Can Muslims Take Jews And Christians As Friends? »
Posted By Mutainia 6 months, 2 weeks ago in Political News
Muslims say they can be friends of Jews and Christians. But, is this true, or, is it al-taqqiya in action?
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Mutainia6 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Al Taqqiya" is capitalized? What? Is "Al" short for "Allan or Albert Taqqiya"? ;0
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Hey, Muhammadanboy. what's this "pre-op transexual girlfriend" you are talking about? Since you can't defend what this possible former Muhammadan exposes about Islam, you have to try to get people to think I'm gay, or, something? How come?
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icono16 months, 2 weeks ago
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al taqiyah;
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from google
http://plateauofiran.wordpress.com/2007/07/12/isla...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya
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No mention of pre-op transexual girlfriends........although an interesting 'mixing of the metaphor'. -
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Dionys6 months, 2 weeks ago
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" Muslims say they can be friends of Jews and Christians. But, is this true, or, is it al-taqqiya in action?"
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Of course they can be friends of Jews and Christians. Just as Christians can be friends with Jews and Muslims and Jews with Christians and Muslims.
al-taqqiya, by the way, is intentionally misinterpreted by Mutainia to spread lies about Islam, including the lie of "al-taqqiya" which is Mutainia's "cool" way of saying someone's lying. All while never offering any proof. All while intentionally lying about.. well.. lying.-
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Mutainia6 months, 2 weeks ago
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Di: Of course they can be friends of Jews and Christians.
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Mut: Denying what your Qur'an says, O "I'm not a Muslim, yet, desperately defend Islam"?
Di: Just as Christians can be friends with Jews and Muslims and Jews with Christians and Muslims.
Mut: Yes, you ARE denying what the Qur'an says AFTER all, I see. How come?
Di: al-taqqiya, by the way, is intentionally misinterpreted by Mutainia to spread lies about Islam,
Mut: Really? THIS I've got to see the non-Muhammadan desperate to defend Islam, to explain.
Di: including the lie of "al-taqqiya" which is Mutainia's "cool" way of saying someone's lying.
Mut: Didn't see the video, huh? Of course, in the video, this Arab doesn't use the word "Al Taqqiya", he just points out how the Quran allows people like you to lie with Allah's blessing, that's all.
Di: All while never offering any proof.
Mut: There is proof a plenty in this video. It's YOU who accuse me of lying without evidence, like you are doing again right now.
Di: All while intentionally lying about.. well.. lying.
Mut: Proof? Again, NO proof, just accusation, like a GOOD taqqiya-ing Muhammadan that you certainly are, yet, use taqqiya to lie and say you aren't. IF you WEREN'T a Muhammadan, you would have provided a reason now as to why you AREN'T a Muhammadan. You want one? You could say, "Because Mr. (pbuh) was a pedophile pirate who married a six year old and said eating seven ajwa dates in the morning will protect you all day from both magic and poison". Bonus. "Also, said that the 'sun sinks in a murkey spring, prostrates under the throne of Allah, before asking permission to RISE again." HUGE bonus, "Because Quran 18:74-81 opens the door to 'honor' killing when someone is allowed to kill an INNOCENT just by FEARING that that innocent would later do wrong." REALLY huge bonus: "Because Quran 4:24 removes the gripe of African Americans by not only allowing for slavery, but, allows the slave master to have sex with a slave girl who is married." YOU say that, and, I'll believe you ARE, as you claim, "not a Muslim". -
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Natureboy6 months, 2 weeks ago
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No, I keep telling you, Muitania is LYING AROUND with Al Taqqiya. And he is infatuated as a schoolgirl writing her crush's name over and over, dotting the "i"s with little hearts.
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It's Al Taqqiya this, and Al Taqqiya that. Any subject he responds to, he will insinuate mention of Al Taqqiya. Really, he probably touches himself as he keys Al's name.
I just wish he would come all the way out with it and post a picture of his heart's desire here on propeller.
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alamintalib6 months, 2 weeks ago
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The dangers of a little bit of knowledge are so apparent here, Like one comment earlier, we can even marry Christian and Jewish. They have ALL the same rights as Muslim wives. To believe what he suggests means that I am to hate my entire Christian family. Such foolishness! Look at these Bible verses below from Deuteronomy 13
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6If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
These say a heck of a lot. Should I just examine Christianity from these few verses? or look at everything in its context?-
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Thinker226 months, 2 weeks ago
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>Should I just examine Christianity from these few verses? or look at everything in its context?
