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Posted By RedRiverJ 8 months ago in NewsEven as average Americans were planning to get out in towns and cities to demonstrate against Big Government and Big Taxes, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) surveillance was being unleashed upon them. In fact, unsuspecting Tax Day TEA Party participants were being closely watched during the demonstration PLANNING STAGES in a covert operation that began on or about March 23, 2009.
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RedRiverJ8 months ago
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Our politicians leave our borders wide open, allowing criminals, rapists and terrorists easy entrance to our country while our FBI spies on Americans exercising their freedom of speak because they are tired of being cheated, lied to and taxed to the point it is ruining their lives.
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I can see where average Americans are such a threat to this country. This had to come from the top.-
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RedRiverJ8 months ago
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FTA-According to this unimpeachable source, a single-page confidential directive issued by the FBI headquarters in Washington, DC (FBIHQ) was sent to each of the 56 field offices located across the United States on or about March 23, 2009, instructing the Special Agents in Charge (SACs) of those offices to verify the date, time and location of each TEA Party within their region and supply that information to FBI headquarters in Washington.
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mesodude8 months ago
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George W. Bush's domestic spying
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"Only months after the events of September 11, 2001, President George W. Bush signed a presidential order in 2002 which "secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans and others inside the United States to search for evidence of terrorist activity without the court-approved warrants ordinarily required for domestic spying, according to government officials," James Risen and Eric Lichtblau reported in the December 15, 2005, New York Times. "
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antibrainwasher8 months ago
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What an incredible hypocrite, your whining about the FBI screaning thousands of people openly calling elected officials Facist and Socialist, a sure sign of insanity and delusion and brainwashing by right wing militia level joe the plumber ignorance.
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These coward traitors at tea bag rallies organized by faux noise and financed by right wing billionaire mogals for the purpose of keeping their billions intact, and you idiots were out there like good little brown shirt lemmings hoping for some warm trickel down.
You are a bunch of alamist morons with lots of guns. This is the aniversary of Tim McVey, the poster child of you right wing psycopathic cowards, a military trained brainwashed white trash uneducated idiot with lots of guns and no brains, he couldn't even get a job at walmart, but he was out murdering hundreds of innocents to preserve the power of billionaire, brainwashed by 5 years of Drug Limpboy on armed forces radio, all extremist con all the time.
You cons don't represent this country, you are a bunch of traitors, loyal only to your con ideals, you want this country to fall into facism, where billionaires decide who lives or dies, while making profit off Haliburton. Bunch of lockstepping trailertrash.-
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Klarissa8 months ago
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Your coordinated ranting and raving is being heard by a lot of people who honestly believe that congress is totally out of control when it comes to taxes and new spending.
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People like you are terrifying because you have the power of the press behind you, and this is supposed to be America where there is freedom of speech.-
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mesodude8 months ago
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"Your coordinated ranting and raving is being heard by a lot of people who honestly believe that congress is totally out of control when it comes to taxes and new spending."
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--A handful of Bushbots (iow, a few obnoxious, dangerously irrational whiny cons with sour grapes) is not "a lot of people" and you're the ones who are out of control, Klarissa.
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RedRiverJ8 months ago
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No whining here, just stating the facts.
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What is very amazing to me is you antibrainwasher and our congress seem to miss the point here. Our FBI was told to watch the tea party's while we have terrorist walking across our borders. There are 35 terrorist camps in the USA thanks to that kind of naive thinking.
I will refrain from calling you names, it suits you tho. It's not my style to attack other members. I have enough material attacking congress and the morons running our nation.-
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mesodude8 months ago
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"No whining here, just stating the facts."
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--No. You're "just" sputtering more phony outrage in a sad, desperate attempt to smear Obama. And as usual, we know you're 100% full of HORSESH*T because your "concern" about what your government was up to was all but non-existent when Bush was in office. Anyway, I've demonstrated time and time again that you cons here are like a bunch of crack addicted hookers in the sense that you'll drop to your teabagging knees in a heartbeat to get or keep a Republican in power. Yes, America sees right through filthy lying tax cut wh*re cons. We see right through each and every one of your lies.-
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RedRiverJ8 months ago
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Mesodude, your intelligence once again leaves me speechless.
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YOU SAID..........you cons here are like a bunch of crack addicted hookers in the sense that you'll drop to your teabagging knees in a heartbeat to get or keep a Republican in power.
No, thanks you seem to be an expert on teabagging, so we'll let you stay the expert in that 'field'...............
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mesodude8 months ago
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tangy, as I stated elsewhere, when cons revere a tubby, zit-poppoing weasel like Rush Limbaugh ( I guess we're suppose to have forgotten this loser was promoting "Operation Chaos" just one year ago?) NO ONE believes anything you people say.When will you people accept that America is onto you and that we don't believe you after you publicly admit that your sole purpose for living is to attack whatever Obama says or does? You've screwed yourselves by lying and flipflopping to stay in power so many times that even if you really *did* have some legitimate grassroots movement over somethihng, you're like the boy who cried wolf now--whatever cons say or do is now suspect because you habitually lie. ;-0
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tanglang8 months ago
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"I guess we're suppose to have forgotten this loser was promoting "Operation Chaos" just one year ago?"
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I wasn't part of that. Also, if Rush walked up to me and said hello I would be like "who the hell are you". It seems to me that you know more about the guy than most of the "cons" on here that you say are his followers.
"NO ONE believes anything you people say"
I hope everyone of the dems who were the tea parties read your words and remember that in the next election.
"after you publicly admit that your sole purpose for living is to attack whatever Obama says or does"
Where the hell did I say that?
"You've screwed yourselves by lying and flipflopping to stay in power so many times that even if you really *did* have some legitimate grassroots movement over somethihng, you're like the boy who cried wolf now"
When exactly was I in power?
"whatever cons say or do is now suspect because you habitually lie"
When have I lied to you Meso? If anyone is lying here it is You lying to yourself about the dems who were at the tea parties.
Seems that once again everything you said was pointless and had nothing to do with the conversation.
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hamy8 months ago
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One more time. The same terrorists were walking across our borders 4 years ago. 3 years ago. And two years ago. So don't tell me that NOW wasting our time spying on Americans is bad, when before, you didn't care because you had "nothing to hide." Apparently you don't like being ont he receiving end of what the rest of us have been getting.
