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    jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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    I'm not the one writing these stories, but they are coming up again and again. This is a disturbing trend. Some will try to dismiss this story, but there are more and more reports coming to light. You just can't dismiss all of them. The rhetoric is becoming increasingly uglier. In my opinion it's because of Fox News and Radio show hosts that key in on these words such as socialism, facism, etc. What do you think?

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      not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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      It's because these supposed tea parties weren't quiet tax protests, they were more Anit-Obama rants. Media such as Fox only adds fuel to the fire, and i don't know what it's going to take to make these ignorant people realize that the tax increase isn't even going to affect the majority of the protestors.. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

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        jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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        Amen! I saw my taxes go down. These people are Obama bashers plain and simple. The media service that supports these Obama bashfests, are the only ones that stand to benefit from this. They will get higher ratings, thus more ad money and they prosper at the expense of the people. Some people are so blind with hate against Obama they just don't see it.

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          not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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          And the media people who are inciting all this are the ones making the amount of money that will actually be taxed, but they know that these people are ignorant, uneducated and easily led, so they pull a Sarah Palin type move on them and get them all riled up so they will get out there and do their dirty work for them..

          In a country where anyone can get an education, i am amazed at the raw ignorance i see every day. I was born and raised in the back woods of Eastern Ky, my Mom and Dad had 6 kids, and they made sure we all got an education. We were taught to think for ourselves, be independent and self supporting. We were taught values and given moral standards to take with us through life. I have never allowed anyone to do my thinking for me, and i have used logic and deductive reasoning where most things in my life are concerned..
          HOW/WHY in the world these poor people allowed rich republicans to lead them to their own slaughter is beyond me, but like you said, they just hate harder than they can think, and it's their hatred that drives them, and it's the rich republicans greed that drives them.. It's a volital combo when you think about it.

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            beavith18 months, 1 week ago

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            N2N. you talk about your ability to think independently, yet your first and last paragraph is cut from the election rhetoric of, say Aug 2008.

            i'm not saying your beliefs are wrong. i am saying that you are not as independent a thinker as you think you are.

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              not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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              I don't allow rich people to lead me around telling me it's for my benefit that i get out and bash the president when he's doing everything he can to get the country out of the mess your president got us into..
              I am able to reason that for 20 of the last 28 years our country has had a republican president and the majority of that time there was also a republican congress...
              Educating yourself is half the battle, making personal attacks is all you know how to do, but it's not working, i know how to think on my feet, regardless of how low you go.

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                beavith18 months, 1 week ago

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                the first step is realize that you may not be correct.

                you can only address your problems when you realize that you may HAVE a problem.

                you've confabulated a fairy tale of reasons for something. keep looking. there is lots of evidence to the contrary of your beliefs.

                i'll start you on your way.

                the rich aren't leading you anywhere. that's your first mistake.

                let me ask you two questions. what kind of car do you drive? here's the tough one... why? how did you pick that car?

                those two simple questions should get you to start reassessing your beliefs.

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                  DarkWizard8 months, 1 week ago

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                  beavith1,

                  I understand your point and your point of view.

                  Unfortunately, it is you that are naive. the proof of that is in this statement, "the rich aren't leading you anywhere. that's your first mistake."

                  You are the one that needs to reassess your beliefs as the dinosaur crowd is continuing to show its ignorance and are gaining momentum in to the land of total idiocy!

                  The majority of Americans don't believe as you do and they stated that clearly in the last 2 elections. The vocal minority is now the tinfoil hat wearing crowd that is wandering the streets repeating talking points from Limbaugh and FOX News! Every time the conservatives speak America loses another IQ point!

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                    not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                    So because you say i have a problem, that makes it so.. You're a joke if you don't think rich republicans, lobbyists and right wing media are behind these tea bag parties, and are targeting the weakest, most ignorant and uneducated people they could find to participate, because attendance was nothing near what they had hoped it would be... That in and of itself should tell you something..

                    Now, i don't feel obligated to answer your question, but i will.
                    I drive a Chevy Cavalier, the last 2 vehicles i have owned have been Chevy Cavaliers, the reason?? They're great on gas, i have never had one that gave me a lot of trouble, they are very reasonably priced and they also have front wheel drive which is great in bad weather.. My husband has a Ford Ranger, for many of the same reasons i have my Cavalier, we don't need Hummers! Did i pass the test? Although i have no idea what my "beliefs" have to do with a Chevy Cavalier!
                    I live a modest lifestyle, i have a 3 bedroom, 2 bath home, living room, and eat in kitchen. I don't need more homes than i can count, or rooms i don't use or need, nor do i need big SUV's to impress or drain me to keep serviced and gassed up.

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                      not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                      What's wrong beavis, you didn't get the information you thought you were going to get? You thought i was going to tell you i drove a gas guzzling Expedition or some such vehicle? lol See? You don't really know the people you call names and make fun of on Propeller, in fact you don't know much at all do you?

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                      mesodude8 months, 1 week ago

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                      "the first step is realize that you may not be correct."

                      --Wait...you people hold the minority point of view time and time again on issue after issue (you're currently taking "your" country back after America rejected your agenda this past November) and you're lecturing someone else to consider the possibility that they might be wrong? Talk about the height of con arrogance and self importance. ;-0

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            jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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            It was embarrassing to watch middle-aged people(some with their children),
            hanging tea bags on their ears protesting a rate of taxation that just went down.
            Out of 50 odd million people that voted Republican in this country only approx. 250,000 countrywide took up protest. 1/2 of 1%! My guess is Libertarians made up a sizable portion of that group. I'm not dismissing that fact that they showed up, but I think the Republican's thinking this is to be some "game changer" is ludicrous. We have to ask them, "When there was a spending maelstrom being done that supported conservative causes in the last administration, where were the tea bag parties? It leaves me to believe that the "tea bag parties" are politically motivated, and have less to do with taxation.

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              icewater8 months, 1 week ago

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              I appreciate my generous tax refund, but I think what most of these people are worried about is the soaring national debt, which will be repaid only through excessive taxation in the future or by inflation, which will basically rob people of the buying power of their money. Either way, it's bad.

              Liberals of today, like the Bush lovers of the last term, are blind to the damage being done by THEIR guy. We all need to be less like team players and start thinking objectively about all of this stuff.

              I wish Obama would get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan, but that isn't happening. I thought the war was the really big issue, the one that motivated everyone to vote for the Democrats this time, because it's cost us so much. I had hopes for Obama, but those hopes are fading. How about restoring all of those constitutional rights Bush got rid of in the name of fighting terrorism? Gore Vidal mentioned that on Real Time just the other night. So, it's not just cons who are worried about the state of things.

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            engineer8 months, 1 week ago

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            You expect this from Faux. The wealthy are afraid that they won't be getting the breaks and the common people will. Then the sheeple do exactly what the wealthy, neocons, FAUX and the GOP want

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              icewater8 months, 1 week ago

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              It wasn't the republicans in congress who voted for the first bailout, was it? Now who's the party of the rich? They all are.

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              TonyByron8 months, 1 week ago

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              "I'm not the one writing these stories, but they are coming up again and again."

              Correct jovial, CNN wrote the story. It was not reporting, it was a case of a biased reporter making a story.

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                amazed8 months, 1 week ago

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                "I'm not the one writing these stories, but they are coming up again and again. This is a disturbing trend. Some will try to dismiss this story, but there are more and more reports coming to light. You just can't dismiss all of them. The rhetoric is becoming increasingly uglier. In my opinion it's because of Fox News and Radio show hosts that key in on these words such as socialism, facism, etc. What do you think?"

