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PapaWolf7 months, 3 weeks ago

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klarissa,

you mean go back through the times in which this country has prosecuted people for doing the very "enhanced interrogation" procedures these memos show the Bush administration authorized?

I agree. Let's look back through history because it shows this country DOES NOT CONDONE torture, illegal wire taps, etc., etc., etc., practiced by the w admin. & its minions.

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  tanglang7 months, 3 weeks ago
  
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  You're condoning Obamas wire taps.
  
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    PapaWolf7 months, 3 weeks ago
    
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    Nope. & I'd like to know how you stretched that one out. Especially since I said:
    
    >>this country DOES NOT CONDONE torture, illegal WIRE TAPS, etc., etc., etc., ....
    
    Or didn't you notice that?
    
    So, how can I condone his wire taps when I just said this country does NOT condone them?
    
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      tanglang7 months, 3 weeks ago
      
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      So why are you not calling for Obamas impeachment as you did with Bush? What's up with the silence on ACTA???
      
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        PapaWolf7 months, 3 weeks ago
        
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        tell me, tang, why you believe he should be impeached for his silence on ACTA. If I understand it correctly, you're equating him not releasing docs about a trade agreement with illegal torture, wiretaps, searches & seizures, wars, etc?
        
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        tanglang7 months, 3 weeks ago
        
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        No. I'm saying that ACTA gives the feds the authority to search any PC, Ipod, PSP that has visited a file sharing site without having to obtain a warrant. At least the patriot act was about national security.
        
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        PapaWolf7 months, 3 weeks ago
        
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        No, tang. the patriot act was about giving the bush admin unwarranted power to spy on US citizens WITHOUT warrants or oversight.
        
        ACTA is an ongoing treaty negotiation & withholding trascripts is hardly an impeachable offense.
        
        You seem to be more worried about Obama not wanting to release papers on treaty negotiations than you are about W & Cheney holding secret energy policy meetings, warrantless wiretaps, indefinite detention, torture & preemptive invasion.
        
        When details of ACTA come out, I'll comment.
        
        So, tang, you're equating a few guys whispering in a corner to a few other guys kidnapping people, beating them & breaking in & occupying others' homes.
        
        Until you realize that these types of arguments are totally ludicrous & that your arguments are nothing more than hatred of anything not ultra-conservative, then it's a waste discussing things with you.
        
        L8r
        
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    wtagg7 months, 3 weeks ago
    
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    Do you believe or desire this to be a tool for the Obama admin? I certainly don't, just as I was against it when the Bush admin created it.
    
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