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Only when your party isn't in power does the government bother you. Bush is the one who handed over the biggest power grab of a presidency in history to Obama. Don't blame Obama for using the power Bush stole. Blame yourself for not seeing the damage Bush did to the presidency.
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FREEDOM4AMERICA8 months ago
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antibrainwasher, you have NO CLUE what is coming. NO CLUE! obama is for SOCIALISM. If you think SOCIALISM works so well, just look at what used to be the USSR (Russia) for all you college LIBERAL idiots! UGH! By the way, antibrainwasher, you ARE being BRAINWASHED by the EVIL OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. However, you have NO CLUE as to what the TEA PARTIES were all about. I am sure you believed Susan Rosenburg's story, "this is not for family viewing", or "the people out here are angry". ROFLOL! The people were mad...mad at ROBBING YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN of the FUTURE and also, IF you understood the TEA PARTIES, you would be out there too. I helped to ORGANIZE one of the TEA PARTIES and let me tell you, we had INDEPENDENTS, REPUBLICANS, LIBERTARIANS, CONSTITUTIONALISTS, AND....DEMOCRATS to join us. This has NOTHING To do with RACE and was not promoted NOR FUNDED by FOXNEWS or the REPULICAN PARTY! I know....I HELPED ORGANIZE A TEA PARTY. If you folks would only check out the FACTS about obama, where he was REALLY BORN, and when you get your next paycheck, and see you are paying 50% in taxes....guess what? You are going to be mad too. Obama is giving 40% of the people in AMERICA a Tax Cut. 40% don't pay TAXES And are NOT entitled to a REFUND! When you pay your taxes....don't get angry....remember the brainwashing that MSNBC, Keith BLABBERMAN, and Rachel MADDOG told you. THEN, See who has been telling you the TRUTH all along. Something that the LEFT PROGESSIVES in this COUNTRY have NO CLUE ABOUT! The tea parties had to do with so much more than Taxes, and we WILL BE BACK! YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!! Good luck, suckers......you will learn when it is too late. LIBERALS.....you would believe that NANCY PELOSI Was QUEEN if keith blabberman told you to believe it! JUST WAIT!!!!! We are not racist. WE ARE AMERICANS FIGHTING TO KEEP THIS COUNTRY FREE!!!! Good luck Libs.....enjoy living in your SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST RULE!!! You have NO CLUE what you are in for! LIBERALS ARE SO STUPID!!!
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MajJohn7 months, 3 weeks ago
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Just reading what you have to say and how you say it convinces me who the morons really are. So your paint brush makes us all brain washed, uneducated psychopaths, white trash ,unpatriotic idiots. And I suppose you're a highly decorated, and highly educated, born with a silver spoon, Harvard educated liberal? Oh, I forgot to add "brave" for hiding behind the secrecy of this blog so that your comments are completely anonymous.
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Aidenag8 months ago
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Yep, they were wrong in both instances. Sadly, you won't see any Con's saying this. They were all for spying on greenpeace, anti-war groups, and other protests during Bush's term. In Fact, many of them(even lots of those crying foul here on prop right now) were loving the fact that liberals were being spied on for no reason. They reveled in it and said things like "Love it or leave it".
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Typical con mentality really. Hypocritical to the core, and could care less about anyone who isn't like them, and doesn't believe in the same things they do.
So sick of cry baby republicans who are so dense that they can't figure out why something happens to them. when they were the ones who instigated the policies they are crying about being used on them... It's like the Overall GOP IQ has dropped 50 points since Obama took office, they can't even remember what they were doing just 6 months ago now...-
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tanglang8 months ago
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Where you are wrong is saying that we supported the spying on the protesters during the last administration.
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You should also note that the dems who were angry at the Bush administration that are now ignoring the fact that the Obama administration are just as big of hypocrites as the republicans you are crying about.-
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mesodude8 months ago
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"Where you are wrong is saying that we supported the spying on the protesters during the last administration. "
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--Please...We know cons didn't care because all you were saying back then is that Bush was doing what was necessary to keep us safe...blah blah...And, tangy, the people you supported DESTROYED millions of White House email and screwed the Justice Department beyond all recognition. I don't approve of domestic spying anymore now than I did then but Bush and Cheney must pay for what they've done. It's not just the lying and the spying--it's the cover up also. And cons behave as if these missing emails and White House log entries are just some unimportant details. How can cons behave as if Bush has done nothing wrong while he's destroying the evidence of his wrongdoing? Cons?-
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tanglang8 months ago
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I delete my emails everyday. Especially ones that involve any kind of sensitive information. That's just common sense. Not to mention the fact that your computer runs better when it is not all cluttered up.
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Also, I never saw any articles on here about Bush spying on anyone so that argument flops too.
To be completely honest though, I should not even be answering you as I am not a "con" and apparently that's who you are speaking to.
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donald518 months ago
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..with all the threats Barack is getting... the tea parties obviously have likely participants who are guilty.... they want to secede, they want those assault weapons, and they really have a lot of hate in them.... thanks to instigators like Oxy Rush and Faux Fox Facts!
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mesodude8 months ago
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"Are You Terrified, Like the White House Is, By Quakers?
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Liz and Beatrix were repulsed by the news of the White House spying on the Quakers. They found it profoundly risible but abysmally distressing, that this president is so psychotically paranoid, as were Hitler and Nixon,that he would order the Quakers be put under surveillance. How pathetic, Liz and Beatrix thought."
"George Bush, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Alberto Gonzáles each is the 21st Century version of the Nazi Verbindungsmann, or police spy. Funny, Judy mentioned, how the letters 'dung' are in that word, but not funny that we, the people, and the Quakers, are being spied on by our own government. Our own government rendered unrecognizable unless viewed through the prism of fascism and the Nazi mentality."
"Goosestep Mentality and the Führerprinzip
Our Führer, who wants dictatorial, absolutist powers, also requires unquestioning obedience of inferiors, and, like Hitler, has openly revealed his disdain for democracy. Á la Hitler, all power and authority flow from the top in this administration, and like Hitler, Bush wants to transform a democracy into a totalitarian state while hypocritically expounding the virtues of democracy in the Middle East, on which he decided to execute a 21st Century Crusade.
