The Story of a Successful Rescue (and a Democratic Administration’s Attempt to Claim Credit) - Jeff_Emanuel’s blog - RedState »
Posted By pc25 6 months, 4 weeks ago in NewsAfter four days of floating at sea on a raft shared with four Somali gunmen, Richard Philips took matters into his own hands for a second time. With the small lifeboat in which he was being held captive being towed by the American missile destroyer USS Bainbridge, and Navy Special Warfare (NSWC) snipers on the fantail in position to take their shots at his captors as soon as the command was given, the captive Captain of the M.V. Maersk-Alabama took his second leap in three days into the shark-infested waters of the Indian Ocean.
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pc256 months, 4 weeks ago
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http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/04/how-the-resc...
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I just finished listening to the press conference w/ ADM Gortney about the rescue of Captain Phillips. At the time it happened the USS Bainbridge was towing the lifeboat to calmer waters as the sea state was deteriorating. One of the pirates was on board the Bainbridge as the talks about obtaining Phillip's release continued. The lifeboat was approx. 25 m behind the Bainbridge when snipers on the fantail observed one of the pirates in the pilot house of the lifeboat pointing an AK-47 at the back of a tied up Phillips and the other two pirates on board were visible (at least shoulders and heads). The standing authority gave them clearance to engage the pirates if the life of the captain was in imminent danger. The on scene commander deemed this to be true and gave the order to fire. All three bad guys were taken out and then a rigid inflatable boat went to the lifeboat to retrieve Phillips. Iti is unknown at this point whether the shooters were SEALs or Marine Scout Snipers as both would have been available. This was not a rescue attempt ordered by National Command Authority i.e. the President. It was a reaction by the on scene commander under standard authority to safeguard the life of a hostage.
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nostalgia6 months, 4 weeks ago
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The administration is hoping that this doesn't get a lot of attention - they'll use the rescue to divert attention
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It's Actually Possible... The Patriot Act Gets Worse
Last Friday evening, in a motion to dismiss Jewel v. NSA, EFF's litigation against the National Security Agency for the warrantless wiretapping of countless Americans, the Obama Administration's made two deeply troubling arguments.
First, they argued, exactly as the Bush Administration did on countless occasions, that the state secrets privilege requires the court to dismiss the issue out of hand. They argue that simply allowing the case to continue "would cause exceptionally grave harm to national security." As in the past, this is a blatant ploy to dismiss the litigation without allowing the courts to consider the evidence.
It's an especially disappointing argument to hear from the Obama Administration. As a candidate, Senator Obama lamented that the Bush Administration "invoked a legal tool known as the 'state secrets' privilege more than any other previous administration to get cases thrown out of civil court." He was right then, and we're dismayed that he and his team seem to have forgotten.
Sad as that is, it's the Department Of Justice's second argument that is the most pernicious. The DOJ claims that the U.S. Government is completely immune from litigation for illegal spying — that the Government can never be sued for surveillance that violates federal privacy statutes.
This is a radical assertion that is utterly unprecedented. No one — not the White House, not the Justice Department, not any member of Congress, and not the Bush Administration — has ever interpreted the law this way.
http://my.auburnjournal.com/detail/111477.html
Wonder why the left on Propeller is so quiet about this?
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mesodude6 months, 4 weeks ago
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"On Tuesday, former Army Pvt. Jessica Lynch testified in Washington, D.C., about the real story of her capture and rescue while serving in Iraq in 2003."
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"Lynch was badly injured when her convoy was ambushed in Iraq in 2003. She was later rescued by American troops from an Iraqi hospital, but the tale of her ambush was changed into a story of heroism on her part. "
"At the hearing, the chairman of the House panel, Henry Waxman, accused the government of inventing "sensational details and stories" about Tillman's death and Lynch rescue. After she arrived home, Lynch set the record straight in a book called "I Am a Soldier, Too."
Jessica Lynch Sets Record Straight
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/25/earlysho...-
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Bruedaddy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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He GAVE the order to use force in necessary if the captain's life was in danger i.e. pirates pointing the AK AT the captain.....
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Be clear before you smear ...again PC
he gave the order but just didn't say when to pull the trigger
good enough for me
at least putz's like you have ANOTHER thing to whine about
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pc256 months, 4 weeks ago
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FTA
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The guidance from National Command Authority — the President of the United States, Barack Obama — had been clear: a peaceful solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff unless the hostage’s life was in clear, extreme danger.