                I think I was just having a discussion with a couple of people yesterday about this very thing -- except we were pretty alarmed by the invective and ridicule heaped on this tea parties -- way out of proportion to what thwy were. Also I find the DHS report rather troubling -- with it's fear-mongering of "right-wing extremists" even though, by its own report, there's no evidence that any of them are doing anything more serious than bitching. Last time I looked, that was still allowed under the constitution. And then of course, is the DOJ argument on the lawsuit against the gov't for illegal spying and FISA violations -- not only reiterating all of Bush's arguments, but adding even more including the argument that no one has the right to even sue the govenrment regarding these matters.

                Another point that make Fox even less like a government run media outlet -- in case you haven't noticed, they've been pretty critical of Obama and most of his programs. Generally, a government controlled media reports everything that the government does as peachy.

                Sounds a bit more like MSNBC, CNN, CBS, NBC and ABC doesn't it?

                And, if we really already HAD the gov't controlling the media, don't you think they would have shut Fox down by now? Of course, under the previous administration, there would ONLY be Fox....

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                Spadecaller8 months, 1 week ago

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                The so called "grass roots event" promoted by FOX was only a million short according to the station's predictions.

                The small crowd of less than 500 wackos that showed up in Tampa, behaved more like a KKK meeting than a political protest. The only thing missing was a lawn and a burning cross.

                Regarding the tax issue, more people have received a tax break than during the Bush years, when only the richest received a tax break. This whole event is bogus and inspired by Fox News and the lobbyists. Grass roots movement start from the ground up. This started in an office building high above main street.

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                  Sageparadox8 months, 1 week ago

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                  A term that starting to be used more often:

                  It isn’t a grass roots movement,

                  it is a Astroturf movement.

                  But if you ask me, it is starting to smell more like a bowl movement.

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                    pokydoke8 months, 1 week ago

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                    Good point Sage but I think it's bowel movement but bowling them over would be nice.

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                    beavith18 months, 1 week ago

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                    everyone received a tax break. the amount was more, of course, for the people that paid in more.

                    you have no problem with a progressive tax system, but when the taxes are reduced, progressively, you have a problem with that?

                    what'll it be?

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                      mesodude8 months, 1 week ago

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                      "everyone received a tax break. the amount was more, of course, for the people that paid in more."

                      IOW, people who didn't need or ask for tax cuts were given them largely because some people who will NEVER be rich have been brainwashed to believe that they are put on this earth to be the protectors of the utlra-wealthy. ;-o

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                      hyperbola8 months, 1 week ago

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                      Well Spade, it is certainly true that this was planned in offices high above main street. Seems to be a product of the oligarch billionaires, like the Koch family. Kind of interesting that that family of Russian jews (who owned an oil company that created and developed the oil fields of the Soviet Union during the Cold War - which was basically an off limits area at that time to almost all Americans unless you happen to be a Jewish Communist like Fred Koch) are now stirring the mobs in America. Just emphasizes that this is not about the right versus the left, but about pludering of average americans by the super-rich.

                      Right-Wing 'Tea Party' Movement Was Planned Months Ago by GOP Billionaires

                      The latest so-called "populist" revolt against the federal government was a pre-planned PR stunt.... Populist revolt against the U.S. government is all the rage in the Republican Party, these days. As they tell the story, the public is so outraged by the recovery and reinvestment efforts of the Obama administration that Americans everywhere are turning out to overthrow the tyrannical king of the federal government by re-enacting the Boston Tea Party.

                      Funny thing, though: it turns out this whole "populist" movement was a planned PR stunt funded by big-money right-wing backers of the GOP who specialize in faking grassroots movements to drum up opposition to Barack Obama.

                      ... What hasn’t been reported until now is evidence linking Santelli’s “tea party” rant with some very familiar names in the Republican rightwing machine, from PR operatives who specialize in imitation-grassroots PR campaigns (called “astroturfing”) to bigwig politicians and notorious billionaire funders. As veteran Russia reporters, both of us spent years watching the Kremlin use fake grassroots movements to influence and control the political landscape. To us, the uncanny speed and direction the movement took and the players involved in promoting it had a strangely forced quality to it. If it seemed scripted, that's because it was.

                      What we discovered is that Santelli’s “rant” was not at all spontaneous as his alleged fans claim, but rather it was a carefully-planned trigger for the anti-Obama campaign. In PR terms, his February 19th call for a “Chicago Tea Party” was the launch event of a carefully organized and sophisticated PR campaign, one in which Santelli served as a frontman, using the CNBC airwaves for publicity, for the some of the craziest and sleaziest rightwing oligarch clans this country has ever produced. Namely, the Koch family, the multibilllionaire owners of the largest private corporation in America, and funders of scores of rightwing thinktanks and advocacy groups, from the Cato Institute and Reason Magazine to FreedomWorks. The scion of the Koch family, Fred Koch, was a co-founder of the notorious extremist-rightwing John Birch Society.

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                        hyperbola8 months, 1 week ago

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                        It helps, in other words, to have field experience ferreting out Soviet propaganda to understand how Rick Santelli suddenly became the figurehead of a right-wing "grassroots" revolt against the United States government. ...

                        ...we need to make ourselves aware of the massive resources the right is spending to block any effort by the American people to work together to repair the damage to our economy and restore our national confidence. And after we have made ourselves aware of how far the opposition is willing to go, we need to get back to work making sure the debate states focused on the real issue at hand here: millions and millions families who need help right now, and the greatness of a nation that stands together in times of need to overcome seemingly impossible obstacles.

                        http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/03/02/right-wi...

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                          texasvtr8 months, 1 week ago

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                          The Pig Book Summary profiles the most egregious examples, breaks down pork per capita by state, and presents the annual "Oinker" Awards. All 10,160 projects are listed in a searchable database on CAGW’s website www.cagw.org. Examples of pork in the 2009 Pig Book include:

                          * $3.8 million for the Old Tiger Stadium Conservancy in Detroit;
                          * $1.9 million for the Pleasure Beach water taxi service in Connecticut;
                          * $1.8 million for swine odor and manure management research in Ames, Iowa;
                          * $380,000 for a recreation and fairgrounds area in Kotzebue, Alaska;
                          * $143,000 for the Greater New Haven Labor History Association in Connecticut;
                          * $95,000 for the Canton Symphony Orchestra Association in Ohio; and
                          * $71,000 for Dance Theater Etcetera in Brooklyn for its Tolerance through Arts initiative.

                          Citizens Against Government Waste is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization dedicated to eliminating waste, fraud, abuse, and mismanagement in government.

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                      Goppy8 months, 1 week ago

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                      Can it be any clearer to Fair Minded, Patriotic Americans, that FOX (and SBC) ... are modeled after the Russian State Run Media ... or even further back in time, the Old Soviet Union?

                      Careful readers know that I have taken great pains to point out that "Hardliner Conservatives" are the same the world over - be they in Communist Soviet Union of days gone by ... or Present Day Military Junta's as in Myanmar.

                      The ONE human trait uniting ALL is the desire for unanimity of opinion and the intolerance to opposing points of view.

                      When the Australian, Rupert Murdoch came to America - he came with bags of money to bribe Republican Legislators to change our nation's law that prevented foreigners from buying and owning our Media.

                      The reason for this law was clear and simple, to prevent crazy ideologues from coming to our shores and creating a following behind some anti-American Ideology.

                      The value of this law became evident to all when Rupert Murdoch (and then others) began to use media in ways that resemble nations that did not share our democratic values.

