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Posted By pc25 7 months, 2 weeks ago in Political NewsThe media wail about "torture," but are noticeably short on facts.
Liberals try to disguise the utter wussification of our interrogation techniques by constantly prattling on about "the banality of evil."
Um, no. In this case, it's actually the banality of the banal.
Start with the fact that the average Gitmo detainee has gained 20 pounds in captivity. There's even a medical term for it now: "the Gitmo gut." Some prisoners have been heard whispering, "If you think Allah is great, you should try these dinner rolls."
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pc257 months, 2 weeks ago
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Farther up the parade of horribles was "walling," which I will not describe except to say Elliot Spitzer paid extra for it.
Contrary to MSNBC hosts who are afraid of bugs, water and their own shadows, waterboarding was most definitely not a "war crime" for which the Japanese were prosecuted after World War II -- no matter how many times Mrs. Jonathan Turley, professor of cooking at George Washington University, says so.
Given what the Japanese did to prisoners, waterboarding would be a reward for good behavior.
It might be: waterboarding PLUS amputating the prisoner's healthy arm, or waterboarding PLUS killing the prisoner. But waterboarding on the order of what we did at Guantanamo would be a reward in a Japanese POW camp.
To claim that the Japanese -- architects of the Bataan Death March -- were prosecuted for "waterboarding" would be like saying Ted Bundy was executed for engaging in sexual harassment.
What Americans need to understand is that under liberals' own "laws of war," they will invent apocryphal incidents from history in order to give aid and comfort to America's enemies and to undermine those who kept us safe for the past eight years.-
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spkguy7 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Given what the Japanese did to prisoners, waterboarding would be a reward for good behavior."
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Oh...Question... So, what do you think these Japanese soldiers got as sentence For "Waterboarding" American and Allied soldiers?
"John McCain. On November 29, 2007, Sen. McCain, while campaigning in St. Petersburg, Florida, said, "Following World War II war crime trials were convened. The Japanese were tried and convicted and hung for war crimes committed against American POWs. Among those charges for which they were convicted was waterboarding."
It was a crime then and its a crime now!
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Here are the words of Captain Chase Nielsen as he testified about the experience at a war crimes trial in 1946.
MARCO WERMAN: The United States has some history of prosecuting cases of water-boarding, but from a different perspective, that of the victim. In World War Two, American prisoners of the Japanese were subjected to the infamous "water torture." One prisoner was an aviator, Captain Chase Nielsen. He was captured after a daring raid on Japan soon after the attack on Pearl Harbor. After the war, Captain Nielsen gave a graphic description of water boarding at the war crimes trial of Japanese General Shigeru Sawada in 1946. "I felt more or less like I was drowning, just gasping between life and death," Nielsen told the court. Sawada was ultimately acquitted of responsibility in that case. But other Japanese soldiers did go to prison for water-boarding. One military police sergeant got a life sentence for torturing Philippine civilians, chiefly by water-boarding. Captain Nielsen died in 2007 at the age of 90. The year before his death, he said he hoped men and women in the service today will live "their lives in accordance with the military rules and laws of war.”
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nostalgia7 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Twenty-one years earlier, in 1947, the United States charged a Japanese officer, Yukio Asano, with war crimes for carrying out another form of waterboarding on a U.S. civilian. The subject was strapped on a stretcher that was tilted so that his feet were in the air and head near the floor, and small amounts of water were poured over his face, leaving him gasping for air until he agreed to talk."
Even if that description of what Asano did were true -- and it isn't -- the only relevant word in the entire paragraph is "civilian."
Any mistreatment of a civilian is a war crime. So every other part of that paragraph is utterly irrelevant to the treatment of prisoners of war, much less non-uniformed enemy combatants at Guantanamo, who could have been shot on sight under the laws of war.
Now how many times have we heard on Propeller that the Japanese were prosecuted for war crimes for waterboarding??-
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Beau78907 months, 2 weeks ago
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I can't find anything other than a YouTube video some anonymous person made stating that Yukio Asano didn't use waterboarding. I found several articles with citations to sources stating that we charged Yukio Asano for waterboarding, along with several other war crimes.
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Gee, do ya think Ann Coulter might have been trying to sneak another lie through the right-wing media machine? She's never been inaccurate before, right?
Regarding the distinction between civilians and "enemy combatants," maybe the Japanese called the civilian they waterbaorded an enemy combatant.
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scott42617 months, 2 weeks ago
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No....watching FOX News and listening to the conservative bobble heads IS torture....
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http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/05/08/media-ma...-
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pc257 months, 2 weeks ago
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no originality my friend
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the liberal electorate doing the biding of their msm masters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7ht0a2-OnA&fea...
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pc257 months, 2 weeks ago
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distort. with what you people have posted about Bush these past several years........dont't make me laugh.......and how about some originality instead of parroting coulter.
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the liberal voter being schooled by the msm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7ht0a2-OnA=related
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billcorno7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Why is this at the top of the list when I go to the Propeller website, even though it's got few votes? This gives it an importance all out of proportion to it's content, I think.
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Torture is illegal in most civilized countries in the world. America, under George W. Bush, maybe wasn't the most civilized, one could deduct. I did, anyway. -
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spkguy7 months, 2 weeks ago
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“No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat or war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.”
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- U.N. Convention Against Torture, signed into U.S. law by
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pokydoke7 months, 2 weeks ago
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How is it we are supposed to give any credence to this post by pc25? Ann Coulter is a hate monger out to make a buck off of ignorant poorly educated dopes like pc25. MSNBC does a better job of reporting the news and commentary than Fox does. They don't lie and mislead like Fox and they don't promote fear and loathing like Fox. If you don't like MSNBC then don't watch.
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