The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the floating raft was fired on by the Somali pirates — and again no fire was returned and no pirates killed, thanks again to the cautious stance assumed by Navy personnel due to the combination of a lack of clear guidance from Washington, and a mandate from the Commander in Chief’s staff not to act until Obama, a man with no background of dealing with such issues and no track record of decisiveness, decided that any outcome other than a “peaceful solution” would be acceptable.-
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mesodude6 months, 4 weeks ago
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The toppling of the Saddam statue was a staged event
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"On April 9, 2003, the world awoke to see a statue of Saddam Hussein being destroyed in Baghdad. Bush equated this to the toppling of the Berlin Wall. What the press did not do was to show the entire context of the statue’s demise.
There were few Iraqis at the scene. The U.S. rented an audience by bringing in a few outsiders, including Ahmed Chalabi and his crew. When pictures of the setting were scrutinized, it showed that most of the people were from the press corps (the U.S. military rounded them up from local hotels) and U.S. military.
How about the heart-rendering picture of a muscular Iraqi breaking the base of the statue with a sledgehammer? He was Iraqi weightlifting champion Kadhim al-Jubouri.
Four years after his image was seen worldwide, al-Jubouri had a change of heart. In the article, "The Regrets of the Man Who Brought Down Saddam," published on March 19, 2007, by The Guardian:
Now on the fourth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, he (al-Jubouri) says, "I really regret bringing down the statue. The Americans are worse than the dictatorship. Every day is worse than the previous day."
Yet he now says he would prefer to be living under Saddam than under U.S. occupation. He said, "We no longer know friend from foe. The situation is becoming more dangerous."
THE WORLD’S BIGGEST LIES AND THE DISASTROUS RESULTS
http://www.tribalmessenger.org/t-media/saddam-stat...
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pc256 months, 4 weeks ago
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According to the articles, Obama wanted a peaceful solution........the Captain of the Bainbridge after being fired upon several times during the 4 days and now fearing for Capt Phillips life took matters into his own hands.........
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meanwhile this is how the left is trying to spin this today
Obama: I will continue to kick pirate ass
Or rather, per his malaprop, “private” ass. No, he didn’t order the attack that saved the captain but he didn’t forbid it either, contra righty fears that negotiation is Obama’s first, last, and only means of conflict resolution. Meanwhile, Jonah Goldberg’s innocuous two-line post last night congratulating The One on the mission’s success has inadvertently turned into a litmus test for early onset Obama Derangement Syndrome, with angry e-mailers and, allegedly, even Rush Limbaugh calling him out for the offense. Follow the last link and read the message he got from someone wondering, “Does rightwing media not know how to do propaganda?” Has it come to that?
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mesodude6 months, 4 weeks ago
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-Scandal puts spotlight on Christian law school Grads influential in Justice Dept.-
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"The title of the course was Constitutional Law, but the subject was sin. Before any casebooks were opened, a student led his classmates in a 10-minute devotional talk, completed with "amens," about the need to preserve their Christian values."
"One of those graduates is Monica Goodling , the former top aide to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales who is at the center of the storm over the firing of US attorneys. Goodling, who resigned on Friday, has become the face of Regent overnight -- and drawn a harsh spotlight to the administration's hiring of officials educated at smaller, conservative schools with sometimes marginal academic reputations.
Documents show that Goodling, who has asserted her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination to avoid testifying before Congress, was one of a handful of officials overseeing the firings. She helped install Timothy Griffin , the Karl Rove aide and her former boss at the Republican National Committee, as a replacement US attorney in Arkansas.
Because Goodling graduated from Regent in 1999 and has scant prosecutorial experience, her qualifications to evaluate the performance of US attorneys have come under fire. Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, Democrat of Rhode Island, asked at a hearing: "Should we be concerned with the experience level of the people who are making these highly significant decisions?"
---Wow...looks like cons have some very peculiar ideas about what it means to keep their country safe and law abiding. Hiring underachieving right wing religious zealots in $100K taxpayer funded federal government jobs-who knew that was an effective strategy? LOL
http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articl...
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pc256 months, 4 weeks ago
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Figures. Far Left Blog Says Capt. Phillips Was a Grandstander-- Should Have Acquiesced to Pirates
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http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/04/figures-...
