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Mutainia6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Hey, O "I'm not a Muslim, yet, desperately defend Islam". Did you post the above to attack the Bible, or, support the Quran when the Quran says it's a "confirmation and a reminder of that which went before it" (i.e. the Bible)? Exodus is the second book of the Torah, and, according to the Quran, the Torah is not only LIKE the Quran, BUT, like the Quran, it is "both guidance and light". So, was the above posted above to attack the Bible, or, show that the Quran is right about it being a "confirmation and a reminder of that which went before it it" (in otherwords, the Bible)?
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alamintalib6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Again, you miss the point. He was saying neither. Your question has nothing to do with this article or his post. He does not support either point. He merely, as an outsider to both our beliefs, is calling you out for pointing at one or two specific verses and not looking at them as a whole or reading them out of context.
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Just as you will not open your eyes to the Old and New Testament verses presented, you will neither opens your eyes and head to the fact that you are making yourself look hypocritical by trying to bash Muslims and the Quran while your own book of faith posses similar if not exact statements.
This makes you look foolish and you keep digging deeper holes for yourself which further shows your state of ignorance.
You are allowed to explain yourself concerning these verses and as many do (especially with the OT), distance yourself from it but as soon as a Muslim makes a single step to explain or defend himself, you move the microphone, change the subject or just act plain mean.
Mean is looking quit dumb right now on you. You would look better explaining these verses from the NT and OT instead of listening to phantom tapes of exorcism.-

Mutainia6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Ala: Just as you will not open your eyes to the Old and New Testament verses presented, you will neither opens your eyes and head to the fact that you are making yourself look hypocritical by trying to bash Muslims and the Quran while your own book of faith posses similar if not exact statements.
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Mut: The difference though, is that the passages Muhammadans post to make it look like the Quran is right about it being a confirmation and a reminder of that which went before it (Torah and Gospel), are believed by MANY Christians (including myself), to be for a different time period. That's why we don't stone slothful kids and do all these things atheists LOVE to point out from the Bible. The QURAN, on the other hand, gives a strong impression that once Shariah Law comes about, ALL these things, (like slavery and sex with married women who are "what your right hand possess"), will be put into place again. Being so the case, it seems to remove the gripe of your ancestors in the BIGGEST way. How can it not?
Ala: This makes you look foolish and you keep digging deeper holes for yourself which further shows your state of ignorance.
Mut: Provide your evidence where I was being ignorant, please, or, is this al taqqiya on your part?
Ala: You are allowed to explain yourself concerning these verses and as many do (especially with the OT),
Mut: And I have. I said that I feel that they are for a different time period.
Ala: distance yourself from it but as soon as a Muslim makes a single step to explain or defend himself, you move the microphone, change the subject or just act plain mean.
Mut: Really? Sounds like you are projecting. That happens ALL the time from Dionys.
Ala: Mean is looking quit dumb right now on you.
Mut: ?
Ala: You would look better explaining these verses from the NT and OT instead of listening to phantom tapes of exorcism.
Mut: And, when I explain them, NO Muslim seems to want to believe they are for a certain period of time and dispensation, leading me to believe they want to believe they are proof that when the Quran says it's a "confirmation and reminder of that which went before it" (the Bible), it's not lying.-

alamintalib6 months, 4 weeks ago
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On your last statement, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black or the sink calling the toilet white?
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You fail to see and realize your hypocrisy. You are a broken record.
Also, if you want me to answer any of your statements again, please stop with the cut and past. They are not coherent. Maybe you mean well, but people don't want to read twice the info, especially if the just read it.
Take the time, explain the verses and give me the same chance to critique and reject EVERY answer you make.
You are a hypocrite and its sad that you don't alter you approach so that you arguments are more palatable,coherent and consistent.
People like cowbowgranpa make this world an easier place but you on the other hand are very pessimistic, dull and damaging.
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Mutainia6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Ala: Also, if you want me to answer any of your statements again, please stop with the cut and past.
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Mut: I doubt you would, so, I shall continue with this, letting those who are interested read it.
Ala: They are not coherent.
Mut: Really?
Aa: Maybe you mean well, but people don't want to read twice the info, especially if the just read it.
Mut: Those who like me will read it, those who don't will only read what you wrote and skip mine, as usual.
Ala: Take the time, explain the verses and give me the same chance to critique and reject EVERY answer you make.
Mut: When have you ever done that? Evidence, please.
Ala: You are a hypocrite and its sad that you don't alter you approach so that you arguments are more palatable,coherent and consistent.
Mut: Evidence, please.
ala: People like cowbowgranpa make this world an easier place but you on the other hand are very pessimistic, dull and damaging.
Mut: Saying so doesn't make it so. Evidence, please.
Ala: I will pray for you.
Mut: Thank you.
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Dionys6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Oh. Is he saying his usual stuff about how Christians don't believe all that old OT stuff?
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"“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so."
"All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)"
"Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)"
""All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)"
Or is the OT no longer 'scripture'?
""Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)"
"“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17)."
Pathetic. Someone who can't even follow his own religion's LAW seeks to make judgements on a low-context literal interpretation of someone else's religion in translation without any cultural or historical understanding.-

Mutainia6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Hey O "I'm not a Muslim, yet, desperately defend Islam". Did I say Christians don't believe the OT? No, I said that the majority of them, like myself, believe they were to be followed for a different time period, a different dispensation. That's why we don't stone like Muhammadans.
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