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Posted By pc25 7 months, 2 weeks ago in NewsA new national poll suggests that a majority of Americans oppose legalizing same sex marriages — but there's a vast generational divide on the issue.
Fifty-four percent of people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Monday say that marriages between gay or lesbian couples should not be recognized as valid, with 44 percent suggests they should be considered legal.
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TimALoftis7 months, 2 weeks ago
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The real headline from this article;
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CNN Poll: Generational gap on gay marriage
'Among those 18 to 34 years old, 58 percent said same-sex marriages should be legal. That number drops to 42 percent among respondents 35 to 49 years old, and to 41 percent for those 50 to 64 years of age. The poll indicates that only 24 percent of Americans 65 and older support recognizing same-sex marriages as valid.
It's so nice that our nations young people seem to get it on issues of race and homosexuality. -
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Wolfie20077 months, 2 weeks ago
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beavith17 months, 2 weeks ago
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i worry that i'll have to explain what being gay means to my kids and grandkids before there's any need to.
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being gay is a lifestyle choice. being such, knock yourself out.
its almost as if another option you get presented when you are old enough to make a choice.
to equate that with man-woman marriage somehow seems wrong.
if its all about making sure that property rights can flow through your partner and things like medical power of attorney, well, get it protected by law. more power to you.
calling it 'marriage' somehow seems wrong.
will NAMBLA ask for "marriage" next? i'm not a big fan of slippery slope arguments, but I can't see any reason why they couldn't demand it too.-
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Tangent0017 months, 2 weeks ago
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"will NAMBLA ask for "marriage" next? i'm not a big fan of slippery slope arguments, but I can't see any reason why they couldn't demand it too."
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Because of a concept called 'age of consent'. The law has determined that children do not have the capacity to make a truly informed decision until certain ages. By and large, 12-year-olds simply cannot comprehend the full consequences of their choices and therefore cannot be considered consensual participants, particularly in regards to an adult power figure.
NAMBLA can demand all they want, but there is demonstrable harm caused by pedophilia, therefore the law is compelled to protect the children.
Same-sex marriage, on the other hand, causes no demonstrable harm whatsoever in and of itself.
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Bacalao7 months, 2 weeks ago
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I am still trying to figure out what is wrong with gay or even plural marriages. If one is for saving the sanctity of marriage then maybe you should start trying to outlaw divorce. Take Rudy for example. He refused to attend the marriage of the couple who took him in when he was in need just because the are gay. This man who has been divorced three times obviously has no idea what the sanctity of marriage is. At 43 years of age I still haven't been married. This is because my first marriage will also be my last. how is that for understanding the sanctity of marriage. BTW I am planning to ask my girl soon. WOOT.
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willottica7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Wolfie, this is the second time I have heard of this "movement" to legalize plural marriage in Canada. And never have I heard it from a Canadian. As a member and candidate for one of the leftest political parties we have, if this were anything more than a fringe movement, I think I would have heard about it.
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But it seems you've read your talking points and are determined to spread them, no matter how inaccurate.
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northpost097 months, 2 weeks ago
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GAY MARRIAGES:
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This had been along battle over the years. The media talk about gay marriages and recent changes to laws around the world allowing gays to marry.
People around the world and the activists are challenging the establishment and fighting for the right to marry, but what are they really fighting for?
Is it about their rights, total acceptance of t he society and the state , equality or something more??
What is marriage by t he way??
We all know that Marriage is about the union of two individuals, who aimed to have a lasting and successful relationship or a bond of two people but we should not also forget that this is a social, religious, spiritual or legal issue of the union of two individuals or matrimony.
Marriage is defined by the dictionary as an institution in which interpersonal relationships (usually intimate and sexual) are acknowledged by the state, by religious authority, or both, it is often viewed as a contract. And also there's this Civil marriage which is the legal concept of marriage as a governmental institution, in accordance with marriage laws of the jurisdiction. If recognized by the state, by the religion(s) to which the parties belong or by society in general, the act of marriage changes the personal and social status of the individuals who enter into it…
At this point the majority cannot accept gay marriages but this doesn’t mean the issue will stop here the political and legal debate about gay marriage will continue, it will be a long battle. Except in other countries like Netherlands, Belgium, Canada, Norway, South Africa, Spain and Sweden and some electoral candidate in other countries will ride on the issue to gain votes and sympathizers..
So lets take a look on those countries that legally recognize gay marriages. Whats the effect after they legalize it? Whats the impact in society and other institution. Did it make a difference or its still the same??
At this point, though there are lots of people who became educated about this issue and some who recognize it but there are still people who can’t accept it socially, religiously or morally. And it so happen that the majority of people in some countries dis agree with gay marriages.
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Poulenc7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Oh, give it up, pc.! The majority of people don't get to (vote to) deny or abrogate the rights of any group of citizens. Period.
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Stop trying to prevent the sunrise. Gay marriage is here. More states will embrace it. It will become universal. And the sky won't fall.
Find another group to discriminate against for no reason other than their presence on the planet makes you nervous.
