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antibrainwasher8 months, 1 week ago
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One more nail in the coffin of superstition and Intelligent design and creationism.
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Why do the religious morons oppose research? Because it destroys their beloved supersitition.
There is no afterlife, morons. Religion is a steaming pile of liquid crap. There is no evidence for your beloved creationism, where the earth was created 5000 years ago by the floating head of Charleton Heston.
As science peels away at the layers of evidence of how life began on this planet, evolving "by acquisition", the creation mytology you teach you ignorant inbred children looks kinda stupid, even to a bible thumping homeschooler.-
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Endoscopy8 months, 1 week ago
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ROTFLMAO
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abw obviously did not read the story or if he did does not understand it. It is a blow against evolution not creationism. The more we learn about microbiology the more impossible evolution becomes. You need to get rid of your brainwashing.-
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cloud158 months, 1 week ago
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Endo you made this claim in another thread that microbiology is disproving evolution and I asked for some examples of this claim. You never did respond.....so lets try again. Care to explain how microbiology is disproving evolution?
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Endoscopy8 months, 1 week ago
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If you look at the complexity of a single cell organism it is astounding. The DNA has in it the code to make the protein engines that it has. The process to create a protein engine is complex and has to be done in a specific sequence.
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A unzip protein engine unzips a specific part of the DNA.
A template maker goes to the beginning of that opened sequence.
It is fed proteins by a mover protein engine.
It takes the correct protein to place as a match to the DNA.
When it finishes a mover takes the template to a protein sequence engine.
Movers push proteins to it while it uses the template to create the protein sequence needed.
When finished a mover takes the protein to a shaping engine.
The shaping engine makes the protein sequence be in the required shape.
A mover takes the shaped piece to where the new protein engine is being made.
Meanwhile the the unzipper has rezipped the DNA and unzipped the next sequence.
This sequence happens for each piece of the engine. Many of them have 30 or 40 pieces.
This is very complex engineering. The engines have to be put together in a specific sequence. Everything has to be done in the exact sequence or the process fails.
This is an example of what I am talking about. It blows my mind that these unintelligent pieces of protein act in this fashion. How do they know when to do this? How do they know the correct part of the DNA for a specific engine to be made? Etc. etc. etc.-
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vader828 months, 1 week ago
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Although the origins of the first cellular life are somewhat of a mystery to modern science, the theory of evolution is the most valid explanation for the diversity of life that we see today. Science is not based on absolute truths, in that in light of compelling evidence old ideas may be altered or refuted. This article does not refute evolution, but is cause to rethink how cilia came to be in eukaryotic cells. Regarding the formation of DNA, scientists have been able to create self replicating RNA in the laboritory setting. As you probably know RNA is a single helix, essentially half of a DNA code, given that these RNA strands can emerge from the chemical reactions in this solution, it is not that far fetched that through enough trial and error that DNA would form the same way.
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cloud158 months, 1 week ago
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Yes DNA replication and protein synthesis are incredibly complex processes that require the precise action and timing of numerous proteins working in unison to create a final product.
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The answer to all of your questions lie within the genes of DNA. DNA codes for all the proteins needed in these processes. When conditions inside or outside the cell are right (this is realized through receptors) certain genes inside the DNA are switched on. When these genes are turned on they are used to create certain proteins which have specific functions. When these proteins carry out their functions conditions have once again changed within the cell and genes are once again turned on and off.
They know the correct portion of DNA because certain sets of nucleic acids act as a code saying "start here" and this is where transcription begins. A protein binds to this set of DNA to act as a flag for Helicase to come over and start unzipping. And the process as you explained begins.
I agree with you that it is an incredible process of enormous complexity. But that in no way conflicts with evolution, it is a part of evolution. These processes began as simple things. But over billions of years they have evolved into the complex things we see today.
I just think crediting God with this just because it is so complex that you don't understand how it came to be is the lazy way out. Your questions all have answers, you just have to take the time to figure them out.-
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Endoscopy8 months, 1 week ago
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You and vader need to take off the anything is possible over time glasses that evolutionists wear. There are many protein engines in a cell. That makes this process of dividing incredibly complex. Everything has to be duplicated. Any mistake and that means a failed cell. This process does not fail unless there has been a change to the DNA. Changes to the DNA are destructive. This has been the facts that science has found. There are also other things inside cells that are as complex.
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The concept that science is not based on absolute truths is a foolish one. Only in the area of evolution does that apply. Science is based on the absolute facts that always work. It is out of vogue these days to talk about scientific laws but the idea is still there.
What you ae asking people to believe is that somehow without the presence of oxygen a cell all of a sudden has all of the very complex inter related parts of a cell just came into being and at that very point in time oxygen is introduce. Not very likely. All of the very intricate workings of the simplest single cell organism just happen to exist. The probabilities of that approaches 0.-
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quackpot8 months, 1 week ago
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1) While most mutations are detrimental, Some mutations are highly beneficial because they allow the organism to adapt to a changing environment. This is demonstrated fact.
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2) A failed cell is totally irrelevant to anything except, perhaps to that one cell.
3) Religion is based on the absolute truth that any observation can be interpreted as "God did it". This makes religion totally unacceptable as a means for elucidating the natural laws that govern our universe (whether God made them or not).
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cloud158 months, 1 week ago
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Endo for some reason you're confusing complexity with divinity. Just because something is complex does not mean that God made it so.
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And no, changes to DNA are not always destructive. If that were the case, we would not be here.
Why is the probability 0? Because you don't understand how it happens? Please provide evidence of how it is a possibility of 0, and what exactly that possibility is.
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