                      FOX is clearly organizing much of the TEA Party demonstrations. This is CLEARLY a political movement - run my media. They are using media SPECIFICALLY for the purpose of organizing opposition to political opponents.

                      In this way are we being pushed towards nation's that we all grew up DESPISING as children.

                      For instance - we DESPISED the Godless Soviet Union - laughing at them for their ONE SIDED media that spoon fed their citizens with a diet of Propaganda.

                      Well ... now WE have media that is politically one sided ... FOX.

                      We RIDICULED the Soviet Union for their Gulags and Torture. Didn't we read Alexander Solzenitzen and shake our heads ... wondering how horrible it would be to live in a nation that was so Morally Vacant - they TORTURED people in Gulags.

                      Well ... now WE have Torture ... AND GULAGS.

                      Didn't we grow up having PITY for the citizens of the Soviet Union ... that they had to be careful of what they said - for fear their conversations were being listened to?

                      Well ... I heard on the news today that CIA and FBI is being reprimanded for overstepping the bounds in arbitrarily intercepting numerous citizen's conversations.

                      These truly are dangerous times.

                      Foreigners such as Murdoch and Sun Myung Moon have invaded our nation and reach out and touch vulnerable individuals - be it due to their self loathing or some other frustration - re-defining patriotism as being an expression of anti-Government.

                      And yet ... it's a sign of their hopeless ignorance that they DO support our LARGEST Government exercise ... our Military.

                      But that is the touchstone of Ideology ... it's usually a collection of contradictions and irrationality.

                      Like FOX.
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                        hyperbola8 months, 1 week ago

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                        I don't sdee much difference between FOX, CNN, CBS, .... They all play this up as a "divisive" issue aimed at maximizing emotional responses, which fits their role as corporate media mainly interested in preserving privileges of the rich at the expense of the poor. Frankly Americans are mad about being made paupers in theri own country. Of course, it is rather ironic that the "tea party" type of rabble rousing is mainly aimed at making Americans ignore the fact that it is the corruption of a system that has been transferring wealth to the super-rich ever since Reagan (by both parties) that is the root of our economic pain. Until that base corruption is rooted out (and you can decide for yourself whether either of our political parties is really trying), matters will only get worse.

                        I also see very little difference between the Bush and Obama administrations in their "recovery" plans. Both have followed almost the same pathway: soak the taxpayer to shovel funds to the very same corrupt financial oligarchs that caused the problem in the first place. There is very little difference between having Paulson or having Summers and Geithner, all are connected to the same corruption.

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                          jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                          There is no "utopian society" where government is crammed into one building and and lives off of a budget that couldn't even support a company like quaker oats. That being said there is no utopian society either where government takes on all of our needs and leaves us wanting for naught. I think there has to be a balance. The greedy corporations and individuals that are being allowed to take money from the American people are doing so, because they are allowed to do so, without educated American citizens exposing it. Now exposing it, as can be seen by recent expose's is not enough. It's got to have some teeth in it. Some heads have got to roll. It's got to hurt when these scandals arise. Not to the corporations themselves, but to the people that implemented the policies. Citibank and AIG aren't bad corporations. It's the thieves and swindlers that infiltrate these companies that are the problem. The problem with America, is that we can't find enough people with the power, courage, or ingenuity to analyze what these scoundrels are doing and implement stop measures in time to prevent catastrophe. Remember, these wall St. bankers are Harvard, Princeton, etc. graduates. It's a formidable task to regulate people that hold so much wealth and financial wisdom. The hard part is finding people that have the wisdom to figure out what they are doing, and hasn't been tainted by the system itself.

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                            hyperbola8 months, 1 week ago

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                            There are such people, but we started ignoring them the first time our financial oligarchs started looting the taxpayer with government officials helping - namely the Savings and Loan scandal during the the Reagan administration.

                            Obama and fraud that makes Madoff look small time

                            Since Bernard L. Madoff was handcuffed and taken from his office by FBI agents, we have been made well aware of the nature of Ponzi schemes, fraudulent investment opportunities that pay off early participants with money from newcomers, not from returns on legitimate stock or bond holdings. Mr. Madoff, once a highly respected member of the Wall Street establishment, has admitted to defrauding investors of as much as $50 billion in such a manner. When asked by the agents who arrested him if he could explain what he'd done, he reportedly said, "There is no innocent explanation."

                            According to the man who may be the leading expert on banking fraud, there is also no innocent explanation for the events leading to the current economic crisis. Last week on his PBS show, Bill Moyers interviewed William K. Black, the senior regulator during the savings and loan scandal in the late 1980s. Mr. Black, who wrote a book based on his experiences and called it The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One, said the fraud and deceit that resulted in the world banking system's dire distress makes Bernie Madoff look like a piker. In fact, says Mr. Black, who is the former director of the Institute for Fraud Prevention, what we have experienced was caused by "calculated dishonesty" on the part of corporate CEOs, aided and abetted by politicians and regulators who tore down the barriers to financial shenanigans - perhaps the most important example being the repeal of the Great Depression-inspired Glass-Steagall Act that separated commercial banking from investment banking. This cleared the stage for the fraudulent investments that made a lot of people very, very rich in what we can now see was an immense Ponzi scheme, many times the size and scope of the scam pulled off by Mr. Madoff.

                            .... So, why haven't we seen the people responsible for this hauled off in handcuffs the way Bernie Madoff was? Or at the very least, how come the CEOs of the banks involved in this scheme haven't been made to walk the plank like Rick Wagoner of General Motors? Because, says Mr. Black, "We don't want to change the bankers, because if we do, if we put honest people in, who didn't cause the problem, their first job would be to find the scope of the problem. And that would destroy the cover-up."

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                              hyperbola8 months, 1 week ago

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                              When asked by Mr. Moyers whether he was alleging that Timothy F. Geithner and others in the administration, and the banks, are engaged in a cover-up to keep us from knowing what went wrong, Mr. Black said, "Absolutely." The rulers are frightened to admit that many of the large banks are insolvent. They have ignored the proven methods for dealing with bank fraud and have instead adopted what they used to laugh at when the Japanese did it: covering up bank losses by lying about them and injecting money into failed institutions. Even though it's working exactly as one would expect - just as it did in setting Japan into a long, deep recession - they don't know what else to do. To take effective action would reveal what they believe cannot be revealed. The lurid facts must be hidden.

                              So much for the vaunted transparency the new president promised us.

                              http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/04/13/obama-an...

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                          beavith18 months, 1 week ago

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                          ...But that is the touchstone of Ideology ... it's usually a collection of contradictions and irrationality...

                          truer words haven't been spoken. problem is, it applies to you too.

                          here's a question for you. is it possible to call oneself a hypocrite, or to be comfortable with knowing that oneself IS a hypocrite.

                          i'm not talking about you, personally, as much as i',m talking about the arch conservative or arch liberal?

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                            not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                            The worst part is, the republicans are so brain washed they don't see it, they refuse to even read our comments or think about what you just told them. To them you're Guppy, i'm way2needy and all they do is make personal attacks on us rather then read the articles or our comments.. When the sh!t hits the fan, and it will, they will still be looking for a way to blame the first liberal they can find.. They are brainwashed and they like it that way.

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                              lovemylibs8 months, 1 week ago

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                              That's funny. All of those talking points are clearly on Journolist and you are talking about brainwashing.

