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mesodude7 months, 1 week ago
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Fox News' Hunt: GOP successfully framing torture debate around Pelosi instead of Bush administration ;-P
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http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200905180023-
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mesodude7 months, 1 week ago
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"spin away about Bush and Cheneydo y ou know that 61 percent of people approved of the enhanced interrogation techniques..."
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--Oh... I didn't think polls (or deficits) mattered to cons...But even if 100% of Americans supported torture, that doesn't change the fact that FOX is helping Cheney and the GOP divert attention from their criminal activities. You're trying to make this about Nancy Pelosi when we all know it was Bush and Cheney who authorized torture. Their legacies will forever be tarnished by their lies and criminality. Poor Cheney. ;-P-
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tanglang7 months, 1 week ago
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The problem Meso is that Bush/Cheney are no longer in office and that if you really cared about stopping torture you would immediately want the ones who are still in office booted out. Then you would worry about the previous administration.
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mesodude7 months, 1 week ago
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"The problem Meso is that Bush/Cheney are no longer in office and that if you really cared about stopping torture you would immediately want the ones who are still in office booted out. Then you would worry about the previous administration."
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--No, the problem is that cons only want accountability when it serves your interests. Why else would you be for going after Pelosi now while simultaneously arguing that Bush and Cheney are out of office so...bygones?
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BBcamaro7 months, 1 week ago
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Meso,
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Understand Pelosi was briefed that has already been proven and knew all the time what was going on (No getting around that). She is just as guilty as anyone else. However she is also not the only senior democrat that knew this, have you not seen how they are leaving her out there hanging by herself including Obama? If it does go any farther there will be several more democrats in the same boat as her, however I believe the rest of the dems will sacrifice her to save them selfs.-
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mesodude7 months, 1 week ago
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"Understand Pelosi was briefed that has already been proven and knew all the time what was going on (No getting around that)."
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--Why would I bother to sidestep an amateurish, ridiculously vague, incoherent statement like that?
"She is just as guilty as anyone else. "
--You're still being vague. What was she briefed about and what proof do you have of the exact wording of the briefing? And why are you pretending not ot know the CIA has some 'splaining to do about discrepancies in their recollection of events? Anyway, how can she be "guilty"? I thought the fact that we torture was something cons were proud of. And who is "anyone else"?
"However she is also not the only senior democrat that knew this, have you not seen how they are leaving her out there hanging by herself including Obama?"
--Again, knew what exactly? Please demonstrate that you have a brain and that you're capable of at least intelligent enough to educate yourself regarding opposing arguments. You're acting like a lawyer but no competent attorney would go into court without some idea of her opponent's arguments.
Also, Nancy Pelosi is third in line for the Presidency. And you cons are hilarious. You're yakking about how Obama and the Democrats leaving her hanging out to dry. What makes you think she needs to be defended by Obama (who voted against the war and wasn't even in the Senate until 2004) or Democrats? LOL...do you people really not realize we're onto you? Haven't you figured out that we know you want America to see men rushing to Nancy's defense (so you can immediately manufacture a smear out of that)? Don't you think we know you want to embroil Obama in this so you can try to capitalize on some innocent comment he might make (which you will then try to distort into something crazy? We see through you cons, BB. How many times must I tell you this? ;-P-
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BBcamaro7 months, 1 week ago
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Wow you sure can play stupid when you need to can't you? Is that your best "oh what are you talking about" and "being so vague" are you kidding me? For those on the left that are a little slow, She is doing the far left agenda to get everyone of the Bush administration investigated for torture like you don't know that. She and several other democrats however where briefed on all the procedures being used in the interrogations and said nothing about it, so for you and the rest of the left who feel Bush and company are guilty, then so is Pelosi and the rest of the democrats that knew and allowed it to happen.
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Meso "Also, Nancy Pelosi is third in line for the Presidency. And you cons are hilarious. You're yakking about how Obama and the Democrats leaving her hanging out to dry."
O.K. just how many democrats are standing behind her and supporting her? Is that crickets I'm hearing? In fact several have basically told her to put the proof or shut up.
Meso "Haven't you figured out that we know you want America to see men rushing to Nancy's defense"
What??? Just out of shear morbid curiosity where did you ever get the idea I or anyone else said the men needed to rush to her aid?
Meso "Don't you think we know you want to embroil Obama in this so you can try to capitalize on some innocent comment he might make (which you will then try to distort into something crazy?"
No this is about the hypocrite Pelosi and her lies and deceit while trying to criminalize the right, Obama only controls what information gets put out from the CIA. He needs to get her out so he can run the country instead of her. Reed might want to watch out as well.
So the left is on to what ever the right is doing.... but they have absolutely no idea what their left leadership is really doing!! Yea thats about par for the left.
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donald517 months, 1 week ago
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PC, we've already seen enough of your un-american bigotry to know you will resort to any means as you have no values, respect no laws and have no conscience.
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You repugs are just trying to get Pelosi like you went after Tom Dashle for standing up to Dumya, the war criminal!
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Goppy7 months, 1 week ago
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I think the Right might succeed in ousting Nancy Pelosi.
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If they do, it will validate what I've been saying ... that Mainstream Media is completely dominated by The Right.
This morning's news had Newt Gingrich on GMA ... AGAIN* ... reaming out Nancy for saying that the CIA lies to Congress.
Of course, the irony here is this ... the CIA DOES lie to Congress.
So, watching Newt and my fellow Modern Republicans puff themselves up now and claim "The CIA protects us from harm ... they would NEVER lie to us!"
There are plenty of instances in which the CIA was manipulated by those in power for the purpose of furthering some political goal or Ideological vision.
(*Since Newt announced his exploratory committee to campaign for President in 2012, Mainstream Media has been standing him up in front of the cameras every week ... appearing numerous times on NBC, ÅBC, and CBS. It's pretty clear that Mainstream Media is behind this guy.)
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Hhussk7 months, 1 week ago
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I think the Right might succeed in ousting Nancy Pelosi.
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At this point in time, I think Nancy Pelosi is safe. The only real threat to the Speaker was the response from CIA Director Leon Panetta, which was clearly authorized by the Cheif of Staff in the White House.
A brilliant move on the part of the administration, our President was using the opportunity to send a shot across the bow of the Speaker and The House; get in line and pass my legislation.
It has not been reported very well, but Pelosi and Reid haven't been extremely agreeable with the administration. The Speaker, now, is deep in this mess; she is looking for cover. Unfortunately, she's been a little pushy to her Democratic associates and they are letting her feet burn a bit.
I would be surprised, at this point, if she goes down. However, if she continues to do press conferences or there are more CIA leaks, it will be her undoing.
I do not think this means the Media is left, right, or center. Simply put, they are being fed a story. Look at who is feeding them. CIA leaks are hammering at Nancy. She herself held a press conference that went extremely bad. Dick Cheney, who will ALWAYS get airtime (because people love to hate him) has been pushing the issue. And finally, members of Congress have been refuting her perception of events.
If you look at the people refuting her, you will see Dick Cheney...but then you will also see mostly Democrats. All I am saying is that Obama is putting her in her place.-
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mesodude7 months, 1 week ago
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"A brilliant move on the part of the administration, our President was using the opportunity to send a shot across the bow of the Speaker and The House; get in line and pass my legislation."
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--I love it. He's "our President" when he's doing something to protect Bush and Cheney or otherwise serving your interests. ;-P
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