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Posted By RedRiverJ 6 months, 4 weeks ago in NewsTwo Democrats and a Republican or perhaps I should say three Democrats in the Senate, have moved the ball further down the court to controlling and shutting down the Internet. What?!
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RedRiverJ6 months, 4 weeks ago
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RedRiverJ6 months, 4 weeks ago
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I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
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Voltaire (1694-1778) French writer and historian.
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.
Thats what the politicians seem to think of us, all of us.......SHEEP. -
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jovial6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Add Mike McConnell to your list of Democrats because he was one of the ones to suggest this.
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"10) According to the National Journal, Mike McConnell, the former Director of National Intelligence, told President Bush in May 2007 that if the 9/11 attackers had chosen computers instead of airplanes as their weapons and had waged a massive assault on a U.S. bank, the economic consequences would have been ‘an order of magnitude greater’ than those cased by the physical attack on the World Trade Center. Mike McConnell has subsequently referred to cybersecurity as the ‘soft underbelly of this country.’."
-SB 773
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Michael_McConnel... -
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jovial6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Why anyone would even use worldnetdaily as a source.
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In 2000, it published a series of 20 attack articles by Charles C. Thompson II and Tony Hays that (it brags) cost Al Gore the election because they allegedly caused him to lose Tennessee, a state that, had he won, would have made the Florida turmoil moot. But the article contained false claims about a Gore supporter, Clark Jones -- a fact it was finally forced to admit more than seven years later to settle a libel and defamation lawsuit from Jones. Not only did WND admit that "no witness verifies the truth" of what was said about Jones, "the sources named in the publications have stated under oath that statements attributed to them in the articles were either not made by them, were misquoted by the authors, were misconstrued, or the statements were taken out of context." -
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jovial6 months, 4 weeks ago
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In 2004, WND uncritically repeated unverified rumors about a John Kerry affair and never apologized when they were proven false. It peddled every misleading or completely false claim made by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth -- then hired Jerome Corsi, co-author of the book that first promoted those claims, as a reporter. WND published a Kerry attack book by the discredited conservative activist David Bossie, about whom WND itself asserted a few years earlier was "either extremely incompetent or was intentionally trying to sabotage investigations" in his previous role as an anti-Clinton investigator for a House committee. And WND editor Joseph Farah himself falsely claimed that money donated to a group by Kerry's wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, went to "radical causes"; in fact, it was earmarked toward specific environmental projects.
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Want to read more about the nefarious and deceitful goings on by Worldnet daily? Here's the link.
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2008/wndliar...
You guys are pitiful, to associate with these clowns only tarnishes your reputation as well.
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RedRiverJ6 months, 4 weeks ago
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The administration seems worried over our security all of a sudden.
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What about our wide open ports and borders?
We send people off to fight wars against terrorists and enemies that want to do us harm, they get killed and wounded to protect us. Yet we allow terrorist camps, allow anyone and everyone entrance to this country with no border security.
Seems like they consider free speech more of a threat than they do open borders. -
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_-m-_6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Nonsense. Try actually reading the bill. (Bold emphasis added.)
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SEC. 14. PUBLIC–PRIVATE CLEARINGHOUSE.
(a) DESIGNATION.—The Department of Commerce shall serve as the clearinghouse of cybersecurity threat and vulnerability information to Federal government and private sector owned critical infrastructure information systems and networks.
(b) FUNCTIONS.—The Secretary of Commerce—(1) shall have access to all relevant data concerning such networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule, or policy restricting such access;
(2) shall manage the sharing of Federal government and other critical infrastructure threat and vulnerability information between the Federal government and the persons primarily responsible for the operation and maintenance of the networks concerned; and
(3) shall report regularly to the Congress on threat information held by the Federal government that is not shared with the persons primarily responsible for the operation and maintenance of the networks concerned.
To translate:
As clearly specified in subsection (a), this would provide to access to relevant cybersecurity threat and vulnerability data for Federal government and private-sector owned critical infrastructure information systems and networks.
That does not provide for access to non-threat-and-vulnerability-related data, nor does it provide for access to such data for any non-Federal system or those not designated at 'critical infrastructure information systems'. (The later systems have yet to be defined and identified, which does provide for the possibility of an expansive definition of systems. It does not, however, provide a requirement for nor the authority to demand non-related data.)-
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jovial6 months, 4 weeks ago
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They never actually read these things they talk about. They just believe whatever worldnetdaily, hotair, or other nefarious blogs tall them. Then they go on for hours about, not realizing they don't even know what they're talking about.