The pirates' modus operandi is that they hold the crew, ship, and cargo harmlessly until a lot of money is paid to them. Phillips "heroic" actions put his crew and himself at risk. If he'd done nothing except acquiesce to the pirates' demands, there would have been no risk, just possible discomfort until the extortion money was paid. Instead he put himself and the Seals at grave risk.
I applaud the crew, the Seals, and the military chain of command for their actions. I think Phillips was in error--if not a grandstander, then greatly misguided. Does anyone know what Maersk's orders to Phillips and the other Maersk masters are in a piracy matter? Probably to do nothing to incite trouble and to notify the shipowner and the U.S. Navy. The captain works for the shipowner and must follow those orders. The master who fails to follow the shipowner's orders is guilty of the crime of barratry if a financial injury to the shipowner results.
Only on the left are heroes like Captain Phillips, who put his life in danger for the freedom of his men, called grandstanders.-
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mesodude6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Pat Tillman family, Jessica Lynch blow open Bush administration war deceit
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The searing congressional testimonies from the family of Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch may sound the long overdue death knell for mainstream American public support for the Bush administration and its criminal war.
Tuesday, one unwilling and outraged war poster child and the agonized family members of the other stood before Congress, looked the Bush administration in the eye, and said, “Enough.”
Kevin Tillman, who served with his brother, accused the Bush administration of intentional deceit.
The accounts of the Tillmans, Lynch, and their fellow soldiers lay bare the fact that the Bush administration engaged in an elaborate and deliberate criminal cover-up of Tillman’s fratricide, as well as Lynch’s ordeal, to deceive the American people.
In what can only described as post-facto rape, the administration hijacked the images of Tillman and Lynch for war propaganda, fabricated elaborate pro-war fantasies around both, and then flooded the media with these pro-Bush, pro-war falsehoods. The violation of Tillman will prove to be even more grotesque and appalling if investigations determine that Tillman’s disapproval of the war contributed in any way to his death.
An historic turning point has been reached. The American people who embraced the Pat Tillman/Jessica Lynch lie will “get” the Pat Tillman/Jessica Lynch truth, now that it has been honestly and heroically presented.
Now the tidal wave begins.
Piece by piece, the Bush administration’s criminal construct is finally being undone. The Bush administration, and its “war on terrorism” (in its present incarnation), will not recover from this mortal blow."
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nostalgia6 months, 4 weeks ago
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"After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again Saturday night, the on-scene commander decided he’d had enough. Keeping his authority to act in the case of a clear and present danger to the hostage’s life, and having heard nothing from Washington since yet another request to mount a rescue operation had been denied the day before, the Navy officer — unnamed in all media reports to date — decided the AK-47 one captor had leveled at Philips’ back was a threat to the hostage’s life, and ordered the NSWC team to take their shots."
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mesodude6 months, 4 weeks ago
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The Bush Abu Ghraib Scandal's Growing Stain
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"Haider Sabbar Abed al-Abbadi kept his shame to himself until the world saw him stripped naked, his head in a hood, a nude fellow prisoner kneeling before him simulating ********. "That is me," he claims to a TIME reporter, as one of the lurid photographs of detained Iraqis suffering sexual humiliation at the hands of U.S. soldiers scrolls down a computer screen. "I felt a mouth close around my penis. It was only when they took the bag off my head that I saw it was my friend." In the nine months he spent in detention, al-Abbadi says he was never charged and never interrogated. On that awful November night, four months after his arrest, he thought he and six other prisoners were being punished for a petty scuffle."
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,9...
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slate6 months, 4 weeks ago
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We have to give Obama the COC credit when credit is due folks. This is the time to do so, he gave orders to take out the pirates if they thought the captain's life was in imminent danger.
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Though there are many things that i don't agree with that Obama has done, the same holds true with every president since I was a child, I will always give them their due when they do things I agree with.-
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Wolfie20076 months, 3 weeks ago
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Slate, Obummer and his White House pirate gang did nothing but finally say it would be okay to use force if they could not reach a peaceful ending to the standoff. The only thing Obummer and his crew were worried about was bad publicity. If the operation had went south and the captain had been killed, wounded or taken to Somalia the Obummer gang would have denied any responsibility. You can count on it.
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wtagg6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Kudos, slate. At least you evaluate based on data and not rhetoric.
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It certainly doesn't mean that it changes one's opinion on all the actions of a man/admin/etc... You are acknowledging one specific instance. Seems everyone wants to paint with a very big roller.
