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pc257 months, 1 week ago
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A clever move in how it kills two birds with stone, avoiding further headaches for Obama over how to dispose of terrorists in U.S. custody while leaving jihadis in the possession of people willing and able to go the Mancow route for emergency information if need be. But, er, how is this significantly different from rendition? The only difference that I can see is that instead of grabbing these people ourselves and handing them over to Jordanian or Pakistani intel for interrogation, we’re leading their guys to the suspects and letting them take it from there.-
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kobzikov7 months, 1 week ago
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"But, er, how is this significantly different from rendition?"
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I know it might be difficult to figure out how "apprehension and extrajudicial transfer of a person from one state to another" is different from apprehension and NO transfer of a person within a state BY the state, but if you guys put your collective minds to it, then I believe you can do it.
Also I don't think I'll be taking any lectures about hypocrisy from those who can go on for hours about how waterboarding is not torture, when they don't give a flying fig when US actually facilitates torture.
When you guys will figure out that not only is torture wrong, but is a crime according to both US and international law then I will listen to what you have to say on the matter and your criticisms of how ACLU, Human Rights Watch, and other activists aren't making enough of a peep when combating the repugnant practices. -
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GLee7 months, 1 week ago
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Exactly what I expected. On this standpoint I am rather proud of the President. America must be kept safe at all costs. Too bad his liberal friends had to find out he is cheating them but as far as I'm concerned, he is showing some sort of 'backbone' in this regard. Now if we can get him to stop spending soooo much dang money and wanting to socialize a free America??
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CRYMTYPHON7 months, 1 week ago
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The conservative determination that if something is cheating,
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dishonest or at least cruel, - it must be efficient,
- is called Nixon Syndrome.
Named for the politico who cheated on an election he could not
have lost. He cheated, - on principle .
It defines why we waterboard confessions instead of interrogate for info;
It defines why PC25 and company blitz us with lies which make them look insane;
It explains why decorated veteran Republicans John McCain and Colin Powell, are not considered conservatives .
Nixon Syndrom is a deteriorating illness.
Eventualy one lies when the truth would serve better;
-cheats when honesty would win;
-tortures when it will ruin the chance to get intelligence;
-invades when war is not needed.
Obama isn't trying to socialize america.
That was a lie you made up.
If you have come to believe it,
it does not make you stronger in your opposition;
it makes you weaker.
Obama isn't secretly getting around the rules of torture;
that is another lie you have made up.
That you approve of the act you make up for him,
does not make your opposition stronger;
it makes you seem insane.
Nixon syndrome.
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