Hitler, Bob said, removed all remaining limits on his power and suppressed all remaining political opposition, as Bush has attempted to do with Congress and the Supreme Court and is now doing even with innocents such as the Quakers."
Horrifyingly, Terrifyingly Dangerous to Our Country: Those Quakers
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aCitizenConsern8 months ago
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YOU KINOW WHY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT "TEA PARTIES" IT WAS "TEETH PARTIES" IT WAS MANIFESTATIONS AGAINST THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT AND HIS FAMILY IN THE WHITE HOUSE MOST OF THE SIGNS WERE "RACIST" HITLER WAS THERE, OBAMA WITH BIG EARS AND LIPS ETC ETC ETC I DON'T SEE WHAT OBAMA HAVE TO DO WITH HITLER AND WHAT HITLER HAVE TO DO WITH TAXATION
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hamy8 months ago
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Um...I don't remember you being upset before about this? In fact I remember you and your ilk saying that "if you have nothing to be ashamed of, they should be able to spy all they want" when Bush was spying on American citizens.
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Natureboy8 months ago
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LOL, join the club!
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I've was involved in organizing anti-war protests for a few years. FBI was sure worried about possible violence from a bunch of people who were protesting AGAINST violence, I can tell ya.
If you want to play this game, let an old leftie share some advice -
1). Assume you are always under surveillance, because you probably are.
2). The feds are not content just to peek through your keyholes and steam open your mail. They are big on entrapment. So pay attention if anyone in your group is trying to entice you into an "action" which would involve any sort of violence or property damage - they are quite possibly looking to suck you into something they can later call a violent conspiracy. Remember, it's always the cop who says he can get the dynamite.
3). If they can't get you with the tactics above, they may well just participate in your demonstration, and lob a rock or bottle at a cop as a way to start a violent confrontation, discredit you and give the uniformed cops an excuse to bust your heads.
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epiphannyy8 months ago
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Aren't you all the same people who defended Bush's domestic spying policy tooth and nail with the defense that if you have nothing to hide, then you shouldn't worry if you're being watched, listened to, and spied on?
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Now that you and your buddies might be the targets, you're not so quick to throw out those civil rights you all like to complain about, huh? lol -
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RedRiverJ8 months ago
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FTA-The source stated this correspondence termed the TEA parties “political demonstrations,” and added that the dissemination of the directive was very tightly controlled. “Not all agents were privy to this correspondence,” stated the source, who compared the dissemination to an older “Do Not File” classification.
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mesodude8 months ago
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BTW, I'm sure cons weren't sure whether to claim the two or three black people who showed up at tea parties were "spies" from ACORN (taking a day off from their work contributing to "massive voter fraud" --maybe?) or just some lefties who were part of the FAUX News and corporate sponsored "grass roots" movement.. ;-P
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nostalgia8 months ago
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Training government-issued cameras on ordinary citizens, many of whom brought their children to an estimated 600 Tax Day TEA Parties is a page torn out of George Orwell’s 1984 and makes the term “God Bless America” more meaningful than ever.
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Bacalao8 months ago
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Red;
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am glad to see the right finally getting on board with the left on this issue. Too bad y'all thought it was A-OK for our government to spy on war protesters. It truly amazes me when people support our government's policies when it violates the rights of others, then they get upset when the tables are turned. I am no fan of the idea that its OK to do this to our opponents but not to me. Hogwash, its not OK for this to happen to any American!!! -
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Bacalao8 months ago
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"is a page torn out of George Orwell’s 1984 " or it a page torn from Rove and Bush's play book.
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I am not condoning these actions, but maybe they were looking at such "right wing extremists" as the KKK, The Aryan brotherhood and others like them. They might also have been looking for tax evaders. I gladly pay my 22.8% and my GF gladly pays her 35+%. and we each make way less than 100k. do I want to give the ubber rich a tax break, not likely.-
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nostalgia8 months ago
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"They might also have been looking for tax evaders"
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That shouldn't be hard to do
Just look at the people in the current administration and anyone they nominate for a position
The "the ubber rich" as you call them are paying 35% also - same as your GF
And don't look now but YOUR taxes are going up when the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010
Cuts in tax rates:
27% rate goes to 25%
30% rate goes to 28%
35% rate goes to 33%
38.6% rate goes to 35%
The existing 10% and 15% rates remain unchanged
Sunset Rule: Without further action by Congress, rates will revert to 15%, 28%, 31%, 36%, and 39.6% after 2010. The 10% rate would disappear altogether.-
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nostalgia8 months ago
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It was obvious that Bacalao doesn't have a clue
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Just look at this statement:
"my GF gladly pays her 35+%. and we each make way less than 100k."
2008 tax rate $78,850 to $164, 550 is 28%
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nostalgia8 months ago
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"Next thing to expect Obama will nationalize the banks"
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The plan for that is underway
Even MSNBC recognizes it and is carrying the NYT article about "back door nationalization"
U.S. may convert banks’ bailouts to equity share
White House: Approach will prevent need to seek more cash from Congress
President Obama’s top economic advisers have determined that they can shore up the nation’s banking system without having to ask Congress for more money any time soon, according to administration officials.
In a significant shift, White House and Treasury Department officials now say they can stretch what is left of the $700 billion financial bailout fund further than they had expected a few months ago, simply by converting the government’s existing loans to the nation’s 19 biggest banks into common stock.
Converting those loans to common shares would turn the federal aid into available capital for a bank — and give the government a large ownership stake in return.
While the option appears to be a quick and easy way to avoid a confrontation with Congressional leaders wary of putting more money into the banks, some critics would consider it a back door to nationalization, since the government could become the largest shareholder in several banks.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30300700/
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nostalgia8 months ago
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Elitism is a state of mine
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Funny that you equate the term "elitist" with money - too accostomed to the wealthy Democrat elites to realize it can mean something entirely devoid of wealth?
According to Merriam-Webster
1: leadership or rule by an elite
2: the selectivity of the elite ; especially : snobbery
3: consciousness of being or belonging to an elite
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mesodude8 months ago
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"Elitism is a state of mine"
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--Freudian slip, no doubt
"Funny that you equate the term "elitist" with money - too accostomed to the wealthy Democrat elites to realize it can mean something entirely devoid of wealth?"
--"Devoid"? LOL...I'm a scareda you, nostalgia.