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Probably not. It would be way more productive to look at the FACTS in countries being run by the Islamic laws. As examples, you may consider Saudi Arabia an Afghanistan under the Taliban and the rights Jews, Christians and women had there.
The trick is NOT to concentrate on the literal meaning of some text that was written 2000, 1000 or even 100 years ago but on TODAY's interpretation of this text by its followers. -
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Mutainia6 months, 2 weeks ago
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According to the Quran, the Quran is a "confirmation and a reminder of that which went before it" (The Bible), so, I take it you posted that to show the Quran is right about it being a "confirmation and reminder of that which went before it" (the Bible)?
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reallypsst6 months, 2 weeks ago
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Are we speaking about people in general or countries,and there is a variable to this discussion,it depends on what part of the world you live in,the truth is when religion comes into play all hell breaks loose,as for me i treat people as they treat me,this concept is older then religion!
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alamintalib6 months, 2 weeks ago
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This verse concerning taking as "friends" refers to tribalism. Tribalism is discouraged in Islam as it many times makes people to set aside moral or religious responsibility in place of tribal or national custom, duty, justice and responsibility. No different than a Christian patriot justifying burning a mosque in America. It is tribalism and nationalism you see in much of the violent acts committed by Muslims today.
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Quran 5:69 says: "Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness--their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow."
5:82. " . . . and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: 'We are Christians.' That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud."-
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Mutainia6 months, 2 weeks ago
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Ala: This verse concerning taking as "friends" refers to tribalism.
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Mut: Where does it say that in Quran 3:28?
Ala: Tribalism is discouraged in Islam as it many times makes people to set aside moral or religious responsibility in place of tribal or national custom, duty, justice and responsibility.
Mut: Again, where does it say that in Qurna 3:28?
Ala: No different than a Christian patriot justifying burning a mosque in America.
Mut: ?
Ala: It is tribalism and nationalism you see in much of the violent acts committed by Muslims today.
Mut: So, tribalism and nationalism is stronger than the Islamic faith?
Ala: Quran 5:69 says: "Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness--their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow."
Mut: And, the scripture RIGHT before that one, tells a Christian he "has no ground to stand upon, unless he stands firm upon the Injil". Yet, if you read a few scriptures down, you see Christians threatened for believing in a Trinity, which the Injil can make one believe in IF he does as the Quran tells him to, which, is "no ground to stand upon unless he stands firm upon the Injil".
5:82. " . . . and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: 'We are Christians.' That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud."
Mut: That sounds nice, yet, it's contradicted by Quran 9:29 that tells Muhammadans to fight those even IF they are "persons of the book" (Christian).
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alamintalib6 months, 2 weeks ago
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More Quran to balance this article
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[4:90] Exempt those who join a people with whom you have concluded a peace treaty, and those who come to you with hearts unwilling to fight you, nor to fight their relatives. Had God willed, he could have placed them in power over you and they would have made war on you. Therefore, if they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then God gives you no way to go against them.
Quran 4:94:
. . . Do not say to one who offers you peace, "You are not a believer," seeking the spoils of this life. For God has abundant treasure. You used to be like them, after all, and then God blessed you.-
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Thinker226 months, 2 weeks ago
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As I've said above the trick is NOT to consider the literal meaning of text written 2000, 1000 or even 100 years ago but to look at the interpretation of this text by its followers TODAY. The fact is that the vast majority of terrorists TODAY all over the world are Muslims and most of them claim that their actions are dictated by their religion.
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Mutainia6 months, 2 weeks ago
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And, THAT sounds nice also, yet, it's contradicted by Quran 9:1-5, that tells Muhammadans they are free from treaty obligations after forbidden months and to SLAY unbelievers accept those who are "without knowledge" and are willing to hear the Quran where they are then given "safe passage". ABSENT from Quran 9:6 is what if they ARE with knowledge, and, instead of wanting to hear the Quran, want to hear the Injil (Gospel) which is all about Jesus going to the cross, where as, the Quran says Jesus DIDN'T go to the cross.
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