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                                duch2izback8 months, 1 week ago

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                                is so sad to read so many ignorant comments being made on this board. I love how you Fiberal fools believe you know the "real truth" about your President and your party. Despite every Left wing drive-by media outlet ignoring the Tea Parties, Fox News once again DESTROYED every other news outlet COMBINED, because they were the ONLY network to provide people with the truth! Every Democrat in this country is a brain-dead sheep, programmed by your Messiah and his almighty teleprompter, into believeing you are getting a "tax cut". Take a look at your check, and try to find that tax cut, chances are you can't.
                                For you ignorant morons out there who cannot get your facts straight, the tea parties were about GOVERNMENT SPENDING and GENERATIONAL DEBT. It wasn't aimed squarely at Democrats and Obama, it was also aimed at Rebublican politicians as well. It was a message that people are not happy with the way things are going in this country, and havne't been for a long time. Of course, the drive-bys won't give this demonstration the respect it deserved, like the attention paid to the Million Moron March or the hard ons they get every time the Obama speaks.
                                BTW...note that there was no profanity, no fighting, no rioting, burning of cars, breaking of windows, attacking police or destruction of property. Of course it wasn't a Democrat demonstration either, it was civilized.It was people, REAL AMERICANS getting together for one common cause: to start getting our nation back from the harbringer of Socialism and the ignorant fools who follow him and await his telepromter's every word.

                                Susan Roesegen, I'm glad we ran your sorry ass out of New Orleans! You are low-life trash!

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                                  amazed8 months, 1 week ago

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                                  you make some good points, but you're suffering the same delusions about
                                  "every Democrat" that N2N has about republicans.

                                  Until we can see each others as Americans who, for the most part. all have the same goals with just differing ideas on how to reach those goals, we are going to remain divided and polarized -- and it will bring us down.

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                                  amazed8 months, 1 week ago

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                                  but once again, the only point you're making, n2n, is that those of us who disagree with you are nasty and close-minded.

                                  You've made no point at all about anything except the vileness and stupidity of those who disagree with you.

                                  Heck, maybe we agree on several things...I have no way of knowing because pretty much all you ever say is "Obama supporters -- good" "everyone else -- stupid and evil", all business people and anyone who appears to have more than you is corrupt and greedy.

                                  Did I miss something?

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                                  Goppy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                  I had to hurry my earlier comment as I was preparing for a meeting.

                                  If I had had more time, I would have liked to expand on the theme of how Hardline Conservatives know no real party affiliation.

                                  They are driven by their fears and aggression.

                                  I wanted to expand on the similarities between the Modern Republican and similar World View of Hardliners elsewhere.

                                  For instance - again with The Old Soviet Union ... their leadership pursued an unrestrained course of Military Expenditure - even as their citizens struggled.

                                  This is how it always works - Hardliners demand sacrifices of the people - so as to spend money and build military might and power.

                                  These people don't recognize that REAL power forged by the intellect, creativity, insight, and expression of the populace.

                                  Since Right Wing Hardliners are suspicious of this type of expression - preferring to employ the exact same answers to every unasked question - their ascension ALWAYS results in a dreary society bent on Militarism.

                                  Another example can be seen in pre-WW2 Germany - where the Fascist State demanded agreement and the State Run Media supplied the Ideological Propaganda 24/7. There were book burnings, artists were ostricised, etc.

                                  And please, I'm not saying that Modern Republicans are NAZIs - I'm merely pointing to examples where Hardline Policies produced unwanted results.

                                  But back to our nation - even as our population is struggling with massive domestic issues. 50 Million Americans are without health insurance.

                                  20,000 Americans die each year as a direct result of having NO health insurance.

                                  Quality education is slipping away as an option for too many bright Americans.

                                  And yet - Modern Republicans see this and have no interest ... other than to demand ever larger spending on the military contractors.

                                  As of today - we spend nearly as much on Military as the ENTIRE WORLD COMBINED.

                                  I find this strikingly similar to the Old Soviet Union.
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                                  not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                  Those poor people didn't have enough sense to even understand why they were there, talking about Lincoln and this FTA got me:
                                  Wingnut: He's a fascist.

                                  Roesgen: Why do you say he's a fascist? He's the President of the United States. Do you realize how offensive that is?

                                  Wingnut: I think he's a fascist.

                                  Roesgen: Why?

                                  Wingnut: Because he is.

                                  That man didn't even know what fascism is. It's pathetic that poor, ignorant people like that are allowed to run rampant on a country that offers them the opportunity to get an education. It's also pathetic that those of us who are educated have to be exposed to their chosen ignorance. I would almost bet you that some of those people didn't work at all. Some of them looked like welfare recipients to me, and i can spot one a mile away. They're probably scared they will have to get a job, and infringe on their right to not work! lol
                                  My opinion and i'm entitled to it!

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                                    hyperbola8 months, 1 week ago

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                                    Well, we would probably be better off if either Bush or Obama had adopted Lincoln's method of dealing with corrupt bankers. Instead both have shoveled gazoodles of taxpayer money to corrupt financial oligarchs.

                                    Revive Lincoln’s Monetary Policy: an Open Letter to President Obama

                                    ..... The bankers had Lincoln's government over a barrel, just as Wall Street has Congress in its vice-like grip today. The North needed money to fund a war, and the bankers were willing to lend it only under circumstances that amounted to extortion, involving staggering interest rates of 24 to 36 percent. Lincoln saw that this would bankrupt the North and asked a trusted colleague to research the matter and find a solution. In what may be the best piece of advice ever given to a sitting President, Colonel Dick Taylor of Illinois reported back that the Union had the power under the Constitution to solve its financing problem by printing its money as a sovereign government. Taylor said:

                                    "Just get Congress to pass a bill authorizing the printing of full legal tender treasury notes ... and pay your soldiers with them and go ahead and win your war with them also. If you make them full legal tender ... they will have the full sanction of the government and be just as good as any money; as Congress is given that express right by the Constitution."

                                    The Greenbacks actually were just as good as the bankers' banknotes. Both were created on a printing press, but the banknotes had the veneer of legitimacy because they were "backed" by gold. The catch was that this backing was based on "fractional reserves," meaning the bankers held only a small fraction of the gold necessary to support all the loans represented by their banknotes. The "fractional reserve" ruse is still used today to create the impression that bankers are lending something other than mere debt created with accounting entries on their books. 1

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                                      hyperbola8 months, 1 week ago

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                                      Lincoln took Col. Taylor's advice and funded the war by printing paper notes backed by the credit of the government. These legal-tender U.S. Notes or "Greenbacks" represented receipts for labor and goods delivered to the United States. They were paid to soldiers and suppliers and were tradeable for goods and services of a value equivalent to their service to the community. The Greenbacks aided the Union not only in winning the war but in funding a period of unprecedented economic expansion. Lincoln's government created the greatest industrial giant the world had yet seen. The steel industry was launched, a continental railroad system was created, a new era of farm machinery and cheap tools was promoted, free higher education was established, government support was provided to all branches of science, the Bureau of Mines was organized, and labor productivity was increased by 50 to 75 percent. The Greenback was not the only currency used to fund these achievements; but they could not have been accomplished without it, and they could not have been accomplished on money borrowed at the usurious rates the bankers were attempting to extort from the North.

                                      Lincoln succeeded in restoring the government's power to issue the national currency, but his revolutionary monetary policy was opposed by powerful forces. The threat to established interests was captured in an editorial of unknown authorship, said to have been published in The London Times in 1865:

                                      "If that mischievous financial policy which had its origin in the North American Republic during the late war in that country, should become indurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debt. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world. The brains and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe."

                                      In 1865, Lincoln was assassinated. According to historian W. Cleon Skousen:

                                      "Right after the Civil War there was considerable talk about reviving Lincoln's brief experiment with the Constitutional monetary system. Had not the European money-trust intervened, it would have no doubt become an established institution."