"I think #2 applies to you "SNOBBERY"
--Don't give me any of your #2 arguments. Just because I think you people are poorly educated doesn't make me a snob. Get real. ;-(
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nonparted8 months ago
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"Average people and like it or not there were lots of democrats."
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red even though your right about this comment but i see some people just cant fathom the truth and are in denial
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nonparted8 months ago
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"So now you're bitching about Obama not having done something you didn't want him to do in the first place. WoW"
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meso
before the bs comes out of ur mouth as usual stop and think . i never mentioned anything about taxing the rich present or past.
the democratic party has u and their followers brain washed really good.
i have good understanding about u and alot others on this link from past posts.
1) critiicizes others
2) cant recieve criticism
3) dont have an open mind
4) dont think things thru
5) dont take responsiblity, blame others
6) democratic party can do no wrong
now before u & ur zombies followers neg me tell me if im wrong on any one of the 6 that i mentioned above so i can keep an open mind about those (so i can reevaluate u) the next time i read one of ur future statements.
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im niether a republican nor democrat so if u cant fingure it out im an independent. since im an independent i can blame both parties for this countries mess.
meso if u were able to break out of the locked box the dems have u in & think back. the last sentence i have mentioned, i mentioned it quite a few of times in past posts.
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beavith18 months ago
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have your GF get an accountant. if she's paying at the 35+ rate at <100k, she's paying far more than she should.
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you, on the other hand, just keep paying in. you'll figure it out. sooner or later.
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k9kssr8 months ago
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"Were they looking for all of those "right wing extremists" described in the Homeland Security report?"
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Probably. They're going to have to hire many more agents since that term was painted with a big, broad brush and includes many libs, if they want to be honest about it.-
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nostalgia8 months ago
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I'm sure they paid particular attention to anyone holding a Gadsden flag
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They might have been stumped by the Dimmit's Goliad Flags some had in San Antonio though
Once they realized that to many Texans it means "I would rather cut off my right arm, than live under tyranny", the people carrying that flag immediately went to the top of the list
http://galleryoftherepublic.com/txflags/goliad.htm
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antibrainwasher8 months ago
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The FBI is serious about protecting citizens from right wing extremists including the faux noise inspired racist white supremacist joe the plumber rednecks NRA militia successionist morons that are inspired by hate speech from Glen Goebbles Bech and other right wing billionaire financed propanda.
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Just today, a marine was arrested with a loaded gun and bomb making equipment in an airport. Remember Tim McVey, there's a great republican patriot for you, brainwashed by 5 years of listening to Drug Limpboy on armed forces radio screaming about UN black helicopters and whatever else you tinfoil hat wearing right wing trailer trash shout at Caribu Barbie ralies for anti-abortion.
The right wing cons left after the brains pulled out of the GOP when the evangelicals and their abortion clinic bomber white trash took over are a bunch of lockstepping brownshirts and they are taking marching orders from Hanity and Drug addicted AM radio racist hatemongers.
The tea bag BS was organized by billionaires and righte wing billionaires, funded and propogated by faux noise, for the purpose of MAKE THE RICH RICHER, the one and only value cons have.-
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Klarissa8 months ago
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Actual instructions to the media by the far left:
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Dear Traditional Media,
Pretty soon, some of you will be assigned to cover the teabagging that goes on at one of the FOX Nutwork's froofy-sounding-but-actually-deadly-serious Tea Parties.
As you may be aware, the teabaggers are quite certain that someone -- maybe even someone who doesn't even like tea -- is going to show up and disrupt the tea-ing and/or bagging, thereby singlehandedly causing them all to look ridiculous. It will fall to you to report on whether this happened, and how it turned out.
In case you are chased off from the event, as was the case here, I'd like to take a moment to prepare you to file your story even if none of the teabaggers will talk to you. Here are the possibilities:
1. If nobody disrupts anything (the most likely scenario, since nobody has yet figured out why they would need to disrupt people who've decided to get together to wave teabags), the teabaggers would have you know that it wasn't disinterest that kept the event peaceful, but rather that their patriotic might scared the evildoers away.
2. If someone does show up and disrupt something, the teabaggers would have you know that evildoers want to "silence" them. Depending on how things develop from there, two possibilities present themselves:
* If someone shows up and disrupts things and the teabaggers manage to subdue them, the teabaggers would have you know that the story is about how tough they are.
* If someone shows up and disrupts things and the teabaggers find themselves overwhelmed, they'd have you know that the story is about what victims they are.
3. If someone shows up and reflects poorly on the event (i.e., neo-Nazis show up in uniform) and the teabaggers are afraid to do anything about it, they'd have you know that the neo-Nazis were really liberal plants.
So please do be aware that it's a perfect win-win for them, insofar as douching your day away as a teabagger can be considered a win. Write it down now so you can knock off early on teabagging day. -
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nonparted8 months ago
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anti have u looked in the mirror cause it seems to me u are the one thats brain washed from the donkeys assews with all ur BS comments
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why dont u look into the ur great and rightous liberal party and i bet u will find alot of rich dems as well
btw it also seems to me that u like paying exccessive taxes so if u can give me ur address ill be glad to forward my taxes for u to pay
this was the reason for the demonstrations
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skyking2p8 months ago
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I thought all this tea party stuff was covered by fox 24/7 for the last week or so. Why would the FBI need to "spy" on anyone?? Poor right wing cons. They so want to feel important again. Look at us, look at us we are still relevant. The cartoon from the NYT says it all.
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You seem very obsessed with Timoth McVEIGH (correct spelling).
I just wanted to let you know that yesterday was the 14th anniversary of the bombing.
As usual, a service was held at the OKC memorial, just like every year since the bombing. To my knowledge, Timoth McVEIGH's name has never been mentioned at these services, only the evil that occurred that day. Also not mentioned is McVeigh's political affiliation or specific idealogies.
What that service focuses on are the names and lives of 168 people that died that day. It focuses on the families left behind. It focuses on the bravery of the firemen, policemen, doctors, nurses and sundry volunteers who stepped up to the plate that day. It focuses on the unity and faith and courage of the people in the great state of Oklahoma on that dark day.
We choose to commemorate the lives of the victims of the bombing. We choose to gather to us the peace and tranquility of the memorial site.....168 chairs around a reflecting pool with the lone silhouette of the survivor tree. We choose not to use Timothy McVeigh as a weapon against those who we disagree with. We choose not to revel in the horror of what happened that day so that we have a talking point on something as insignificant as a Propeller blog.
