Can Texas Go It Alone? »
Posted By JamesMarcus 7 months ago in NewsDeep in the heart of Texas, there seems to be a lurking urge to--well, go it alone. Residents of the Lone Star State have always been an individualistic lot, and there is some history to take into account: along with Hawaii, Texas is one of two American states ever to have existed as a sovereign nation. Still, it's hard to know what to make of Governor Rick Perry's recent rumblings about secession. As reported in The Dallas Morning News, his comments have gotten a mixed response.
"The empathy Perry has shown this week to those spitting-mad-at-Washington secessionists had newscaster Geraldo Rivera calling him 'grossly irresponsible' and ripe for impeachment," writes News reporter Christy Hoppe, "while former U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said that Perry was being a righteous governor 'standing up for the sovereignty of his state.' What is certain is that Perry has struck a chord. And it is aimed at Texas' ultimate mythology--that because it began as a country, by gum, it could go it alone again."
What do Perry's constituents think of his breakaway talk? On Twitter, at least one Texan sounded alarmed. "I saw a sea of white people at tea parties," said @yves1960. "Here in Texas things were radical. Our nutty gov. was ranting secession!" There was a similar response from a transplanted Texan, @tomthedog: "Trust me, as a Cali boy moved to Texas, it's the non-celebs who are much more embarrassing (like Rick 'Pro-Secession' Perry)."
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GLee7 months ago
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A pure ploy by the Great State of Texas. Besides that, the other 56 states need them!
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"Libs in CA or NY wouldn't want to secede because they are pathetic, weak people who believe in crackpot Marxist ideas that are destroying them (which they deserve), are generally pantywaists, are already broke, and don't have weapons anyway, or else would be too cowardly anyway like you."-
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Goppy7 months ago
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LOL ... you sure to whine a lot ...
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Is there ANYTHING that modern Righties don't whine about?
Boo hoo ... media won't tell our story with a positive spin ... well we're just gointa invent our OWN media.
Boo hoo ... the world gets upset when we re-write laws to permit torture.
Boo hoo ... people are so touchy about the way we are incompetent managing goverment.
Boo hoo ... why caint we use the 'n' word whenever we want?
Boo hoo ... why do we haveta think?
Boo hoo ... why caint we just go back to living in the 1950s?
Boo hoo ... what's wrong with Welfare for the Wealthy?
Boo hoo hoo hoo ...
Don't you ever get tired of being such a cry baby?
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MAN UP, GLee!
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calitennflo7 months ago
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Like Washington...things do not always end the way the majority votes...the decisions are made with money, oil, mineral wealth, etc. Oh, there is a good source there ready for work...the ones that always end in the fast food places, etc. They have all they want...plus someone to do it. lol A real Texan would just have to laugh...I lived in Houston and remember the cops getting tired of giving out DUI's...they had a fight coming. That was just another time the majority enjoyed their two drink limit...driving or doing anything. After all, it gets hot there...and work gets that much harder.
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Washington wants a super race of people...that work until they drop dead! Slavery you know...has been around for a long time...wait until factories are fully equipped with robotics...then what will we do? We the humans? Look now and you can see a pattern...a direction... -
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sonofjohn7 months ago
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"Two days after governor says we ought to secede, House zeroes out the governor's budget,' " said Appropriations Committee vice chairman Richard Raymond, D-Laredo."
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Oh I don't know how easy they'd have in making it alone. Exspecially when they'll be cut off Federal bailout stimulation. Go t o this site to see how fast Texas is spending their bailout:
http://www.texasbudgetsource.com/
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djn3nunez37 months ago
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Texas produces 22% of the domestic oil in the USA. (Second only to Alaska)
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http://www.statemaster.com/red/pie/ene_pet_pro-ene...
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kobzikov7 months ago
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If I believed that Texas would become the world's best retirement haven after seceding the way Mexico is I'd consider voting for Perry, but I'm pretty skeptical about the proposition.
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http://www.internationalliving.com/Internal-Compon...
Something tells me that those who are from blue states don't mind because Texas is a red state. So I'm gonna make a desperate plea to the conservatives/Republicans on here.