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Endoscopy6 months, 4 weeks ago
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What you ignored is the parts you did not highlight that is what people are complaining about.
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"without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule, or policy restricting such access;"
This give then a license to hack into any computer for the nebulous reason that it might be a cyberspace threat. And you liberals went bonkers over the intrusions of the Patriot act. This give the government mush broader powers than that legislation.
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jakesguile6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Wow, I was actually scared of this bill for a minute until I read what Jovial said. I feel much better now in saying every news story on that page was utter crap. They don't want the internet - if they do, impeach their asses. The HHS bill is a travesty to law - "if yew dun liek it [that it's being repealed], den git outttt." Get over the Bow to the Saudi Arabian King - a bow is a sign of respect and mutual comradere, but you ******** don't really know much about "respect" do ya? I would think not, looking at your idol Bush. Now if all of you can be good little repugnatans for a minute and confess the bow wasn't a big deal I'll let you off on the stupid comment. Go on, it's not hard. Just learn some of that "respekt" you try to beat into your litle innocent six year olds with your penises each night.
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Endoscopy6 months, 4 weeks ago
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You and jovial dismissed the phrase "without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule, or policy restricting such access" from consideration. This is the phrase that the story was complaining about.
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The bowing of a president of the US bowing to anybody is an affront to all citizens of this country. Part of our history is that a US president bows to no one and our flag never dips to another flag. Ever since George Washington that has been a fact of life. Now this supposedly smart man broke that tradition. He did not bow to the Queen of England but bowed to a Muslim king. What is the real story on that? Remember the White House tried to deny he did that.
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dvtexan6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Hahahahahaha!!!!! Silly people. When you hear "news" that sounds like it is way out there.....research it before just trusting what you read. Hahahaha!
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I love the "I hate America group" that are on the edge of their seats hoping Obama will fail. Guess what people, if he does fail, you lose. Be smart and realize that you should want Obama to do well so this country can be the best country in the world again or, just move to another country. -
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greenmac6 months, 4 weeks ago
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I would suggest people READ the story and if you can't understand the importance of fighting a cyber attack try asking someone what would happen if the financial..the government or the defense systems were compromised. A cyber attack can be crippling, it can bring food distribution and electrical distribution to halt. depending on the depth of the attack it could cause an infinite amount of down time.
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Now it appears there are those who view the government involvement in preventing such a attack as wrong. I will ask those that believe this a question. Who do you think would be best to do this..ie protect your interests. If it were a physical attack you would expect the full force of the military not the local police force. The biggest problem seems to be that, some of us are unable to see what could happen. To me the government taking a proactive position sounds good to me... a central point of contact.
Imagine..no cell phones..no home phones...no truck traking systems..no electricity... limited communications..PANIC -
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Endoscopy6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Ignoring the bad phrase by the left wing. The government can go into any computer they might think is a possible threat and take what data they please. And you rant about the Patriot act. Silly lib. Obama can do no wrong and Bush could do no right. The blind leading the blind. Soros says follow the leader through moveon.org and the lemmings blindly follow. After all he bought and paid for the Democrat party.
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icono16 months, 4 weeks ago
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For a long, long, time the govt has been snooping on citizens telephone conversations and their Internet activity.
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Most ISP services allow this to happen to stay in business and also, the window machines 'always' record in 'data files' and other storage schemes what 'goes on' when a person goes to the net. The ISP providers do the same. That is why the cops or the feds love it when they get ahold of perps computer. Because with the right software, a lot of so called private/secret data stored by the owner or even erased by the owner can be recovered and examined by the police, or, the govt if you wish.
This law is just a ruse to make citizens think or not think they have a right to electronic privacy when in reality, though they may legally have a 'right', they actually don't. -
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calitennflo6 months, 4 weeks ago
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When the Press secretary in Washington watches the enormous amount of information published on the web...and can not place their usual contradictory story right beside it, you'll see them tighten the freedom. It is freedom they question...and freedom is required by human beings.
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They, the White House should never worry about one knowing truth. Although, prevented from swearing by Biblical verse (Swear neither by heaven or Earth), we have to to correctly give testimony in their courts. -
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