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fjgalt8 months ago
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Along with the tragedy that occurred in OKC on April 19 was the previous slaughter of innocent men, women, and children by paramilitary ATF and FBI agents at Waco, Texas.
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April 19 is a day to mourn both events.
BTW, McVeigh learned his destructive skills from the U.S. military. It doesn't speak well of the military that they didn't know how unstable he was. How the FBI will learn who is dangerous from simply looking at the demonstrators at peaceful events like tea parties is mysterious. Since I possess a copy of the U.S. Constitution, I am considered an extremist worthy of scrutiny by HS Napolitano.
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Good grief a few,maybe a couple hundred thousand get together to protest the governments wasting Trillions on bail outs of our richest citizens,and it's a non story.However when Cindy Sheehan,and less than a hundred pi$$ idiots have a protest, the main stream media out number the protester week after week non stop rhetorical accounts of their duty to cover events large,and small
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"Good grief a few,maybe a couple hundred thousand get together to protest the governments wasting Trillions on bail outs of our richest citizens,and it's a non story."
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---What? You people got together to slam your new BLACK President who is in the midst of trying to dig our country out of crap pile that was largely created by people who were elected due to YOU CONS' tragically poor judgment and lack of education. Don't try to make it sound all noble. No one believes that for a second.-
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BB648 months ago
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Yea because were the 5% that actually pay the taxes the rest of you use. Why should we have anyone speak for us or represent us.
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As for your other comments of ignorance, please explain to me a few simple questions. First, if Bush was such a terrible leader, why does President Obama continue his plans in Afghanistan and Iraq? Secondly, why when Bush, Clinton or Bush 41 ran a deficit, it was described as terrible, evil or just this side of the Anti-Christ but when President Obama triples the national debt and devalues our currency, it's a great thing? And lastly, when will this guy realize his conduct and actions have only helped to weaken America and strengthen those who wish to do us harm? By bowing to Saudi kings and shaking hands with guys like Chavez, he's elevating those third world dictators to equals with the president of the United States. It is as bad as the Chamberlain-Hitler meetings. It made Hitler and his thugs equal to that of England and the United Kingdom.-
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djn3nunez38 months ago
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No, because the Iraq invasion and occuapation was a war based on fixed intel by the Bush Adminstration that was paid for on credit. Do you think we could pay for that debacle by lowering taxes again?
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I do not agree with our interventionist policies, Democrat or Republican.
The debt racked up is not a record as a % of the GNP.
http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2005/01/nation...
"You'll catch more flies with sugar than with vinager."
"Keep your friends close but your enemies closer."
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DenCuddy8 months ago
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And surprisingly BB, you just happen to be in that 5% like every other member of propeller that pay taxes. So we shouls all thank YOU(?!?) for paying taxes? Your hystorical bull crap is just that, it ruins the rest of your argument.
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If it costs me more to do business here than it's worth, I close the business. Watch states like Wisconsin and Michigan. Those are great examples of your futures. Raise taxes, refuse to protect business from foreign competition, force continue to raise the EPA standards and I think even you can imagine what happens to your jobs.
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Klarissa8 months ago
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"This may be some of the funniest **** I've read in ages. It goes like this: we are so scared of a couple dozen wingnuts getting together to teabag, that a shadowy conspiracy of saboteurs and billionaires are conspiring to disrupt their kinky sex parties powerful protests.
So we essentially have a bevy of pundit-wannabes courageously spurring brigades of like-minded folks into a new American revolution that will stem back the tides of socialism unleashed by the foreign-born communist and gun-grabber in the White House, all of it in the face of a powerful cabal fearful of what might happen if some people got together to wave tea bags. Or something like that -- coherence isn't their strongest suit. Neither is reality.
For the next 9 days, the left-wing blogosphere and left-wing clueless pundits will hammer away with their unreality-based Tea Party smears.
And on the ground, the tax-subsidized and Soros-subsidized troops are going to try and wreak havoc every way they can. Many readers and fellow bloggers have seen signs that ACORN may send in ringers and saboteurs to usurp the anti-tax, anti-reckless spending, anti-bailout message.
Soros? ACORN? Huh? Thers explains:
Why must [George Soros] be constantly spending his vast ill-gotten fortune in a secretive and shadowy fashion in order to spread rumors and lies that there is some shadowy secretive conspiracy behind the actions of political opponents? He's always doing that. Fortunately Malkin is above such tactics, and duly provides proof of the Soros-ACORN sabotage-scheme, in the form of a link to a blog that links to a message board where a random commenter says that ACORN is up to no good. CASE CLOSED. I mean, obviously this is not just paranoid gibberish; the commenter certainly sounds like she's very calm, collected, and sensible:
Groups like ACORN and CODEPINK are nothing but Anti-American criminal organizations. BEWARE. I just stocked up on Pepper spray at http://shop.christmascentral.com/... JUST IN CASE
And, yes, that is a real link to an online Christmas Ornament shopping site, one that does indeed sell pepper spray, although, regrettably, this pepper spray is not holiday-themed.
Ahh. Ok. So the "signs" some people are "seeing" are in reality the paranoid voices in their heads. Seems pretty airtight a case, no matter how much ACORN's director says, "huh?" Playing dumb would certainly be part of ACORN's dastardly plan! And it would similarly be part of the White House's plan, which according to the delusional wingers, is also in on the plan with Nixonian schemes to disrupt the winger gatherings and deprive the world of fantastic comic relief.
Now if there was truly a nefarious ACORN/Soros plot to disrupt the teabaggers, I'd be the first to fight back against those efforts. Why deny ourselves such comedy gold? Every time they gather in public places, we get material like this to work with:-
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Klarissa8 months ago
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So build your papier-mâché tea bags, wingers! We can never laugh enough at your expense.
Still, there's something a little bit off kilter about this whole craziness, and I think Atrios figured it out:
I was talking with BooMan tonight about how dumb and empty right wing bloggers are these days. I suggested that the equivalent on our side would have been if in 2003 left wing bloggers spent all their time talking about their designs for the giant puppets they were going to bring to the anti-war demonstrations.