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icono16 months, 4 weeks ago
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It sounds like to me the good Capt'n Phillips has a real pair and so does the Cap'n of the Navy ship.
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Also, for the snipers taking a difficult shot at a 'moving target', Well done.
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Ratskii6 months, 4 weeks ago
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If this had occurred while Bush was in office, I believe (from my past experience with the above commenters) that they'd be telling us what a genius Bush was and how this was a credit to his administration, while others (on the left) would be taking the points of view expressed above. Sometimes we take our partisan politics a little to seriously folks.
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Something else I warned you about over the past several years. after hearing support from many of you for things like the NSA wiretapping, the patriot acts and the military commissions act, I asked if you'd want them in effect under a liberal administration. Guess not. -
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stephen-johnson6 months, 4 weeks ago
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I'm just happy that an honorable man - Captain Philips - was rescued unhurt, and he and all of his crew are safe. A good job by our Navy.
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But over 200 sailors are still being held captive by the Somalis, and there appears to be no real interest among the civilized nations to do anything about it. They must think like the folks at DailyKos - paying ransom to Somali pirates is just part of the cost of doing shipping business.-
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mesodude6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Bush Administration Lied 935 Times About Iraq Before Invasion: Study
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President cited as most frequent liar, with 259 false statements about weapons of mass destruction and more.
"The results of the study were posted Tuesday on the Web site for the nonpartisan Center for Public Integrity, which worked on the project with the Fund for Independence in Journalism. "On at least 532 separate occasions (in speeches, briefings, interviews, testimony and the like), Bush and these three key officials [Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld], along with former Secretary of State Colin Powell, former Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and former White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan, stated unequivocally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (or was trying to produce or obtain them), links to al Qaeda or both. This concerted effort was the underpinning of the Bush administration's case for war," reads the report.
Entitled "False Pretenses," the report claims that the statements were "part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses." According to The Associated Press, White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said he could not comment on the study because he had not seen it.
Of the 935 false statements made by the administration, according to the study, Bush was reported to have led all White House officials with 259 false statements, which included 231 about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al Qaeda. Second on the list was Powell with 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al-Qaeda. "
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1580119/20080123/...
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fiftynine6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Here's the bottom line pc2.5..first go find a wire and suck an amp or two ok?
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Now in your great wisdom and knowledge base..Who is the commander in chief ? Do you suppose that are Navy ships are just cruising the sea's and shooting up whoever they feel like,whenever they feel like it ? Chain of command..ever hear of it ? And guess who is at the top of that chain?
Like it or not dip wad Obama was involved.
No one on the left is minimizing any actions taken by the seals/the captain of our Navy ship or the brave captain that was rescued..no one..get it?
You and the flunky squad that follows your BS is just ****** tha under Obama's watch this person was rescued safely.I'll bet that each one of your moronic azzes was hoping he would have died just so you could spout off about Obama's inaction,just as you were a couple of days prior to this rescue.You culd care less about the safety of that man or anyone else..it's all about you rushes talking points against the left and this president.All of this is just more of the blatant anti Americanism that you display daily.Why don't you get a life,or better yet join the service and have some real patriotism beat into your worthless azz.-
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frctm56 months, 4 weeks ago
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No matter the outcome, this event would be used to by some on the right to bash Obama. Fortunately, they won't get very far with this tactic anymore. Its diminishing in its power as it consistently comes up against a solid barrier of facts and favorable outcomes. This ship and the SEALS on board would not have been involved and would not have engaged the pirates without presidential consent period. Negotiating as the option of first resort in nearly every hostage situation by civilized countries that care about their citizens. This doesn't mean acceding to demands. Its standard operating procedure as the approach deemed most likely for the safe return of the hostages. That being said, it is not at the exclusion of other options where opportunities are presented. This is just remedial knowledge of how these situations are handled. Only the right wing spin machine would try to reinterpret reality to emasculate the president. I hope they continue with this tactic because it will backfire.
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aceofspades16 months, 4 weeks ago
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pc 25 - your venomous posts are the last gasps of a dying ideology- you are grasping at straws that will not keep you afloat.
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I must commend the comments of many who I have taken to task in the past - namely those like Slate, who are gracious & sensible enough to acknowledge things that are done correctly even when done by those with whom they disagree.
PC25 your venom with only result in you biting yourself in the ass-
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nostalgia6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Maybe you need to go back and read some of your posts BEFORE you talk about anyone else posting venom
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Hey dumbass kid who's being hateful now?