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                                        hyperbola8 months, 1 week ago

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                                        The institution that became established instead was the Federal Reserve, a privately-owned central bank given the power in 1913 to print Federal Reserve Notes (or dollar bills) and lend them to the government. The government was submerged in a debt that has grown exponentially since, until it is now an unrepayable $11 trillion. For nearly a century, Lincoln's statue at the Lincoln Memorial has gazed out pensively across the reflecting pool at the Federal Reserve building, as if pondering what the bankers had wrought since his death and how to remedy it.

                                        ...Lincoln did not invent government-issued paper money. Rather, he restored a brilliant innovation of the American colonists. According to Benjamin Franklin, it was the colonists' home-grown paper "scrip" that was responsible for the remarkable abundance in the colonies at a time when England was suffering from the ravages of the Industrial Revolution. Like with Lincoln's Greenbacks, this prosperity posed a threat to the control of the British Crown and the emerging network of private British banks, prompting the King to ban the colonists' paper money and require the payment of taxes in gold. According to Franklin and several other historians of the period, it was these onerous demands by the Crown, and the corresponding collapse of the colonists' paper money supply, that actually sparked the Revolutionary War. 2....

                                        http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22391....

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                                      beavith18 months, 1 week ago

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                                      ....My opinion and i'm entitled to it!...

                                      but 'wingnut' isn't?

                                      when did you get a lock on the truth? is there even a remote possibility that you could be wrong? that, in fact, you are the ignorant one?

                                      i know that i can't be wrong. i'm me. ;-)

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                                        not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                        IF you went into the article, you would have seen that was an exerpt from the article, but why would i expect you to actually know what you're talking about to begin with.

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                                          amazed8 months, 1 week ago

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                                          Actually, when I went into the article, that was pretty much the whole thing.

                                          But it does beg the question, why is it now offensive for someone to call the President a fascist (and, btw I agree that it is), but it was NOT offensive to call the former President a fascist and worse?

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                                          DarkWizard8 months, 1 week ago

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                                          "when did you get a lock on the truth? is there even a remote possibility that you could be wrong? that, in fact, you are the ignorant one?"

                                          You mean the same lock on truth the republicans have been claiming for decades? The same lock on truth that has brought us to this crisis? It's hard being on the wrong side of the solution, but them's the breaks when you back the wrong horse.

                                          I guess the conservatives will burrow further into the fantasy world they created while everyone else was yelling the sky is falling and they were merrily saying how nice the weather was...

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                                            not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                            And now they're screaming that the sky's falling, and trying to figure out a way they can blame it on a Libbie! Sick way of thinking, IMO!

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                                        dunkirk8 months, 1 week ago

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                                        It is indeed scqary to see people so full of hate. To watch the clips and read the strories of the tea parties its hard to see people claiming them as anything BUT partisan. Overall the tea parties are bringing out the right wing wacks, the "overwhelming" support isnt there. I read my daily threats of bodily harm from RRCon and truly believe he represents the nut cases that attend these rallies. Im only hoping the FBI is making notes of the death threats.

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                                          beavith18 months, 1 week ago

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                                          ummmmm..... listen to yourself?

                                          i attended because i wanted to see what it was about. i thought it was good clean fun. no KKK overtones. actually, the only overtones at all were to 'get your dam hands out of my pocket.'

                                          there was one at noon in Concord NH that had maybe 100 participants. the one at 6PM in Manchester NHhad anywhere from 1000-2000 people.

                                          do you want to know the difference? they couldn't make the noon one because they had to work.

                                          i know its tough, but could you maybe throw them a bone and say there might be just a grain of something there? that losing the election may not be all that's driving these people?

                                          from my perspective, what made it fun for me was that it was a rare demonstration of center right solidarity, rather than the dreary lefty protests-of-the-day.

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                                            decipher8 months, 1 week ago

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                                            no kkk overtones in new hampshire? that's a surprise? tell me, are the kkk "party" attendees in florida members of your center right group?

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                                              beavith18 months, 1 week ago

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                                              the liberal lunatic fringe above alluded to the KKK in FL. that's all.

                                              in NH it was a very friendly family event.

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                                                DarkWizard8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                Yes...that whole like minds getting along thing. And, we sink further in to the rabbit hole...

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                                                  dunkirk8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                  ROFLMAO, yet when you see the number of news clips surfacing that show the lunatic right calling for book burnings and death threats at the tea parties one has to wonder. Altho based on the "family values" the right has been exhibiting while in office I guess those are family gatherings for them.

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                                            Spadecaller8 months, 1 week ago

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                                            Some of these teabaggers have serious convictions:

                                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_27G4rnoRo

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                                              Spadecaller8 months, 1 week ago

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                                              I knew this would really upset prohypocrite. He shouldn't feel ashamed. I thought his first video appearance was really quite good.

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                                                tanglang8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                That guy is a nutjob who obviously hates all government. Nothing more

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                                                  Spadecaller8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                  That guy reminds me of you too, tang.

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                                                    not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                    Did you watch the whole video? He was really a pretty smart guy, who started off telling cons what they wanted to hear! lol

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                                                      Spadecaller8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                      I doubt tanglang watched the entire video and definitely would not admit it anyway, tang didn't even understand the video.

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                                                      tanglang8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                      He is more like you. He thinks Beck and Norris were being serious when they were clearly joking. And he hates Bush. Sounds like you and him would hit it off.

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                                                        not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                        So you did break down and watch it, lol

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                                                          tanglang8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                          Well aren't you just the master of the obvious. You truly are sharper than a bowling ball.
                                                          If I didn't watch it I wouldn't comment on it toots.

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                                                  spkguy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                  Had they only known?

                                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F26vC_1_8xw=related

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                                                cloud158 months, 1 week ago

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                                                That guy was certainly a fool.

                                                To be fair though they weren't all like that. A man in the background was holding a sign that said "Republicans suck too!"

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                                                  tanglang8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                  You like how CNN conveniently missed that poster?

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                                                  simonsez8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                  It was about government ... not about party affiliations.

                                                  Just ignore it. It will go away ...

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                                                    mesodude8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                    "It was about government ... not about party affiliations."

                                                    --Of course it was...The spending straw that broke the camel's back just *coincidentally* occurs after Bush leave office. Astounding. ;-(

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                                                      jordan118 months, 1 week ago

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                                                      It was about government ... not about party affiliations.>>>>>

                                                      Nope, I spent the afternoon with my dad yesterday, who watches faux news ALL the time. Every now and again a shill would talk about how this was 'non partisan.' LMAO, the rest of the time they bashed liberals, Obama, democrats. Yeah, it wasn't about "party affiliations." Wanna buy a bridge?

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                                                      TimALoftis8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                      Seeing some of the clips from yesterday reminded me of what we saw last fall during the final weeks of the McCain/Palin campaign. Those attending the rallies especially the Palin ones got whipped into a frenzy that boarded on general hate for the opposition and could have easily created almost certain violence if it had been allowed to continue. To McCain's credit and that of his campaign this was stopped just in time as they started to see the possible fallout (falling poll numbers) especially after Colin Powell weighed in on the matter.

                                                      Looking back, It's may be true that Obama ran a very good campaign to get elected but McCain/Palin to a large degree defeated themselves.

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                                                        quackpot8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                        It will be a bit difficult to balance the budget while increasing the largest consumer of income tax dollars: the war department.

                                                        If these folks are serious about the tea business, they need look no further than cutting back of a few of the bloated military programs that most of them seem to adore.

