 months, 2 weeks ago
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The Democratic party is enjoying success right now. The rhetoric of the two parties are different but neither seems to be capable of good governance. Both parties while out of favor act as the fiscal conservative railing against the spending of the other but once in power they both have spent like there is no tomorrow.
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cushi8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Or it could be that things have been fouled up so badly over the past 8 years that neither party can set them aright! The difference I see, is that one party is willing to give it a shot while the other wants to maintain the status quo, clinging stuboornly to its past mistakes.
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fjgalt8 months, 2 weeks ago
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If there is to be hope for the G.O.P., it must have all new faces who really believe in the Constitution. Any familiar Republicans -- Romney, Gingrich, etc. -- must disappear from public. They are the ones who have adopted the semi-fascist policies that both parties now endorse. The Democrats and Republicans are merely two sides of the same coin.
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The most intelligent and correct Republican is Ron Paul. Most Republicans have dismissed and ignore him. But his philosophy is what the country needs and will enable the G.O.P. to resurrect itself. New faces embracing Paul's ideas are needed, preferably younger, good-looking, well-spoken ones as Presidential and Congressinal races have become more like political "American Idol" contests. -
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