Cheney backs "Entertainer" LIMBAUGH over Patriot Powell »
Posted By GWHayduke 6 months ago in Political NewsWASHINGTON - Dick Cheney made clear Sunday he'd rather follow firebrand broadcaster Rush Limbaugh than former Joint Chiefs chairman Colin Powell into political battle over the future of the Republican Party.
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GWHayduke6 months ago
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The purification of the Republican party continues with support from the bottom of the American barrel.
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The American Taliban's leader, El Rushbo garners the support of the previous vice president and chief hawk.
Cheney is becoming more of a fringe nutcase each time he opens his totalitarian mouth.-
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b-happy6 months ago
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How is Powell a Patriot when he lied to us about WMD's and got us into the War in Iraq? I'm just curious about that because the only thing I see that he has done for you Libs. is back Obama. So if he lied to us and got us into a war he is Baaadddddd(sheep tone). But if he now backs Obama he is Gooooodddddd.....????
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What if Bush comes out and backs Obama? You going to support him too? What about all the black Democrat's who called Powell an Oreo because he acts like too much of a white person and he was a Republican? All that goes away because now he backs Obama?
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UnusualSuspect6 months ago
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cowboygrandpa6 months ago
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"'Not as right as others would like'
Powell, who was secretary of state under President George W. Bush and held the nation's top military post under President George H.W. Bush, endorsed Democrat Barack Obama for president last year. Nonetheless, since the election he has described himself as a Republican and a right-of-center conservative, though "not as right as others would like."
Cheney, citing Powell's backing of Obama over Republican nominee John McCain, said, "I assumed that that is some indication of his loyalty and his interests."
Cheney's remarks on CBS' "Face the Nation" were the latest step in his slow-motion estrangement from Powell since the two worked closely together to manage the Persian Gulf war in 1991 — Powell as the Army general who was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Cheney as defense secretary for the elder Bush.
Under the younger Bush, Powell initially backed action against Iraq's Saddam Hussein and delivered a famous U.N. speech laying out the U.S. case. But Powell and Cheney increasingly parted ways over the Bush administration's policies on the war and terrorism, with Cheney usually prevailing. Powell left the administration after Bush's first term."
There is no room for anyone except extreme right wing racists in the party now, Cheney has been an idiot coward for years. So of course he would back another racist idiot coward.
Gush Limberger,Cheney,GW Bush all cowards,who let someone else fight the wars so they can turn a profit.
Colin Powell, a man who has fought for his country and espouses patriotism over party politics.
Who is the real Republican ? Powell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who are the real losers everyone who allows the Gush bags to set policy.
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ettucatk6 months ago
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Colin Powell is no more a patriot or a Republican than Arlen Spector is a Democrat or a Republican. Colin Powell went with whatever was most expedient for his personal benefit, just as Spector did. I believe those who voted for Obama found the bottom. They swished around in the muck of Chicago politicians, and found Obama. Even those of you on the Left have to smirk when Powell professes to be politically right of center, and supports Obama.
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Desdamona6 months ago
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If the republican party keeps pushing modertes out it will secure the future of the democrates in office. The party continues to narrow its base when it should be looking for ways to expand it. I wonder if they will become as marginal as the green party?
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quicksilver06026 months ago
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cowboygrandpa6 months ago
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So I guess he is indicting the very policies he and Georgie boy ran on. Because they have caused the failure the party is seeing.
And I would say that based on the bull crap they are still trying to sling they will not win another for a while. LOL
Kep it up "Chain Brains Cheney" we need your great shows of utter stupidity to continue. Lest the American people forget what they once put in the Whitehouse. -
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Goppy6 months ago
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When you have an Ideology that is founded upon Moral Vacancy ... to the degree that you defend Torture .... ENDORSE Torture ... you get a collection of people led by Dick Cheney and Rush Limbaugh that DEMAND fealty ... Über Alles.
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Goppy6 months ago
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bruhaha6 months ago
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Goppy6 months ago
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Excellent point.
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Dick Cheney: "I can't serve my nation on accounta I got this heart condition ... it's weak ... like my morals."
Rush Limbaugh: "I can't serve my nation on accounta I got this cyst on my anus ... where my conscience resides."
You can tell a lot about a political philosophy by the people who the followers look to for guidance.
Modern Republicans look to ... by turns ...