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                                                          stephen-johnson8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                          Wow - this is the smoking gun that justifies Napolitano putting the alert out for right wingnuts. He actually thinks that Obama is a fascist! They should arrest him right now! Nobody on the left ever called Bush a fascist!

                                                          Ooops!

                                                          CNN should invite Napolitano for comment. It might get them past MSNBC in the ratings (but not past Fox - LOL!). CNN probably won't even ask her one question about the DHS memo

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                                                            not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                            You're just about everything the down home republican loves aren't you Stephen? I doubt that you are, but for some reason you think they have your best interests at heart, which is sad, because you're an intelligent person.

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                                                              stephen-johnson8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                              "You're just about everything the down home republican loves"

                                                              Quite frankly, I find myself constantly holding my nose while having to choose between the lesser of two evils. The latest incarnation of the Republican party doesn't have much credibility for fiscal conservatism. If anything, the tea party movement could spin off into a third party. After all, Paulson and Bush were the ones who started this bailout mania that's steaming the folks. Obama and Co. are taking it to new heights, however.

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                                                              stephen-johnson8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                              The subject of the thread, unless I'm mistaken, is that the doofus CNN interviewed is a) representative of the tea party movement and b)is a danger to the country. My response touched on those points, and carried them to their illogical (ie DHS) conclusion. Nothing tangential about what I wrote - you just need to be more open minded.

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                                                                jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                He's on the wrong thread...again. His technique is to take you off on some tangent. That may have worked yesterday Steve, but don't wear out your welcome. Stick to the subject of the story, please.

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                                                                  jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                  It's off to the DHS story again. Go there by yourself. Good day , Stephen. Hope you come up with something to say that someone cares about someday.

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                                                                    stephen-johnson8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                    Your first comment:

                                                                    "I'm not the one writing these stories, but they are coming up again and again. This is a disturbing trend. Some will try to dismiss this story, but there are more and more reports coming to light. You just can't dismiss all of them. The rhetoric is becoming increasingly uglier. In my opinion it's because of Fox News and Radio show hosts that key in on these words such as socialism, facism, etc. What do you think?"

                                                                    I think that you need to grow a pair, if possible. Either that, or buy a pair of earmuffs.

                                                                    "Sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me"
                                                                    -anon

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                                                                      jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                      Grow a pair. LMAO! What about the ones in your mouth. I have tried to be civil with you, but if you want to trade insults, we can go there. You dark-skinned, Archie Bunker, identity crisis bearing, loud mouth. Thanks for the advice on the earmuffs. I think I heard enough of your pathetic rantings for the day, hell my entire life!

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                                                                        stephen-johnson8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                        "You dark-skinned"

                                                                        Why don't you call me the N-word? You know that you use it in private when you're with your buds, you phony liberal. You can't help bringing up the race card

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                                                                          jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                          The N-word is too good for people like you.

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                                                                            stephen-johnson8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                            A bigot like you can come up with an alternative

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                                                                              jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                              That would be a valid comeback if i weren't "dark-skinned" myself.

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                                                                                stephen-johnson8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                You're really good at using language for the purpose of self-deception.

                                                                                You should apply to work for DHS - you would fit there like a good pair of earmuffs. ;-).

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                                                                                  jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                  Take your teabagging self on. You're simpleton ear muff jokes are pitiful. And quite frankly, it's you that preaches to yourself. Unfortunately, there's no one home to preach to. ;-)

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                                                                                    stephen-johnson8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                    Re-read your first comment:

                                                                                    ""I'm not the one writing these stories, but they are coming up again and again. This is a disturbing trend. Some will try to dismiss this story, but there are more and more reports coming to light. You just can't dismiss all of them. The rhetoric is becoming increasingly uglier. In my opinion it's because of Fox News and Radio show hosts that key in on these words such as socialism, facism, etc. What do you think?"

                                                                                    And then ask who is the one doing the preaching in this thread. You're getting your knickers in a knot over people exercising their First Amendment rights of speech and assembly. The fact that you don't like what they say is your problem, not the nation's.

                                                                                    If unlawful acts were to stem from the demonstrations, that would be a different story. But the demonstrations last Wednesday were peaceful.

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                                                                                      jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                      It's my civic duty to expose (IMHO) what I deem as idiocy. I have every right to speak my mind through submitting stories or giving my opinion in Public forums. We all have that right including them. They had tea bag parties and I used the tools in this forum. I will not apologize nor will i talk about the DHS story in this forum. I allowed you to take me in to that discussion in another post. This time I said, "enough is enough". I can't stop you from making the comment, but i have every right not to respond to it. As for the Teabagging jokes, i am sorry. I sort of lost my temper there. I have no real reason to not believe you are a good person. One that I disagree with, but a good person anyway. Good day, Steve. ;-)

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                                                                                        stephen-johnson8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                        "It's my civic duty to expose (IMHO) what I deem as idiocy"

                                                                                        The guy that CNN chose to represent the tea-baggers isn't all there. But does she represent Obama voters? A lot of folks on the left are more interested in demonizing and then dismissing the tea baggers than in discussing and debunking the issues that they claim to be raising. How does that help the country? The same people who rightly critcized Bush for rushing to war are now steamrolling economic packaages through with little thought or regard to their long term consequences.

                                                                                        But you're right - this isn't worth losing our tempers over. Have a good weekend.

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                                                                        jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                        I know you were just teabagging. I get it.
                                                                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F26vC_1_8xw

                                                                        Spkguy explained it for me.

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                                                                  tadair9198 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                  That lady's spewage about the government "giving" money to them was pathetic. It reminds me of the Alexis de Tocqueville quote warning us that The American Republican will only last "until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."

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                                                                    tadair9198 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                    Funny how that lady complained about FOX but then turned around and did exactly what they do -- which is to control the dialogue and spin it with her own bias.

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                                                                      DarkWizard8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                      "Funny how that lady complained about FOX but then turned around and did exactly what they do -- which is to control the dialogue and spin it with her own bias."

                                                                      Yes, how dare they use a slimy reporting technique when only FOX should be able to stake a claim to bias. However, the difference is that she actually asked specific question of which those questioned were ignored. Then the questioned tried to pull a Joe-the-Plumber routine. Roesgen gave them a chance to say something intelligent, but inane ranting and "because" was all she could get.

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                                                                        tadair9198 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                        so because fox news does it, then it's ok?

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                                                                          DarkWizard8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                          If that's how you want to interpret it, that's up to you.

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                                                                      jordan118 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                      'Because he is"........

                                                                      What a clown. An ignorant clown.

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                                                                        tadair9198 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                        do you know what fascism is?

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                                                                          not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                          Do you? lol

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                                                                            tadair9198 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                            i do. but i'd like to hear a liberal response, first.

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                                                                              not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                              Oh yeah, right, like the answer that was given on the video! lololol

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                                                                          jordan118 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                          do you know what fascism is?>>>>>

                                                                          I know what actions have been considered 'fascist' historically, and they aren't all identical overall. They have some things in common, however, such as the elevation of the corporate over the individual. Certainly 'fascism' requires control, so there are necessary means to gain that control. Invoking an enemy, internal surveillance, controlling the press, equating dissent with treason, suspending the rule of law if only in some areas, and so on. (Sound familiar?)
                                                                          The 'clown' that I spoke of offered this explanation' "Because he is." Sorry, only a clown would come up with that reply. He was merely parroting what his handlers say about Obama. You know, his handlers. Faux news.