Yup, that's it. Back in our early years, we had better things to do with our time, like organizing for upcoming elections -- the things that actually matter in our modern political system. But the wingers have never been much for electoral organizing, what with their dreams of becoming the next Rush-Limbaugh style media sensation. Their single-minded obsession with punditry leaves little room for the hard work of fighting for an electorally viable Republican Party. And given that it's their ideology specifically that has made them toxic to the voters, they'd have to come up with ideas and whatnot. That wouldn't exactly play to their strengths, know what I'm saying? I mean, their best idea right now is to wave tea bags.
So the poor saps at the Next Right -- the closest thing on the Right they have to what we were doing back in 2002 -- are pretty much ignored and marginalized, while the rest of the conservative netroots is reading from Code Pink's playbook, working hard to replicate their stunning failure at relevancy.
Bizarre, but hilarious.
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Klarissa8 months ago
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So build your papier-mâché tea bags, wingers! We can never laugh enough at your expense.
Still, there's something a little bit off kilter about this whole craziness, and I think Atrios figured it out:
I was talking with BooMan tonight about how dumb and empty right wing bloggers are these days. I suggested that the equivalent on our side would have been if in 2003 left wing bloggers spent all their time talking about their designs for the giant puppets they were going to bring to the anti-war demonstrations.
Yup, that's it. Back in our early years, we had better things to do with our time, like organizing for upcoming elections -- the things that actually matter in our modern political system. But the wingers have never been much for electoral organizing, what with their dreams of becoming the next Rush-Limbaugh style media sensation. Their single-minded obsession with punditry leaves little room for the hard work of fighting for an electorally viable Republican Party. And given that it's their ideology specifically that has made them toxic to the voters, they'd have to come up with ideas and whatnot. That wouldn't exactly play to their strengths, know what I'm saying? I mean, their best idea right now is to wave tea bags.
So the poor saps at the Next Right -- the closest thing on the Right they have to what we were doing back in 2002 -- are pretty much ignored and marginalized, while the rest of the conservative netroots is reading from Code Pink's playbook, working hard to replicate their stunning failure at relevancy.
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BB648 months ago
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Go figure when there were rumors of ICE spying on the Day without Latinos, the press and left went all ape poopy. When the FBI does the same thing to law abiding people protesting our of control spending and tax increases our FBI films the whole thing. Amazing. The party built on protesting and disobedience is now complaining when someone else uses their play books. Hypocrisy, thy name is Democrat.
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mesodude8 months ago
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Not to trouble you or anything, but the next time you’re going to a protest, the eyes of the government may be upon you.
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And I’m not just talking about local police filming your activity.
I’m not talking about the FBI under cover in your midst.
I’m talking about the Pentagon, too, getting into the act.
According to an MSNBC story on December 13, Rumsfeld’s Pentagon is tracking some of the most innocuous and lawful protests.
For instance, the Pentagon has a file on an anti-war group that was gathering at the Quaker Meeting House in Lake Worth, Florida, to plan a counter-recruiting effort at local high schools.
That group of Quakers constitutes a “threat,” according to a 400-page Pentagon document that MSNBC got hold of.
It was “one of more than 1,500 ‘suspicious incidents’ across the country over a recent 10-month period” that caught the attention of the Pentagon snoops, MSNBC said. Of these, “nearly four dozen” were anti-war meetings or protests.
The Pengaton’s partial file on the spying is available at
DODAntiWarProtestDatabaseTracker.pdf."
--Ruh-roohhh...It's the poorly educated con with selective memory brigade again. ;-P
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BB648 months ago
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I'm not sure if they permit current new papers in your asylum but Don has been out of office for over 3 years. Gates is in charge now and his people seem to be too busy slashing new fighting vehicles and weapon systems to be bothered with anything on the intel side.
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mesodude8 months ago
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"I'm not sure if they permit current new papers in your asylum but Don has been out of office for over 3 years. "
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--So? Is this supposed to absolve cons? Who do you think you are to dictate the statute of limitations for Bush crimes, corruption, failure and incompetence? That's the same sick con logic behind the current phony outrage over the Obama administrations performance.
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BB648 months ago
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Actually, he's not worth the effort. Chavez is a murdering dictator who is swinging his nation into a communist style nation. I've hired several engineers from Venezuela. All have left over the last few years because there's a systematic process where the well educated are being arrested and jailed if they fail to comply with the demands of the state. Something else that is very interesting, Chavez claims to be a man of the people yet the poor continue to become poorer and his rich supporters are becoming richer. Not the socialist paradise he's been claiming to be building.
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DenCuddy8 months ago
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Actually Chavez is a president of an oil rich country that couldn't stand george bush and certainly wasn't going to listen to him. Bush acted like the spoiled child he is and said he was a bad man and you neocons eat it up with a spoon.
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BB648 months ago
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Chavez? You're comparing actions of Baby Hughy Chavez to any of our former Presidents? He's a fat little piece of garbage that is very typical of the communists of South America. He preaches the socialist line but his corruption makes the mafia look honest. In Venezuela the poor get poorer while the Chavez supporters gain power and money. I have members of my team that lived in Venezuela. They're well educated and fled when the arrests started a few years ago. Again typical of communist dictatorships. If you're well educated or can actually think for yourself, but refuse to support the Party, you disappear in the night. "Mist and Fog decree"...
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Well now what did ole Chevez say when that plane hit the twin towers? " That it was Americas fault " Yep that what that greasy slime ball said. And yep Obama is going all kissy face with all of the leaders of countries that want to exterminate us. You wackballs that live in America should be concerned instead of taking up for these creeps. At least Bush put the fear of God in them and made them weak kneed. Obama on the other hand well can't stop laughing at how he'd handle the situation. maybe the Navy will bail his ars out. AGAIN
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mesodude8 months ago
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"Being Polite? So now we want our President to be polite to Dictators and Terrorist cowardly rulers like Hugo Chavez and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
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I think we should invite them to a water boarding party as guest of honor."
--But cons were all smiles and patting one another on the back when Bush made nice with the likes of terrorists like Quaddafi. But I guess if it means you can stay at home, and bitch about how you're not getting enough tax cuts (while other people's loved ones go off to Iraq and Afghistan to die), you're willing to relax your "standards." I told you I see through cons, RRJ and you know how well I see through you, Mr. "I hate McCain...oh Wait...No, I like him now". ;-P
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BB648 months ago
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Yea right. The FBI is under the control of the Obama administration. There were Acorn prosecutions that simply disappeared so I some how can't believe they were now out to "protect" us from the Obama team. They were there to film anyone and everyone at the rallies. I'm waiting for the DNC book burning parties. They're coming, it's only a matter of time....