Rush Limbaugh ... draft dodger
Dick Cheney ... draft dodger
George W. Bush ... draft dodger
Fox's Rupert Murdoch ... foreigner
Sun Myung Moon (Moonie) ... foreigner, cult founder, loony
Conrad Black ... indicted criminal
FOX's Oliver North ... indicted criminal
FOX's G. Gordon Liddy ... indicted criminal
FOX's Glenn Beck ... alcoholic
FOX's Dick Morris ... prostitute frequenter
Ted Haggerd ... Christian Conservative hypocrite
The 'Conscience of the Conservative' ... is not what it used to be.
It's now ... The 'UN-Consciousness of the Conservative'.
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Commodore16 months ago
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GWHayduke6 months ago
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Ohhh Commie.
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Arent you concerned that your party is being hijacked by a radical, self serving 'entertainer'?
Surely you arent foolish enough to believe that El Rushbo's wildly perverted views of 'conservatism' are sincere beyond making him a few more dollars.
And Cheney.......if you dont believe that he's riding the government's militarily subsidized bankroll train, you're seriously delusional.
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skyking2p6 months ago
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here is the guy your hero cheney wants as the leader of the republican party:
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Beau78906 months ago
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You are astoundingly out of touch, Commodore.
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On one hand, you have Colin Powell, a highly decorated 35-year veteran of three wars, four-star general, and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
On the other hand, you have Dick Cheney--a loony old chickenhawk who created as close to a dictatorship we ever had in this country--and Rush Limbaugh, who avoided the military by claiming to have some sort of painful anal cyst.
And you claim Powell is the one with the "big yellow stripe" on his back.
It's obvious that service to one's country doesn't gain your respect.
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Wolfie20076 months ago
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CRYMTYPHON6 months ago
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What a strange remark.
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Does it mean he is a follower, not a leader?
Isn't that an unlikely thing for a general to be?
If he hunts with anybody,
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mesodude6 months ago
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No. Cons are just big 'ol wh*res who will only listen to their fellow wh*res because they know they can count on one another for mutual appreciation. As soon as one con wh*re disagrees with another, the dissenting wh*re who dares to disagree with the majority is banished to the wilderness. He may still be a *wh*re* but only the cons' immense, hideous loud-mouthed, greasy, uneducated, drug-addicted lead pimp has the final say so. Cross that big blim...er, pimp and your career (political or otherwise) is as good as dead. ;-(
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Radiofreeeuropa5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Some of what appears to me to be the GOP's problem is demonstrated by comments from propeller's obtuse. The very idea that someone is a traitor, or disloyal because they disagree with their party is self defeating. I've known Specter ever since his bid for Phila. D.A. and the guy has simply voted his conscience and voted with his constituents in mind. He was a democrat then he was a republican now he's a democrat again, his voting pattern will not change regardless of which party bribes...er I mean finances him. I don't care for all his votes or positions but the man IS independent and he votes for his constituents wishes. (Imagine PA. coal miners going for corporate tax holidays...no they'd have his head for breakfast.)
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Mindless party robots are worthless to voters, say what you will, neither of these guys are mindless party shills and I respect that in a man or woman in a representative position.
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simonsez6 months ago
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BB646 months ago
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I think the VP brought up a very valid point when said he didn't think Colostomy Powell was still a member of of the GOP. Powell who claimed to be a Reagan Republican that turned into a left winger, I mean "moderate" didn't back McCain. A left wing moderate. No, he backed the left wing communist or socialist. So why the change in Powell's stand? Was it because of something Obama did? Who knows, his resume is about as think as tissue paper. Was it because of his promises? Hope and Change are bumper stickers, hardly a campaign with any substance. Was it Obama's support of the troops, not at all. He wants to create a second military under the "civilian" control, just like the SS or KGB. So why would Powell support Obama. Race is the only one not mentioned. It's skirted by everyone. But I think his support was based on skin color. It's a good thing race isn't important.....
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Goppy6 months ago
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Nice spin, simonsez.
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Hey ... have you checked out my United States Population map?
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2008/...
It's like YOUR map in that it's a map of the 2008 election ... but it sizes the various states as to population ... as opposed to yours.
MY map shows that PEOPLE voted for Barack Obama for President.
YOUR map shows where cows, sheep, grasslands, forests, and mountains voted for McCain.
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I hope you get a chance to check it out.
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Goppy6 months ago
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I love it when Military Contractors serve my point ... it's much more effective than my doing so in a vacuum.
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So ... for that ... I thank BB64. This member has come through for me ... AGAIN!