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                                                                            not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                            They don't want to hear that jordan, that's why you haven't been replied to.. Now i took the cheap way out, went to Wiki, copied and pasted the definition, rather than go into the long drawn out explaination, now because i didn't post the source, i lost credibility! lol.. It's a laugh a minute on here with the facists! lol

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                                                                              tadair9198 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                              you know so little about what fascism means that you don't even know that you you cut and pasted the symptoms of fascism and not the actual meaning.

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                                                                                not2needy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                I still haven't seen a definition from you,, YOU'RE PATHETIC!

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                                                                              sandhi38 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                              another dumbo of the liberal bunch of pure idiots and walking talking annal cavitys

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                                                                                sandhi38 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                what a bunch of yo yo's out there, fascism is a good thing it was formed in italy to fight the bolshivichs and to fight off communism and SOCIAISM so me thinks me be a fasicismist , and me thinks you all are a bunch of ripe idiots staight from the Obama farm of imoral transites!!!

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                                                                                  tadair9198 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                  this one thinks fascism is a good thing.

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                                                                                  tadair9198 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                  since you don't know what it means either, then what handler are you parroting?

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                                                                                    jordan118 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                    Sorry. I answered the question, & don't take the bait of punks who like to play games.

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                                                                                      tadair9198 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                      by "bait" i presume you mean that you don't like people knowing how completely ignorant you are on the subject?

                                                                                      yeah, i wouldn't want that either.

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                                                                                        DarkWizard8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                        tadair919,

                                                                                        I'm not sure that you understand what Fascism is. It is philosophically very close to Nazism and shows why Italy and Germany were able to co-exist so well as allies. The premise is that there is only one way of controlling society and that is through a dictatorship. Although, there are some fundamental differences in where they claim their power from, the principles of control are the same.

                                                                                        I am often amazed that conservatives think that Fascism equals liberalism just because it was Italy's leftist party that advocated Fascism. Their left party is nothing like America's Democratic (left) Party. It's like trying to say that Communism and Socialism are the same or that one leads to the other.

                                                                                        Nazism and Fascism both represent more of the NeoCon Party view. A one world order that is under their control. One Party, a dictatorship from a Christian conservative, and anyone who doesn't publicly agree with "the Party" is an enemy combatant. These people are as dangerous as the fanatic Muslims they're scared of.

                                                                                        They are also scared of Democracy as it allows for diversity within freedom. To the NeoCon this is chaos incarnate! NeoCons need structure and order. They find creative thinking and any thoughts not along their own to be subversive and dangerous!

                                                                                        Of course, they think they ARE creative and lovers of freedom! How funny!

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                                                                              lw8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                              I don't know. I went to the mall in my hometown and there were about 2000 to 3000 people there. I couldn't get near the place. There was also a demonstration downtown. Both seemed to be quiet without any problems that I know of. I'm beginning to wonder about our news reporting services.

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                                                                              lovemylibs8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                              Does Roesgen have ANY credibility left?

                                                                              http://newsbusters.org/node/3586

                                                                              Her indignation yesterday does not fit with her glee from 2006, with reference to presidential comparisons.

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                                                                                VocalOp8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                It appears the republicans continue to implode.

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                                                                                  sandhi38 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                  and it appears the liberals are still anti american socialist lovers and lovers of themselves!!

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                                                                                  drs316498 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                  I am amazed at the attitudes expressed here, and I think that is the root of what ails America now - the knee-jerk reaction to anything that does not conform to one's own point of view as "radical", "extremist" et al. to just plain "stupid".
                                                                                  Whatever happened to the open expression of ideas, thoughts or concerns without demeaning comments from those with different, even contradictory positions?
                                                                                  Civilized debate has become a thing of the past and I blame ALL
                                                                                  media for that; we no longer have news reporting but rather biased entetainment masked as the news; even local news outlets sensationalize the mundane to attract viewers - "film at eleven!"
                                                                                  Get off your high horses, people, and listen before you respond, without prejudgment - "I can spot an uneducated, unemployed person a mile away"...a recent comment...
                                                                                  Gimme a break - everybody's an expert and not willing to consider, let alone examine, viewpoints different from one's own without name-calling, disgust, or worse.
                                                                                  We've become a nation, from my perspective, of intolerant eletists, hiding behind ideology spewn forth from a clever few and spread among the masses to achieve the ultimate goal - power.

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                                                                                    jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                    It took a D1ck Armey (R) of people to go teabagging on April 15th.

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                                                                                      sandhi38 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                      and it took a real faggot to down play the tea bag bussness,a real imoral liberal, so what can you do for your country?? { nothing but talk!!}| idiot.

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                                                                                        jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                        I think you using the the word faggot in that context makes you a bigot. Too bad you don't have the braincells of a road lizard to expand your foul vocabulary.

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                                                                                          amazed8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                          are you REALLY calling sandhi on his use of the word faggot with your Dick Armey and teabag pun????

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                                                                                            jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                            Did I stutter? What was wrong with my statement?

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                                                                                              amazed8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                              It was just as offensive as sandhi's -- and you know it.

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                                                                                                jovial8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                LMAO! Ok, I take it back, do you feel better now. You have to admit it was quite witty. ;-)

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                                                                                      moe2dmax8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                      The funniest thing I heard in all the pre-tea party hype was that this whole "movement" had nothing to do with being a Democrat or Republican. Gimme a break, Fox News was not merely reporting these things, they had ALL their "talent" give updates for weeks in advance. Dick Armey and Newt's fingerprints AND money are all over this, and if that's not enough, most of the signs in the crowd were anti-Obama...didn't TARP start under Bush and Hank Paulson? Are they really upset about their taxes, which they had representation for, or is it the fact that their team lost the big game on Election Day? Fox News lost my respect when these "Fair And Balanced" guys gave Rush an hour and fifteen minutes commercial-free for his "first national address". They'll regain it when they do they same for a liberal...besides The President...and he, unlike Rush is an elected official. I'm just reporting, you decide.

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                                                                                        thesatyr018 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                        Typical liberal bull. They want to squash or denigrate any viewpoint that doesn't agree with their own. Stalin and Castro would be proud of you. Liberals are the most intolerant people it has been my misfortune to meet and are a disgrace to the Democratic Party.

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                                                                                          sandhi38 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                          Lets put some things in a little more perspective; Unless you have read Obamas two books you are just as ignorant as the people who voted Him in including Acorn. Socialist [ MILD }Islamist. [strong ] Check out todays request by Obama's white to Georgetown; { COVER UP ALL CHRISTAIN THINGS for His Unholy Speech} all you people out there complaining fox news is the culprit on Obamas claims to be a good american , Bull; there are people that are still able to think and rationalize on their own in this country, not saying much for ignorant voters who wanted change: { socialistic change } maybe after this awakening they will want change again: [ back to free america,with choice ,life liberty and the pursuit of happiness,not the pursuit of Islamis ] ,READ HIS BOOKS THEY SPEAK LOUD and CLEAR OF WHAT He is AND WHAT HE WANTS!!!!!

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                                                                                            bruhaha8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                            "there are people that are still able to think and rationalize on their own in this country"

                                                                                            Obviously, you aren't one of them.

                                                                                            "READ HIS BOOKS THEY SPEAK LOUD and CLEAR OF WHAT He is AND WHAT HE WANTS!!!!!

                                                                                            I highly doubt you've read the books but are instead basing your comment on lies spread by Jerome Corsi and his ilk. Maybe you should read the books rather than relying on Jerome Corsi and other liars to tell you what he writes in his books

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                                                                                            sandhi38 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                            Somebody made the statement on one of these comments that it embarresd him to see people doing the tea thing ,my comment to him is go join your commi friends in the commi countrys , you won't be embarresed there!! ofr go join up with Bill Ayers wetherman groups they can't prosecute you for blowing things up ask Obama,his close friend.just trying to please you .