Pretty please don't let crazy Rick Perry secede! Talk to him. He understands you guys. You speak the same crazy language that I don't understand. Texas seceding will hurt you too. You are gonna be left all alone with those Socialists and Marxists and you know there is no way you are getting another Republican into the White House without Texas.
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aceofspades17 months ago
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I posted this comment on another thread on the same subject - but it deserves reposting on this thread--
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Dear Texas-
The state that gave us Bushwhacker, rampant executions, Ron Paul & an long list of nut jobs -- good riddance - don't let the door kick you in the ass when you leave
Yours truly,
America-
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fjgalt7 months ago
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What's wrong with Ron Paul? He always considered the wars in the Middle East a mistake and thinks the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and government officials, who swear to uphold and defend the Constitution, should do exactly that.
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tyrrath7 months ago
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Wow - I can't wait! This glorious fundamentalist Christian theocracy which suppresses minorities and women and outlaws abortion, premarital sex and contraception, in which an oligarchy of the filthy rich rules over the disenfranchised and disproportionate underclass, will give the "Right" what they have always wanted. Welcome to Saudi Arabia!
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fivewllms7 months ago
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Texas doesn't supress minorites and women! As a Texas women myself, I am well respected! I am called mam by Texas men, and doors are open held for me, what a terrible thing! And, of course abortions are outlawed, MURDER is not something we approve of, unless we are in a life or death situation. We are proud to be known as different! Also, you better hope we don't suceed, because your cute little car needs all the gas & oil our citizens produce for it to run. We definately could survive, but the thing is we are really proud to be Texans, but also Americans. We support our soilders who are dying for YOUR freedoms. We are not backwood uneducated people as most of the "Yanks" think we are. We are Exxon - Mobil, Nasa, and the University of Texas just to name a few, we are black, white, hispanic, asian. Wanna know why we are so close to God our Father? Come on down sometime, and enjoy our summer heat. You can imagine how HOT hell is gonna be.
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Natureboy7 months ago
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"MURDER is not something we approve of, unless we are in a life or death situation"
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Right, exceptin that you execute more people than any other state of the union, even the mentally impaired, nothing like wiring up a retard and listening to him snap crackle pop with the high voltage.
But that's different than abortion. Abortion is MURDER!
I live in New Mexico. We get Texans here from over the border, and as specimens of humanity they are nothing much. The loudest, most arrogant dullards on the planet with absolutely nothing to be arrogant about. -
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djn3nunez37 months ago
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And, of course abortions are outlawed,
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Um, not.
We support our soilders who are dying for YOUR freedoms
Well we do support the soldiers who have been fighting and dying for Bushes strategic blunder in Iraq! And yes of course we support taking the fight to the bastards that flew planes into the WTC and Pentagon on 9-11-01 whereever they are.
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aetm227 months ago
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If 25% of Texans want to secede from the Union, then part of the State can break away from the rest and those 25% can move into that breakaway part. That Texas can break apart into up to five entities is permitted under their Constitution.
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CRYMTYPHON7 months ago
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While Texas is, without doubt, the supreme state of the Union,
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and would, without doubt, go on to great things as its own nation...
- it won't;
- it can't;
- it doesn't really want to.
And while we can talk in these free states,
with absolute liberty about whatever we want,
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conservatives who bleed blood through their eyes as
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bigG7 months ago
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You would be correct. I am a native Texan, and I have no desire for Texas to secede. I haven't met one Texan who seriously does want to secede(assuming it were possible).
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Rick Perry doesn't have the greatest ratings in Texas for a number of reasons, he knows it, and he has a tough battle coming up with Kay Bailey Hutchison. He is trying to rally his base, nothing more. Guess who his base is?
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fjgalt7 months ago
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Texas, second largest state, after Alaska
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Population: 20,851,820 (2000 census)
Area: 268601 sq.mi, 2nd Land 261914 sq. mi., 2nd Water 6687 sq.mi., 9th
Number of counties: 254 Counties
Agriculture: Cattle, cotton, dairy products, nursery stock, poultry, sorghum, corn, wheat.