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BB648 months ago
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Not true. At least in Wisconsin, there were at least a dozen investigations into major voter fraud. Acorn is/was one of many liberal front groups with huge funding from outside our state's jurisdiction. All 527's too so the records they had to produce were sketchy at best.
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The only full report available is one submitted by a few officers of the Milwaukee PD. When Mayor Barrett refused to release this report, the officers did. They're no longer on the force. In February, Mr. Sandvick's unit released a 67-page report on what it called an "illegal organized attempt to influence the outcome of (the 2004) election in the state of Wisconsin" -- a swing state whose last two presidential races were decided by less than 12,000 votes. The report found that between 4,600 and 5,300 more votes were counted in Milwaukee than the number of voters recorded as having cast ballots. Absentee ballots were cast by people living elsewhere; ineligible felons not only voted but worked at the polls; transient college students cast improper votes; and homeless voters possibly voted more than once.
The investigative unit believed at least 16 workers from the Kerry campaign, and two allied get-out-the-vote groups, "committed felony crimes." But local prosecutors didn't pursue them in part because of a "lack of confidence" in the abysmal record-keeping of the city's Election Commission.
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"The Pacifist `Threat'
Disclosure Of Recent Government Surveillance Of Quaker Activities Doesn't Surprise Members"
There area few reasons I applaud the "Tea Parties".
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As an adolescent, I was shipped off to a conservative Quaker boarding school.
The gray haired folks that I rebelled against at the time felt compelled to speak out against war.
In all other ways I would lay odds that those folks where more conservative than many of the folks that post here.
I am talking about plain garbed farmers (no vain collars or zippers) that did not think much of music but would take the time to let there voice be heard when it came to their tax dollars being spent on war.
Those guys are used to being on government lists.
My religion teacher spent world war 2 in solitary confinement, when they found out that he had made a chess board out of toilet paper they took the toilet paper away from him.
He would quote from a stack of different Bibles and if anyone where to make the mistake of falling asleep in his class they where likely to awake with their feet being washed.
They where tough sons of bitches and they have been for a long time.
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cowboygrandpa8 months ago
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"Listen to what I am saying,” stated the source during an interview with Doug Hagmann, founder (NEIN). “The Department of Homeland Security Intelligence Assessment that is receiving so much attention is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg, and the true patriotic citizens of this country are on the Titanic. This is what bothers me. But is goes far beyond that assessment. There have been very significant changes made over the last few years that redirect the focus and assets of the intelligence community internally. These changes have greatly accelerated under this administration, and the threats have been redefined to include those who used to be patriots. It’s not only chilling but absolutely insulting to God-fearing Americans.”
This is about the funniest garbage I've read lately.
Illegal wiretaps were okay ?? The suspension of Habeus Corpus was okay ?? Are these the God fearing Americans who used to be thought of as Patriots ??
Please buy a clue somewhere. This crud has been going on since Hoover was in charge and dancing around in his ladies attire. But back then it was okay, because he was going after the commies.
America can survive terrorist threats, it can survive taxation, it can't survive the undermining of the constitution that has been happening with ever greater intensisty.
There are patriots on both sides of the political arena, the true patriots hate what is happening to our country, not just by the political parties but by the forces outside of this nation that inject their poison into our freedoms, that try to say America must resort to what the Fascist and Communist leaders did in order to maintain her freedoms.
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BB648 months ago
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Perhaps instead of listening to morons like Wisconsin's own Russ Finegold, you actually learn about the supposed wire taps. They were originally set up to listen in on calls from suspected terrorists from suspected terror nations. Now unless the Congress changed the laws to permit listening in on all calls and emails this hasn't changed. As for arrests without rights, it continues to this day. As for free speech and gun rights, both are more at risk under this guy than at anytime before. Hoover or anyone else wanted to see America succeed. Over the last 100 days, I'm not sure what drives the President's actions.
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You told me 3 years ago? That Obama was a bad choice and that he actually fits the definition of fascist more than Bush ever did?
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The McCain lost the election. I wasn't happy about it but I figured we'd see how Obama does. The thought was how bad could it be? Well we're seeing just how terrible it will be. Team Obama puts a spending bill together called the stimulus that is basically a pork laden bill that funds every left wing nut job project rejected over the last 15 years. Rather than pass a responsible spending bill we're now committed to projects that will take generations to complete and trillions to pay off. Anything called the stimulus that spends only 8 cents of every dollar on stimulating the economy is hardly a stimulus. Where was the transparency? The 48 hours or more to review and read this thing? Yea right, he's a new type of crook, I mean democrat.
He is pro-death when it comes to abortions. He's also anti-doctor's rights when it comes to a Doctors' Rights of Conscience. He's anti-gun. His people have been targeting talk radio so that restrict the First Amendment. So tell me, how many Amendments will be reversed or discarded before you complain? -
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And so it begins…
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You are pulled over for not wearing your seatbelt…..and it seems the police are taking a long time to run your plate.
You are pulled out of a line at the airport and searched.
An audit from the IRS come in the mail.
You are at a demonstration and some dude in a baggy sport jersey is asking a bunch of questions, and making provocative statements.
You are leaving a gun show and notice someone writing down your license plate.
Some crazy biker tries to get you to cut another 3/8” off that shotgun.
It is probably nothing…but you wonder….
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My Fellow Americans: I am so proud that the CIA was the first to use Water Boarding. It just shows you how inventive we can be. Giving people who have terrible high gene (LOL) habits some refreshing cool water to cleanse them. I do however wish we could use some real torture techniques, like cutting of a few heads on television, I think the Arabs would be more likely to divulge more information. The sad part about our country is that the majority of people are sissies, probably because most of the ones that run the human rights groups are woman, fairies, or weak men. Lets get tough with these TERRORIST, lets cut off a few heads or whatever. The Real American
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Their penchant for melodrama is the rights most endearing feature. They're desperately looking for a theme to sustain their declining numbers and relevance. Reliably whacky to the end.When you've been weened on polemics, histrionics, and hysteria, this is the natural result. Did you know that Obama has a secret plan to turn over our sovereignty to the UN and implement a world wide government based upon socialist utopian principles? We'll all be forced to become vegetarians and wear natural fiber clothing while riding bicycles to the cooperative farms and reeducation camps. And he's a secret Muslim!
