Prisoners Died While Being Held In Iraq, Afghanistan »
Posted By tehranchik 7 months, 3 weeks ago in Political NewsAt least 108 people have died in American custody in Iraq and Afghanistan, most of them violently, according to government data provided to The Associated Press. Roughly a quarter of those deaths have been investigated as possible abuse by U.S. personnel.
The figure, far higher than any previously disclosed, includes cases investigated by the Army, Navy, CIA and Justice Department. Some 65,000 prisoners have been taken during the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, although most have been freed.
The Pentagon has never provided comprehensive information on how many prisoners taken during the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have died, and the 108 figure is based on information supplied by Army, Navy and other government officials. It includes deaths attributed to natural causes.
To human rights groups, the deaths form a clear pattern.
"Despite the military's own reports of deaths and abuses of detainees in U.S. custody, it is astonishing that our government can still pretend that what is happening is the work of a few rogue soldiers," said ACLU Executive Director Anthony D. Romero. "No one at the highest levels of our government has yet been held accountable for the torture and abuse, and that is unacceptable."
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donald517 months, 3 weeks ago
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Odierno is only a general there now because when he had his division he just rounded up everybody and let Abu Ghraib decide if they were terrorists, some dying in the process - Dumya loved him and he got promoted!
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Hey, the Bush DoJ didn't care if Halliburton and KBR let their female employees be drugged and raped indiscriminately in the Green Zone either as over 2 dozen women have come forward to testify! "Boys will be boys," the repugs countered!
How about more than 16 U.S. soldiers electrocuted to death because of faulty shower wiring by Dumya sole source, unaudted contracts? How about the Florida company that got 32 million to build a police headquarters and never did! How about the police barracks that was built by a dumya contract, but condemned before it was ever used? How about multiple years of failed contractor contracts to train up the Iraqis; so failed that Petraeus as part of his surge package said only the miltary should be doing the training! Let's see if the bush immunity efforts were good enough to save the 4 Blackwater contractors who are charged in the killing of 18 innocent unarmed Iraqis?
The destruction Dumya has wrought worldwide will take decades to correct. Heck, Abu Ghraib alone created another generation of fanatical Moslems that hate us, as well as a large part of the rest of the world! Then also look how much more polarized and fanatical our own far right is - thanks to Dumya and his neocoms.
First best step to correct all this is a special prosecutor to find Dumya and his neocons guilty of multiple war crimes, so we can turn him over to the world court he always denied! -

donald517 months, 3 weeks ago
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How about the American captain who was the first Moslem cleric in the US Army, and also a West Point Graduate? Dumya had him thrown in jail while on leave from Gitmo, without charges in solitary confinement for 78 days, all resulting in no charges. The captain was released from the Army after his marriage and life were ruined!
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The way Yoo and Bybee wrote the torture memos, if tortured folks died, particularly overseas, who was to know?
Remember Condi saying we had no overseas prisons at the end of the first G-8 conference with Merkel of Germany: then, not a month later Dumya told us he was collecting all our high value detainees from those foreign prisons and getting them to Gitmo! -

donald517 months, 3 weeks ago
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We helped hang 3 Japanese after WW2 for the water torture Dumya has allowed! Even McCain unequivacably has called water torture what it is - TORTURE, even if he did cave on his own Anti-Torture Bill when put on Cheney's carpet (allowing the CIA the leeway)!
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Dumya called the war on terror an ideological war, so why did he give away all the moral high ground? We need to get the high moral ground back and can only do so by prosecuting those responsible at the highest levels for preemptive war and torture! -

Endoscopy7 months, 3 weeks ago
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Such a silly story. It is a nonsense story. 108 dead out of many thousand over 7 years. That is not an outragious figure but the silly libs go bananas about the deaths of terrorist prisoners of war.
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Donald is ranting about stupid things. What the CIA did they did with Congress tacit approval. All of Congress was allowed to go to a special room where they were briefed about the techniques that were going to be used. Only one objected and my bet is that was McCain. All others approved or asked if harsher methods should be used.
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donald517 months, 3 weeks ago
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good job endo, to sane people any life is precious; but, to you hard care repugs its the quantity that matters.... 1.2 million Iraqis and over 4 thousand, fine young Americans not enough? I am just flabbergasted when you fools say Iraq is nothing when compared to losing 58,000 in Vietnam. and for nothing too! You idiots just can't put your selfish selves in the mind of a Mother with a lost son from the Iraq war can you? You are an unscruppled pig and un-American, Endo - the pigo!
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so another person who believes in the culture of life shows his true colors - good job, Endo! -
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donald517 months, 3 weeks ago
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endo, all of Congress briefed? Surely you jest as usual! You repugs wouldn't even uphold dem congressional subpoenas to tell the congress the truth. Heck, Dumya wouldn't meet with any congressmen except hehind doors with Cheney holding his hand!
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rimbaud7 months, 2 weeks ago
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The friggin' Muslims would rather be killed than held: being killed by another sends you to heaven. We should just get totally out of the warehousing terrorists business... take no prisoners! If they're bad, kill'em on the spot, and if you're not sure, let'em go until you can be sure and then kill'em..
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