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"If there were ever a U.S. victim of one of these attacks or a U.S. shipping line that were a victim, our Justice Department has said that it would favorably consider prosecuting such apprehended pirates," Stephen Mull, the acting undersecretary of state for international security and arms control, told Congress last month.

Wow - prosecute!

How about saving the Captain?

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    ranchhasawhiteass7 months, 3 weeks ago
    
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    Amen propeller member. I agree.
    
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    nostalgia7 months, 3 weeks ago
    
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    I heard a discussion on this today
    As a law enforcement problem, the pirates can get life in prison!
    We'll get to support them for their lifetime!
    
    Jefferson and the Barbary pirates:
    
    Paying the ransom would only lead to further demands, Jefferson argued in letters to future presidents John Adams, then America's minister to Great Britain, and James Monroe, then a member of Congress. As Jefferson wrote to Adams in a July 11, 1786, letter, "I acknolege [sic] I very early thought it would be best to effect a peace thro' the medium of war." Paying tribute will merely invite more demands, and even if a coalition proves workable, the only solution is a strong navy that can reach the pirates, Jefferson argued in an August 18, 1786, letter to James Monroe: "The states must see the rod; perhaps it must be felt by some one of them. . . . Every national citizen must wish to see an effective instrument of coercion, and should fear to see it on any other element than the water. A naval force can never endanger our liberties, nor occasion bloodshed; a land force would do both." "From what I learn from the temper of my countrymen and their tenaciousness of their money," Jefferson added in a December 26, 1786, letter to the president of Yale College, Ezra Stiles, "it will be more easy to raise ships and men to fight these pirates into reason, than money to bribe them."
    
    http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/collections/jefferson_...
    
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      flyonthewallzz7 months, 3 weeks ago
      
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      If my memory serves me correctly Jefferson did for a time pay out 20% of our treasury to those dudes.
      A lot of Atheists like to quote from the "Treaty of Tripoli", but if you read it towards the end there is a long list of bling described for the tribute.
      
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    tanglang7 months, 3 weeks ago
    
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    Prop, apprehension and FBI investigations are a liberal president's approach to terrorists. Look at the 93 Trade Center bombing and our response to it. We investigated and apprehended the cell that was responsible for the attack but did nothing about the people who funded them or sent them here allowing them to grow stronger and attack again.
    If the FBI captures and arrests these terrorists what are they going to do with them? Put them on American soil since our idiot President is closing Gitmo is what they will do. What do they think, that there are not enough bad guys in our prisons so we should import more? The Navy and the Marines should be the ones to handle this, not the FBI.
    
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      ADAGUY7 months, 3 weeks ago
      
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      "We investigated and apprehended the cell that was responsible for the attack but did nothing about the people who funded them or sent them here allowing them to grow stronger and attack again."
      
      No, but we did leave the borders open so more of them could come in!
      
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        tanglang7 months, 3 weeks ago
        
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        Yeah. Another fault of our "leaders". Clinton, Bush, Obama and all of the rest.
        
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      flyonthewallzz7 months, 3 weeks ago
      
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      http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/04/12/american...
      
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    ADAGUY7 months, 3 weeks ago
    
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    Would you be advocating moving in and killing them if they had your son, daughter, or other family member hostage?
    
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      tanglang7 months, 3 weeks ago
      
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      YES!!! I sure as ish would! I would want the Navy to surround the row boat with destroyers and give some demands of our own. They would be "Give us back our guy or we'll not only blow your ass up but your entire shtty nation."
      Israel is the only nation on Earth who knows what to do when one of their own is kidnapped by terrorists.
      
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        ADAGUY7 months, 3 weeks ago
        
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        No you wouldn't, you would be bitching no matter how it was handled.
        
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        tanglang7 months, 3 weeks ago
        
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        Thanks for telling me what I would do. Can you tell me what tomorrow's lottery numbers are since you seem to be psychic?
        
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  Endoscopy7 months, 3 weeks ago
  
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  This is stupid. When is someone going to tell Obama that the FBI does not have jurisdiction. This is outside the US. It is the job of our armed forces. Jefferson dealt with these same kind of pirates in 1805 and later. He sent in the Marines and all of a sudden the Islamic Barbary Pirates were no longer Pirates. I guess these Islamic pirates need the same education. Or does Obama have the backbone to do what Jefferson did?
  
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    ADAGUY7 months, 3 weeks ago
    
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    didn't read the article, did ya?
    
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      tanglang7 months, 3 weeks ago
      
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      FTA "Under U.S. law, crimes aboard U.S. ships or against U.S. citizens can be prosecuted in U.S. courts, even when they occur in international waters."
      That's all fine and dandy but the problem is that the FBI can and will only go after the group who attacked the ship. We need to destroy every one of these terrorist pirates which the FBI does not have the jurisdiction or the manpower to do.
      This is a Navy/Marines solution.
      
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        ADAGUY7 months, 3 weeks ago
        
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        Get off you ass and look around. This was overwith one hour ago!
        
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        tanglang7 months, 3 weeks ago
        
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        No it isn't. There are still thousands of these terrorists floating around waiting to strike again. They still have control of 17 other ships in the region. Do you not care about that???
        
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    Will13137 months, 3 weeks ago
    
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    the FBI has jurisdiction in ANY CRIME .. ANYWHERE.. that involves Americans...or their property.. . get a clue..
    
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  ADAGUY7 months, 3 weeks ago
  
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  12:41 CST, Captain has been saved, three pirates dead, and a fourth in custody.
  Now how many of you have the balls to admit your pres did the right thing?
  I'm waiting..............................................
  
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    tanglang7 months, 3 weeks ago
    
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    If Obama has since given the Navy the authority to seek out and kill everyone of these terrorists in the region he has done the right thing. If he is saying "ok, we got our guy lets prosecute the captured pirate and be done with it" he is dead wrong!
    
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  epiphannyy7 months, 3 weeks ago
  
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  He has been rescued. Just because authorities are doing on thing doesn't mean they aren't doing anything else. Its called multitasking. The FBI is looking into this while the Navy was working on the rescue.
  
  That's the problem that we've faced in recent years...lack of a thorough focus on jobs needing done. Energies can be spread around, focus can be shared between agencies, and more than one stone can be turned at a time. That way the WHOLE job gets done instead of fixing an isolated leak in the boat while ignoring the huge hole ripped in the hull. It's good to see things are getting back to where they should be...finally.
  
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