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beavith17 months, 2 weeks ago
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only the liberal states. NH, a solidly red state for years, has been trending blue thanks to the 'we're not Bush' brigade. now that Bush is gone, we've added a republican senator and republican house member in very recent special elections filling empty seats.
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what's going to happen is that the pendulum is going to swing back, hard, when liberal overreach is exposed for what it is.
for the record, i have no problem with whatever two consenting adults want to do. i have a real problem with getting beaten over the head with what those two adults want to do.
does that make me a prude? no. does that make me a bigot? no. does it make me nervous? nope.
you may speak for the majority in your mind, but you don't speak for me or my family.-
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willottica7 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Beaten over the head"??? They're not asking you to supervise the consummation! They just want to be married.
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If you don't know them, you won't care. Unless your significant other regularly beats you over the head with a newspaper containing marriage announcements, you will NEVER be beaten over the head with a gay marriage.
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Newenglander7 months, 2 weeks ago
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"People who say they have a gay friend or relative support same-sex marriage," Holland notes. "Most of those who say they don't know anyone who is gay oppose gay marriage." Maybe some of you(pc25,Endoscopy,Locky12,and especially Puppy 2007) should make an effort to befriend a gay couple.
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Poulenc7 months, 2 weeks ago
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But, beavith, above, gay people have been "beaten over the head," often literally, just for being who they are for many, many years.
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Not to mention by incessant assertions of straightness, and with what straights "want to do."
Ironic that some straight people can claim they don't want to hear anything more about or from gays when they think nothing of proclaiming their heterosexuality in a thousand ways. The mere assertion of having a girl- or boyfriend of the sex opposite one's own being one.
So sorry that you--and your family, whom you've consulted on this matter, I'm sure--find the business of gay marriage de trop.
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beavith17 months, 2 weeks ago
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...But, beavith, above, gay people have been "beaten over the head," often literally, just for being who they are for many, many years...
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this is where we actually agree. nobody should be beaten up, physically or legally for their orientation.
i get that. that can be resolved with laws. of which, marriage has no necessary inclusion.
teaching my kid in kindergarten that "Timmy HasTwo Daddys" crosses the line that I don't get. its not the function of the public schools to educate my kid on what's a proper sexual or, for that matter, religious orientation.
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Tangent0017 months, 2 weeks ago
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"teaching my kid in kindergarten that "Timmy HasTwo Daddys" crosses the line that I don't get."
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Who is proposing that? That is an urban myth propagated for political purposes. During the Prop 8 battle there were even statement being made that the initiative would require teaching about gay sex in elementary school. Utter hogwash!-
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beavith17 months, 2 weeks ago
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where is that link from the prop 8 foes.
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here's one.
http://www.massnews.com/maygsa.htm#Nutshell
and here's a more even handed discussion.
http://mormonsformarriage.com/?p=44=1
its no myth. its actually the crux of the disagreement.
hogwash? not for the people that are made uncomfortable by a portion of the population making demands on others.
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willottica7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Teaching children that homosexuality exists is not the same as condoning it. In fact, you have to teach your kids about it in order to tell them it's wrong (if that's what you think you should do).
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Those who are afraid to discuss truth (i.e. some children WILL have 2 dads) doom themselves and their children to ignorance. -
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ranchhasawhiteass7 months, 2 weeks ago
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I'll answer you questions. Yep I am a fine specimen of what a man is all about.
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Mean spirited? Heck I have to hide if'n I want privacy. People just won't leave , Don't like to brag but I am a very interesting person.
Betcha if'n you would try and be normal, people might invite you over once in a while. Then again maybe not.
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toph19737 months, 2 weeks ago
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Why is it that the right consistently thinks that they can tell people how they can live? Why are they so intolerant of people that are different from them? If it's not hurting you then why bother? Do you not have anything better to do with your lives? I loathe how the right thinks they are the moral authority. Clearly that is not the case. I lose it when Republicans talk about Morals, when they would like to take away a womans freedom to choose (completely unamerican). Or as evidenced with this and the ignorant racist comments from the usual suspects.
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oneironaut4207 months, 2 weeks ago
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What matters is that -all- people are treated equally. "All" includes homosexuals, and "equally" means that civil rights granted to one group are granted to all groups...which includes homosexuals, as previously mentioned.
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Hope that clears it up for some of you. 8)
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johnstontemple7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Gays should be allowed to marry. How are they going to affect the heterosexuals. If a gay couple decides to get married, it doesn't affect my life in any way. I ask the people who are against it, why does it bother you and how do gay marriages affect your happiness. Homophobia shouldn't be tolerated just like racism. I know many gay couples who have been together much longer that married heterosexual couples. They should get the same legal benefits as the rest of us.
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jordan117 months, 2 weeks ago
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The right to enter into legally recognized committments already exists. Equal rights means equal rights. You can't pass 'laws' to deny rights. You can only attempt to pass Constitutional ammendments. And should an ammendment be passed and ratified that denies one group the same right that others have, you can kiss our way of life bye bye.
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