Industry: Chemical products, petroleum and natural gas, food processing, electric equipment, machinery, mining, tourism.
source: 50states dot com
With its size, population, and natural wealth, it could easily succeed as a sovereign nation, especially without the burdens of federal oppression. (And, it would be an oil exporter to the U.S., since the U.S. won't extract its own considerable large oil reserves.)
However, the governor was probably verbalizing a lot of the frustration among Americans, similar to what we have felt with our jobs and personal situations.-
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bluetexasvalley7 months ago
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Agree with almost everything you said, except: "However, the governor was probably verbalizing a lot of the frustration among Americans, similar to what we have felt with our jobs and personal situations.
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IMO, the governor was verbalizing what most other Republicans have since Nov. 4:
We lost?!!? No, no, no. We refuse to accept this . We're gonna throw fits and hold our breaths until somebody puts it back the way it was.
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letmegetthisstraight7 months ago
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Let them go. Texans have always had big mouths, let them back it up and secede...there is NOTHING so important about what Texas has that the rest of the UNION can't live without, and we can especially live without its arrogance. they'll be bankrupt in a heartbeat and begging to return to the Union as they find out just how much financial investment is involved in being your own country...ALL their borders might have to be monitored because they are now a sovereign nation, they can't manage their southern border already, how are the going to handle that? Plus ALL the commerce that comes in and out would change...now they would pay export duties on everything and import taxes would be required...YUP...let them go and they can take Waco Wackos with them, along with GW and this idiot Governor who's more invested in feeling powerful by causing a stir than in getting the job done. As they sometimes say in Texas..."All hat, no cattle"....
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bigG7 months ago
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"they can't manage their southern border already"
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That presently is the Federal Government's responsibility, not the State of Texas' as it is a U.S. Border. The people manning it work for the U.S. Government (ICE).
That is one of the few topics I actually agree with Rick Perry on - the USGov is doing a lousy job of preventing illegal immigration.
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charles12345678907 months ago
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Texas would join the other relatively conservative states, which, similar to the civil war would include the southern states, midwest states such as Montana, N and S Dakota, Wyoming, Idaho, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Alaska, and a few other states that would like to return to tradition and family values. About 40-45% of the country is traditional like this currently. Howver, due to the Constitution, we can't break up the Union, nor would it be recommended. Just like the Republicans running things, we will eventually get sick of the Democrats running things, will "throw the bumbs out" in a few years and will return to Republican rule. This is how democracies work.
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rookb7 months ago
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Let the soveriegn nation of Mexico buy Texas back. We will keep the oil rights, start a corporation and give every U.S. citizen an equal ammount of stock. If we do not do this we are in danger of having another Dodo come to washington, like the last one.
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johlit477 months ago
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If TEXAS seceeds GA. will be right behind her. everyone thought the south was weak when the war between the states started guess what THEY WAS WRONG THEN AND ARE WRONG NOW without the south you wouldnt have a country, i am a georgia boy but i can say god bless texas!!!!!
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bluetexasvalley7 months ago
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You don't get it. The only part of Texas that is "The South" is East Texas. The rest is completely different -- about four kinds of completely different, actually.
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Part of Texas (East) is the South.
North Texas is the Plains States.
West Texas is the Southwest.
South Texas is Latin America.
And Central Texas (Austin) is a land of its own.
If you've only visited one or two parts of Texas, you haven't really visited Texas and can't possibly know what I am talking about..
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texasgirlathrt7 months ago
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Texas could probably do it alone. We are proud of our State and the USA. We like a few million other citizens of the United States are tired of baling out big companies. Our government is making it too easy for the big companies to mismanage, and too easy for people to stay on Welfare and depend on the government to support them. I believe in helping people but only people that help themselves. How did we get to be a country that would prefer to support some welfare recipents that are too damn lazy to work and then not support our senior citizens after they retire. I work in healthcare and see the elderly make decisions as to whether to buy their meds or eat. How sad! So go for it TEXAS, I will move back and support it. Support your soldiers!!!!
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