I guess I'm really wrong in calling you a dumbass kid -- you're just an A hole
Always knew you were a dumdass punk kid
skanky assed monkey - you're stinking up the place - go back to your cage you zoo keeper needs some sex -
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pcknowledge6 months, 3 weeks ago
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We have a President who is getting things done for us. Sometimes he does it by executing the right commands, sometimes he does it by signing a piece of paper (approving stem cell research).
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We have a President who is getting things done even for people who can't admit all the things he is doing for us. In the end it doesn't matter how he gets things done, for whom he gets things done, all that matters is that he is getting things done for America and everyone living here. I hope he continues to do well despite all the opposition, mistrust, and lack of support.-
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injest6 months, 3 weeks ago
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“and Lynch rescue”
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Ya I remember reading that leftist morons column bout how the rescue was “staged”
Iraq doctors statements that that the grenades used were “fake” because they didn’t produce any shrapnel.
Guess they never heard of “flash bang” grenades; apparently they were never used in Iraq.
Now why did it take the Navy so long to respond? Were they ordered not too?
· Yes the USS Bainbridge and the USS Boxer were some 300 miles away when the attack occurred, However the USS Boxer has at a minimum 6 AV8A Harrier 11’s with a range of 1200 mi (1900 km) and a speed of 735 mph (Mach 0.97) (1,185 km/h)
It doesn’t take 3 to 4 days for a bird going 700 MPH to travel 300Miles!
Considering the mission the USS Boxer was on, Task Force-151 a “Combined, a multi-national task force conducting anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden”
That would kinda sorta make ya think anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden might just be top on their minds.
Oh and the USS Boxer, is the flagship of Task Force-151!
They would have had birds flying patrol as well as birds flying CAP!
Why did it take soooooo long for the Navy to respond? Were they order not to take any action?
Did Obama issue some new ROE?
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CRYMTYPHON6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Wow!
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You sure told that Obama!
If only you could go right up to him and slap him
and tell him how real men act!
Maybe you could put your cigar out in his face!
And maybe while you are telling him off
there is a terrorist attack and he
screams but
- you grab the terrorists by the throat
and choak them with their own guns!
You'd teach our President what real leadership is about!
Just like Pc25 and Nostalgia are teaching us about honesty!
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bev16446 months, 3 weeks ago
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I think I get the same news as your reporter and there's no way I've determined by what I've seen and heard that the current administration is taking credit for the rescue at sea. I'm so disapointed in the republican conservatives and their insistance in undermining and even demonizing this president that instead of looking for balance in bipartisonship, I'm finding that I discount almost anything and everything they say. What a shame. I don't believe the two party system was meant to be this way. Get real, Republicans, and let's get back to the Grand Old Party, the way it used to be when I was a Republican some years ago.
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SFCGuyW6 months, 3 weeks ago
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The story is filled with untrue crap. Pres. Obama has given the Navy authority to use deadly force if it seemed that the Captain was in imminent danger of death. He issued this order on the first day. But first he wanted to try to talk the pirates into surrendering, knowing that they could not escape and time was available. This is the same process police hostage crisis teams use & it works most of the time. After the talks kept breaking down and the pirates were becoming more high strung the Pres. gave the order to shoot if it was possible to take out the pirates without hitting the hostage. This is also what police hostage crisis teams do after the negotiations break down. Thus, when a clear shot all the pirates became possible, three snipers (probably Seals or Marine Spec. Ops) killed them and the Captain was rescued. A fourth pirate had already surrendered earlier. Firing on the navy skiff that neared them is not unusual. In police hostage crisis situations the hostage takers often fire at any police approaching closef than the hostage takers feel is a comfortable range. These few shots usually do not result in an immediate attack by the police - just like the Navy reacted. This is the tried and proven method that works. Additionally, video taken from the Navy ships (there were numerous cameras involved) do not support the Captain jumping overboard a second time to escape. When the Navy reached him he was still tied by his hands and feet. But I guess the Obama bashers will make up anything to try to smeer what he has accomplished.
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TonyByron6 months, 3 weeks ago
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SFCGuyW writes:
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"Additionally, video taken from the Navy ships (there were numerous cameras involved) do not support the Captain jumping overboard a second time to escape. When the Navy reached him he was still tied by his hands and feet. But I guess the Obama bashers will make up anything to try to smeer what he has accomplished."
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