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pc257 months, 3 weeks ago
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http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/04/how-the-resc...
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I just finished listening to the press conference w/ ADM Gortney about the rescue of Captain Phillips. At the time it happened the USS Bainbridge was towing the lifeboat to calmer waters as the sea state was deteriorating. One of the pirates was on board the Bainbridge as the talks about obtaining Phillip's release continued. The lifeboat was approx. 25 m behind the Bainbridge when snipers on the fantail observed one of the pirates in the pilot house of the lifeboat pointing an AK-47 at the back of a tied up Phillips and the other two pirates on board were visible (at least shoulders and heads). The standing authority gave them clearance to engage the pirates if the life of the captain was in imminent danger. The on scene commander deemed this to be true and gave the order to fire. All three bad guys were taken out and then a rigid inflatable boat went to the lifeboat to retrieve Phillips. Iti is unknown at this point whether the shooters were SEALs or Marine Scout Snipers as both would have been available. This was not a rescue attempt ordered by National Command Authority i.e. the President. It was a reaction by the on scene commander under standard authority to safeguard the life of a hostage.
The AP is reporting that President Obama gave the order to use military force to rescue the hostage, that is misleading.-
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nostalgia7 months, 3 weeks ago
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The administration is hoping that this doesn't get a lot of attention - they'll use the rescue to divert attention
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It's Actually Possible... The Patriot Act Gets Worse
Last Friday evening, in a motion to dismiss Jewel v. NSA, EFF's litigation against the National Security Agency for the warrantless wiretapping of countless Americans, the Obama Administration's made two deeply troubling arguments.
First, they argued, exactly as the Bush Administration did on countless occasions, that the state secrets privilege requires the court to dismiss the issue out of hand. They argue that simply allowing the case to continue "would cause exceptionally grave harm to national security." As in the past, this is a blatant ploy to dismiss the litigation without allowing the courts to consider the evidence.
It's an especially disappointing argument to hear from the Obama Administration. As a candidate, Senator Obama lamented that the Bush Administration "invoked a legal tool known as the 'state secrets' privilege more than any other previous administration to get cases thrown out of civil court." He was right then, and we're dismayed that he and his team seem to have forgotten.
Sad as that is, it's the Department Of Justice's second argument that is the most pernicious. The DOJ claims that the U.S. Government is completely immune from litigation for illegal spying — that the Government can never be sued for surveillance that violates federal privacy statutes.
This is a radical assertion that is utterly unprecedented. No one — not the White House, not the Justice Department, not any member of Congress, and not the Bush Administration — has ever interpreted the law this way.
http://my.auburnjournal.com/detail/111477.html
Wonder why the left on Propeller is so quiet about this?-
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mesodude7 months, 3 weeks ago
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Tillman's Parents Criticize Army Investigations
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Say Military's 'Lies' have Covered Up Truth About Ranger's Death
The family of former NFL player Pat Tillman is lashing out against the Army, saying that the military's investigations into Tillman's friendly-fire death in Afghanistan last year were a sham and that Army efforts to cover up the truth have made it harder for them to deal with their loss.
"More than a year after their son was shot several times by his fellow Army Rangers on a craggy hillside near the Pakistani border, Tillman's mother and father said in interviews that they believe the military and the government created a heroic tale about how their son died to foster a patriotic response across the country.
They say the Army's ''lies" about what happened have made them suspicious, and they are certain they will never get the full story."
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fiftynine7 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Wonder why the left on Propeller is so quiet about this?"...lololol...Because it gets tiresome listening to your same anti American,anti Obama whining...YOU have a black man,a black democrat for president..get over it..YOU lost...
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fiftynine7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Truth really gets to you doesn't it. Tell me that none of the criticism that you see on here about Obama isn't about race. If you can say that then either you are one of them or so naive that you need to grow up and see the real world.
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These right wing idiots could care less about the problems he inherited from bushboy or the fact that he has only been in office two months.It is because he stepped into the all white club and they can't stand it...period.-
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nostalgia7 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Truth really gets to you doesn't it."
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Well it is amazing the assumptions members of the left make
How would you know what race I am?
But then you are a member of the left who believes Blacks are just pawns in a political game - keep them dependent on the handouts of the "superior whites" in the Democratic Party. Let a Black man become president and tie the "inferior" Blacks to the party forever?
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fiftynine7 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Well it is amazing the assumptions members of the left make....." And you ?
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"How would you know what race I am?"...Don't know,don't care....But you are assuming you know know my race ?
"But then you are a member of the left "....Who told you that ?
"But then you are a member of the left who believes Blacks are just pawns in a political game "........You are assuming you know what i believe...lol
". Let a Black man become president and tie the "inferior" Blacks to the party forever?
Your condescension is disgusting"....lolol Yep,that is what the people of Iowa had in mind when they gave him his victory here...lol...do you hear yourself ?
You sure make your point about assumptions though..
I didn't vote for Obama because of his color,unlike many on the right. I voted for him because he was the best man for the job..period..But unfortunately many voted against him for that exact reason..You want to be naive and believe that some of the rants you hyear on here aren't because of racial bias then go ahead and keep your little head buried.
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wtagg7 months, 2 weeks ago
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If you can demonstrate that you were against this in the prior 8 years, then you have a foundation for your position. If not, then it may indicate that you are unhappy with the opposition getting the tools that the previous admin enjoyed.
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I have personally been against the Patriot Act from the beginning. It has demonstratively done nothing to very little in preventing anything. The major changes (as laughable as they seemingly are in practice) have occurred because of actual incidents, like the shoe bomber and the liquid bottle incident in the UK. The Patriot Act has only provided the tools to the government to spy on its citizenry without warrant. If that is troubling to you, it should be no matter who is at the controls, whether now, 6 years ago, or in the future.-
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amazed7 months, 2 weeks ago
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absolutely.
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I have NEVER been a fan of the Patriot Act, but after hearing for eight years all about how Bush was a fascist and a dictator and was trampling the constitution, whenever FISA or the Patriot Act was mentioned, you have to admit that those who were spewing the most against Bush are strangely quiet when it comes to the exact same behavior of their champion, Obama. -
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bigG7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Well said wtagg. My thoughts exactly. I was against the Patriot Act when it was passed (without being read by those voting) and am against it now since I realize how dangerous it could be to the freedom and privacy of the American Citizenry. I also believe parts of it are unconstitutional (no check and balance).
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