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FBI ! Do not become a intimadation tool of the Left Wing
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Obama Administration. You are spying on Patriots, decent
American Citizens and I for one, will not stand for it.
I am contacting my Congressman and Senator today to lodge
a protest. Do not allow Communist Sympathizing, liberals to worry you with their "Lone Wolf" obsessions andother contrivances towards the right wing when we have real threats
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Welcome, TEABAGGERS, to the wonderful world that environmental activists and anti-war protesters have been inhabiting for the last ten years. Now you are officially a "grass-roots" movement.
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stephen-johnson8 months ago
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After reading the article, it doesn't appear that the FBI was involved in anything more than routine surveillance of a large scale political event. Unfortunately, given the times we live in, that's something that has to be done, regardless of the politics of the situation.
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You have a great point Stephen, and I agree.
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But I do think they need to put their energies where the threats are much more serious than a bunch of people frustrated at high taxes. Like our open borders that let terrorists walk into this country. And people like this.
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Even though this article was overkill, there is no doubt in my mind that many of the career libs in the Executive Branch - like the ones that produced the now-infamous DHS memo - view right wingers as more dangerous than terrorists. Attempts by them to try to criminalize dissent from the liberal orthodoxy can be expected. At the very least, dissenting organizations and prominent indiviiduals can expect IRS audits.
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New typical Con tatic is to claim they are infact the new victims of discrimination. When infact no dogs where let loose on them. Nor where there firehose spraying them down. You didnt even see any police officers in their crowd country / riot gear. As far as we know, no ones privacy has ben violated. For example of such tatics, look at how this concervative Canadian paper worded it:
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the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) surveillance was beingunleashed upon them.
It makes it sound like the FBI were let loose like a pack of ravaging hungry pit bulls. When infact all that was happening was they were just being monitored. Oh those poor teabagers indeed.
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VocalOp8 months ago
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Well, at least the FBI understands that Republicans who would buy into the rantings of, let's say, Limbaugh and Hannity, are risks to this nation and her citizens. Perhaps they should march for free mental evaluations - sorely needed, I'd say.
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ggjh19518 months ago
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They can spy on me all they want. This is still a free country and people are allowed to express their opinion. Are they also spying on Ayers and all of the radicals who are trying to kill us or blow us up? Are they the least bit interested in keeping our borders safe, or preventing another 9-11? Or are they just spying on the hard working tax paying American citizens who are fed up with federal spending?
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NoWayMan8 months ago
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FBI spied on Tea Party Americans
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first...gawd, what a BORING assignment for the FBI.
second...these teabaggers are barely Americans, as evidenced by their very unAmerican actions.
third...we still haven't heard a good explanation for why these stupid tea parties even happend in the first place. America is still waiting...-
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Sageparadox8 months ago
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Because of taxation with out representation. No, everyone gets to vote in respresentatives to be their voice so that's not it.
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It is to protest the wastefull spending. No that can be right either or they would have started protesting along time ago.
It is because the only thing the unifies the concervative movement in this country is to do everything that Fox News, Rush, Hannity, and Glen Beck tells them to do.
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Sageparadox8 months ago
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FBI spied on TEA Party Americans!
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Big whoopdity-do! That's what the FBI does. Go cry on a shoulder of a hippy, war, environmental, or any other kind of protester and see how much sympathy you get from them. Atleast you didn't get beaten by policeman's Billy club, or hosed down from a fire truck. Just stop your whining. You have embarrassed yourself enough. -
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THOMNH628 months ago
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two word, Randy Weaver. If you think any administration is above intruding on private citizens in the name of the greater good your mistaken. Wacko, The Mormons, McCarthy, Nixon, If you own a gun and don't think there is not a file on you your dreaming. The only people this country knows little about are criminals who come to this country undocumented.
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icono18 months ago
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So the govt sees pizzed off soccer moms and aging overweight ex vets and etc as a threat to national security or even better as rabid racists then sends in some Boy Scouts to do a little domestic spying.
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But ya' know the more governments change the more they can stay the same.....
As for the govt meddling in peoples personal life's; well sweeties it has been going on for a long, long time and guess what, it will continue for a long, long time. This is the 'Chang You Can Believe In.' that was voted into office; guess what, nothing changed. -
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buzz618 months ago
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The FBI always shows up at these things. What we have to worry about is if some left wing Gestapo-like organization takes over the functions of the FBI. It happened in Germany, so don't think it can't happen here! Move-on, ACORN, and all those other ultra left wing organizations could provide a willing pool of applicants for such duty. I'm going out for a cup of "Earl Grey" tea, before making any references to aristocratic titles is banned by the left wing thought police! What is next, a "15 minute hate period" for the Lipton Tea man?
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isast78 months ago
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Please! You republican ******** had 8 years. Now, we are actually giving tax breaks to the 95% of the people.
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You had your chances and destroyed the country. So, stay the **** out of the way of our President.
You had 8 years of Dick and George Bush. Where was your anti big government spending protect back then? Where were you when GW lost 8 billion dollars in cash in IRAQ. That's right. No one knows what happened to that 8 billion. Where were you when halburton got no bid contracts?
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AndyJ2157 months, 3 weeks ago
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Conservatives and Republicans have nothing left at this point except lies, name-calling and ugly, violence-tinged attacks. The fake “tea parties” promoted by the right-wing smear Faux “news” network were based on the ridiculous idea that the GOP isn’t a big-spending party. Also, Bush fostered the fearful environment that caused our government to (if it's even true) watch these protests.
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Somehow, the Bush administration committing over $7,000,000,000,000.00 to bankers, brokers, etc. is completely lost on the "tea party" bozos!
For anyone who doesn't know about BUSH’S SEVEN TRILLION, check out the web page that CNBC has that gives a breakdown of Bush’s bailouts -- over seven trillion dollars (as of 11/08) put at risk to help out the poor struggling bankers, brokers and what was “AIG”.
Here’s the web page (which belongs to the very conservative CNBC): http://www.cnbc.com/id/27719011
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