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                                                                                              FishonJohnson8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                              Oh my G O D, I think the story is backwards, more like CNN grilled an innocent man holding his baby. DOWN WITH CNN!

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                                                                                                tdhmostly8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                one good thing about the tea parties......didn't see any illegal mexicans in attendance. Must be one of the few places where they wouldn't show up.....

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                                                                                                  Icantwait8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                  My Fellow Americans, Just remember I warned you. Obama and his tax avoiding flunkies are Communist. The Real American.

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                                                                                                    THOMNH628 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                    maybe she is just ****** over the ratings, the truth of the matter is everyone here hats FOX but they are killing your fav Kieth Blohberman almost 3 to one, shove that in your tea bag and smoke it.

                                                                                                    http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/top-new...

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                                                                                                      lloydm658 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                      People full of hate? Where did this come from.Question#1 How many store window were broken out? How many cars flip over,and or burned?.You leftist just don't understand why people would protest,and not steal anything.So all you can do is try and make fun of citizens for a sort of dull march against wall street big wigs sucking up all the stimulus,while business both big, and small are predicting more,and more job loses even through two thousand ten

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                                                                                                        unwritten18 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                        I predict Ms Roesgen will be working for NBC shortly as CNN should have the integrity to kick her out. What a total fool she was, attacking a protestor she was supposed to be interviewing. She's had her 2 minutes of fame and it was pretty disgusting. News corporations would do well to kick these lefty whackos out. The ratings prove idiots like this are not what the people are looking for. Until she is canned I will watch nothing more than Lou Dodds on CNN. If there's another screw up, I won't watch CNN at all. No big deal.

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                                                                                                          lloydm658 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                          Lou Dobbs is that lynch pin that holds CNN togather,but not to worry MSNBC would love to pick up the pieces when it when CNN go boom.

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                                                                                                            Natureboy8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                            And on and on, the two sides root for their home teams, and take their vapid cheers as having significance.

                                                                                                            Guess what? Obama IS a fascist - he would not have sought top position in a corporatocracy if it were otherwise. Bush a fascist also. I think Obama is perhaps a kinder, gentler fascist, but a fascist none the less, still bent on keeping the war machine going (with a "strategic redeployment" to Afghanistan,) letting the torturers go free, greasing the wheels of big business with corporate welfare and keeping the eye of Homeland Security firmly affixed to the keyholes of Americans everywhere.

                                                                                                            Wake the FSCK UP! This is bigger than the reds and the blues having an endless p!ssing match on the internet, faux news or elsewhere.

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                                                                                                              jackdadawg8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                              I guess it is okay to call President Bush a fascist but call Obama one and look out! If you watch the interview Roesgen she was completely out of line and unprofessional. If this were an anti-Bush rally sponsored by MOVEON or ACORN the reports would have been that brave Americans were standing up to an oppressive government. Let middle America hold a rally and it is despicable. Is it any wonder that the major news outlets are only viewed by the left-wing? This was not a Republican gathering, there were all political parties represented. What very few liberals want to admit is that there were former Obama supporters in the crowds too. One was quoted as saying, "... this is not the change I voted for." And before you say, "why didn't you protest when Bush gave the first bailout?" You need to remember we did. The first bailout was surprisingly voted down because of the high volume of phone calls of outrage to congress.

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                                                                                                                nakeohiored8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                                Both sides are tiring me. The liberals are beside themselves because someone dares to question the president and uses demeaning language toward him...in the way they've been doing the past eight years. The conservatives are saying they're just the loyal opposition...after calling the opposition disloyal the past eight years.

                                                                                                                I believe the policies of Obama are destined to doom us to failure and I commend the concept (and the peaceful presentation) of the "tea parties"...but I fear hateful rhetoric from the right will alienate the moderates who REALLY control the voting process. Face it, if Obama's approval ratings are still so high after all the missteps he's made so far, the man's personality will carry a lot of votes going forward. We need to have a clear and consise message of WHY the policies of this administration are so damaging.

                                                                                                                Did the CEO of GM have to go? Yes. Am I EVER comfortable with the President making that decision? As a business owner myself, NO!

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                                                                                                                  jesse338 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                                  It is to bad no one here understands what these protest were actually about. I bet non of you went on the tea party site to find out why Americans are concerned with what our government is doing. And that massive spending leads to high prices and high taxes. The Government has no money, all the money it spends comes from taxes. Raising taxes on the top 2% won't put a dent in this debt. Taxes will have to go up on not just income but everything to support this large Government and its spending. Plus most of this spending is taking hardworking taxpayer money and giving it to non productive people, programs and politicians. If you want to be a socialist state move to Denmark where the income tax rate is 62%, or England 45% or Sweden 53%. plus high prices on consumer goods to pay the high vat and sales taxes. Maybe you all need to learn what big government is all about. Healthcare is not free it is paid for by high taxes for poorer quality and rationed care. Less choices, less freedom. Do you want the Government to control when and how you would recieve treatment for a health problem. Do you want the Government to tell where when and how you'll go to school. Do you want the Government to hold you back from your dreams. Do you want to pay double energy prices when there are other ways for a free market to change to green that would not hurt taxpayers. One sit to that may open you eyes about economics is cato.org. Read and learn.

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                                                                                                                    texasvtr8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                                    The Pig Book Summary profiles the most egregious examples, breaks down pork per capita by state, and presents the annual "Oinker" Awards. All 10,160 projects are listed in a searchable database on CAGW’s website www.cagw.org. Examples of pork in the 2009 Pig Book include:

                                                                                                                    * $3.8 million for the Old Tiger Stadium Conservancy in Detroit;
                                                                                                                    * $1.9 million for the Pleasure Beach water taxi service in Connecticut;
                                                                                                                    * $1.8 million for swine odor and manure management research in Ames, Iowa;
                                                                                                                    * $380,000 for a recreation and fairgrounds area in Kotzebue, Alaska;
                                                                                                                    * $143,000 for the Greater New Haven Labor History Association in Connecticut;
                                                                                                                    * $95,000 for the Canton Symphony Orchestra Association in Ohio; and
                                                                                                                    * $71,000 for Dance Theater Etcetera in Brooklyn for its Tolerance through Arts initiative.

                                                                                                                    Citizens Against Government Waste is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization dedicated to eliminating waste, fraud, abuse, and mismanagement in government.

                                                                                                                    This is part of what the t-parties are about. THose few dollars you are getting now will cost you and you children dearly down the road.

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                                                                                                                      THOMNH628 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                                      perhaps it is not about fox news at all but the dumb ass reporter who shoed herself to be a card carrying member of the clinton news network and really not interested in the story as much as making her opinion the story, again another example why FOX KILLS the other networks in the ratings at every hour

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                                                                                                                        cuffnuup8 months, 1 week ago

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                                                                                                                        Keith Olberman with his "Mission Accomplished" countdown. Rachel Maddox with her nightly clips of "GOP's In Exile". Chris Matthews who gets a "tingle" down his leg everytime he hears Obama speak. ALL MSNBC. Fox news gives it just as well. So, no one network is less biased than the other...get over it! Think for yourselves. Fox contributors DID help promote and even venue some of the "tea parties", so yesss their coverage would be more. If MSNBC had thought of the idea when Bush was in office, they'd have followed the same course. How many ppl would have complained and posted if that had happened. These ppl were executing their constitutional right to freedom of speech and free to assemble. If you disagree with the message fine but don't name call US citizen for standing up for what they believe in. You do it a post they did it in person.

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