Here we have an employee of the Military Industrial Complex ... someone who DEPENDS on an ever increasing dole from Big Government ... supporting two blowhard who claim to disdain "Big Government".
It gets better ... the Party who CLAIMS to disdain "Big Government" ... actually INCREASED the size of the Government Bureaucracy by as much as 30% during the past 8 years.
I'm not sure that the issue is the Modern Republican Party moving FURTHER to the Right ... I think the problem here is the Modern Republican Party moving into a Plane Incomprehensible Cross Purposes.
... • Their 'Moral Center' has been so besmirched by ideological perverts ... they have people like BB64 ... (a flag waving pro-spending militarist) ... denigrating an actual solider who rose through the ranks to become aGENERAL ... and PRAISING a couple of Draft Dodgers!
NOW do y'all see what I've been trying to explain?
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Goppy6 months ago
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WOW ... this tread has a very ominous 'creep factor' to it.
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It's kinda creepy how quickly Right Wing Ideologues will 'throw heros under the bus' ... the MOMENT they don't chime in with the most extreme of their party.
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It's as if the Modern Republican Party is so afraid right now ... they DEMAND 100% AGREEMENT ... anything less ... they feel an overwhelming sense of threat.
In this way ... they remind me of how Neaderthal must have felt, as Sapiens crowded them out ... with their ability to work together as a team.
Of course, for my fellow Christian Conservatives, this all happened over the course of the past 6,000 years.
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antibrainwasher6 months ago
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Its about loyality, unquestioning loyality mixed with white supremacy and evangelical zeal. Add a dash of moral vacancy, anti-science, delusional thinking, swiftboating and a generous portion of ignorance. Bring to boil, then simmer for 8 years.
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It is amazing to me that military folks don't think of themselves as on the government dole. I guess General Jesus pays BB4 with profits from his oil biddness. -
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cowboygrandpa6 months ago
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The Republican Party reminds of the character who was such a whining wimp on the T.V. Show Lost in Space.
Dr. Smith I believe the characters name was. A scheming ne'er do well who was always willing to allow someone else to suffer for his gain. -
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tadair9196 months ago
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i still don't understand how so many democrats were duped into believing colin powell is a "patriot," for merely endorsing obama (after it was clear he was going to win, anyway.) i mean, is that all it takes to seperate him from the rest of the neocons? somebody explain to me how powell is any less guilty than rumsfeld and the rest of the gang for selling the war? this whole dialogue is painful to read. what is wrong with our attention spans? we are getting played like a fiddle.
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powell doesn't earn any brownie points with me for not endorsing mccain. and not getting cheney's endorsment certainly doesn't mean much either.-
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donald516 months ago
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He also came forward to say the worst day in his life was when he said those lies at the UN - he learned they were definitely lies afterward!
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Goppy6 months ago
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There's always a risk at being duped by politicians.
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Now, I'm not of the frame of mind that believes that all politicians are lying scum.
I personally believe there are FIVE types of politicians.
1) The Lying Scum ... yes, there IS a small percentage - just as there are in ANY business and/or church.
2) The Religion Driven ... as I describe in my Profile, this is a modern invention. A person of narrow interpretation of the Bible that feels a calling to FORCE all others to adhere to THEIR interpretation of the world.
3) The "America as Corporation' type... often drawn to politics from the Corporate sector after having been introduced to the 'quid pro quo' - exchanges common between Corporations and Government. This type also believes that America should be a Military, Warrior Corporation.
4) The "I Hate Government" type. They get pi$$ed off at everything government does. They have this idea that government is ALWAYS inefficient ... and that BIG BUSINESS is ALWAYS the answer.
5) The 'Don Quixote' type. They've seen a great deal of social injustice, inequity, and disregard for every day Americans, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters ... and they enter politics to to make a positive difference in people's lives.
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. ❝I consider this ranking to be a hierarchy. Those with the LEAST ethics rank a lower number and those with the HIGHEST ethics rank a higher number. This Ethical formula is calculated by a complex algorithm that I cannot divulge here.❞ .
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I allot my trust based on the cumulative value of the category where I place them.
Having followed Colin Powell's career for quite some time, I have always considered him to be from category 5. Selfless military service, Bravery in Action, Esteemed by his Peers, Leadership, Command, Effectiveness.
I then consider those who supplied Colin Powell with the 'Talking Points' with which to give his speech at the UN.
A few from category 3. A couple from category 2. And, sad to say ... maybe one or two from category 1.
So, I've calculated a preference of belief for Colin Powell.
