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Candida7 months, 2 weeks ago
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FTA, Ms Pelosi: "What they did tell us is that they had some legislative counsel -- the Office of Legislative Counsel opinions that they could be used, but not that they would."
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"And I have always been truly faithful to never disclosing, because that is what the law is, what happens in those briefings."
I'm sorry Ms. Pelosi, but this is weak, very weak. I'm sure those briefings weren't very open, but this shows that waterboarding was discussed, and that you knew that they were preparing the legal documents to cover their asses. OK, you didn't disclose that information to anybody else, but did you object to the people who briefed you? Did you tell them that this is torture and this is not what America is about? If you want the role of a puppet, then you are definitely in the wrong job.
We've all known for years now that torture was taking place, we just didn't have the official documents. I don't remember many members of the Congress clamoring for them. I guess Mr. Bush's astonishing lack of curiosity is contagious and it has infected members of Congress as well. There have always been a few brave souls who voted against wars, condemned torture, fought against illegal wiretapping, but they were a small minority.
Frankly, I don't care how many Democrats are implicated. I think the US would benefit from a thorough housecleaning.-
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lfergie8127 months, 2 weeks ago
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Be aware that the Republicans had full control of congress in 2002 and all Democrats were puppets at that time. Now that the table has turned, the Republicans are protesting in the same manner the Democrats did in 2002 when the Republicans shut them out of meetings that discussed policy.
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Now if they want to investigate something they should investigate this.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/feb2002/chen-f04...-
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spkguy7 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Now if they want to investigate something they should investigate this."
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That may just be a little too difficult...
"[WTC 7] contained offices of the FBI, Department of Defense, IRS (which contained prodigious amounts of corporate tax fraud, including Enron’s), US Secret Service, Securities & Exchange Commission (with more stock fraud records), and Citibank’s Salomon Smith Barney, the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management and many other financial institutions.
The SEC has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed [by the collapse of WTC 7]. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom. ..."Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive," said Max Berger of New York's Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. "This is a disaster for these cases."
Inside [WTC 7 was] the US Secret Service's largest field office with more than 200 employees. ..."All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building," according to US Secret Service Special Agent David Curran.
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