Have I been duped?
Maybe, but my calculations say otherwise.
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Radiofreeeuropa5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Powell's military service was largely very distinguished, I have no criticism, but a few questions about Mei Lai ...other than that he expressed interest in ideas that seemed quite contrary to Cheney and that crowd especially in foreign policy ...(I can't imagine why he went to work for them). No I don't blame him for the policies of the Bush white house, he did the honorable thing, he left, he didn't criticize them at all when he left until their reign was de facto over anyway.
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He's right of center, more militaristic than I like, but far less so than the chickenhawks that dominated the Bush adm. And intellectually as well as in social skills, he outclasses Cheney by a mile, Rush by a light year. Another case where I think, at least speaking for myself, I have a reasonable degree of respect for the man not particularly his politics. Though his politics are more palatable than the majority of the GOP's spokesmen. Trying to think of a contemporary Republican I admired...Chuck Hagel, I liked him very much actually. Tom Kean had some appeal but that's going back a bit...his son sadly is nowhere near as likable, his best political capital is his name. I have no respect for Limbaugh or Cheney, for different reasons, history has proven Cheney's ideas especially about the military and privatization of aspects of it were terrible. Rush has never made me laugh, or engaged me as an entertainer, and his political views are simply deplorable in most cases.
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ettucatk6 months ago
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Something goofy about this rating system. If a post has a negative rating, and you rate it positive, it increases the negative. If a post has a positive, and you rate it with a negative, it correctly reduces the positive number. What's up?
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Icantwait6 months ago
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My Fellow Americans: Why shouldn't Cheney back Limbaugh after all Powell is the traitor. A White Sheep in Black Clothing. He supported the Damocrats while he was supposed to be a Republican. Powell was showing his true Colors. Pretty obvious to see who was stabbing Bush and Cheney in the back while he was pretending to be on their side. On the Side of the American People. What a low life. How can he live with himself. I hope his family is proud of him. Cheney deserves a medal for telling the truth, which is unusual for a Polititian. The Damocrats should take a lesson from a real Patriot like Cheney and maybe some of the dignity would come back into the political arena. Powell guys like him are your heros and guys like Cheney you put down. You should thank God, if you believe in him, that there are still honest, respectable, and Patriotic individuals around like Cheney. Thank You God! The Real American
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CRYMTYPHON6 months ago
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My Fellower Americans:
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damnation is upon all who disagree with me, which is what they deserve
for betraying america by disagreeing with me, like that black man in white clothing
pretending to be a white sheep in black clothing Colin Powell, who disagreed
with me and so is a traitor, unlike Cheney who is a patriot and not a sheep,
except a 'good' sheep but I forgot which color anyway he agrees with me.
And you should thank God that there are still people who know how to 'be'
sheep people and not the people-people who are running this country! Thank you!
The Realer American
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Icantwait5 months, 4 weeks ago
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My Fellow Americans: Goppy the lay about is at it again. He has nothing better to do than make up a bunch of phony innuendos. Well, that's par for the course since he is not even from this Country. He is living in the lap of luxury, one of the rich Obama is trying to destroy, but well out of the bounds where Obama can get to him. I don't think he, (Obama), will go after him anyway because Goppy, I beleive, is a Kenyan. My good friend Chimp-on-the-Phone finally agrees with me about Powell. Of Course he got a little confused but all in all he is now on my side. Finally, he understands what it is like to be one of us a Republican. Thank You Chimp. The Real American
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sinophil495 months, 4 weeks ago
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One thing I am puzzled why the Republicans have not learned. On the Democratic side, we had our turncoat in Joe Lieberman who endorsed John McCain over Obama. Lieberman even made a speech at the Republican convention.
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Many Democrats, including myself were furious at Lieberman for his betrayal. Yet Obama counselled the party stalwarts to calm down and NOT expel Lieberman from the party and from his committee posts.
The end result - Lieberman is now back in the Democratic fold and a small but necessary part of the 60 vote majority to prevent Republican filibusters. The cooler heads, led by Obama, prevailed and it proved to be the right decision.
The Republicans should have learned from that incident. But they expelled Arlen Specter and now Colin Powell.
They insist on ideological purity with absolutely no leeway for any deviation or free thinking. They eat their young. They shoot themselves in the foot. They proclaim ideological victories and calmly accept political defeat. They drift further and further into the netherworld of radical neoconservatism. They risk condemning themselves into political irrelevancy for the next generation (or 2).
Why?
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