Catholic League Head Plays Down Pedophilia and Child Abuse Report »
Posted By Spadecaller 5 months, 4 weeks ago in Religion
Catholic League President, William Donohue, responds callously by downplaying and trivializing a horrific account of decades of pedophilia and child abuse committed by Irish Catholic priests and nuns as reflected in a 2,600 page report prepared by an investigatory government commission set up by the Irish Government.
In contrast to Donohue, Father Thomas Doyle admits, “There is something radically wrong with the institutional Catholic Church. This is painfully obvious because it allows systemic abuse and radical dishonesty to coexist with its self-proclaimed identity as the Kingdom of God on earth...”
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Spadecaller5 months, 4 weeks ago
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For over six decades thousands of Irish children were sexually, physically, and emotionally abused by nuns, priests and others in a system of church-run residential schools meant to care for poor, vulnerable, and unwanted children.
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How in heavens name could anyone care so little for the spirit, flesh, and blood of living children and so much for the Catholic hierarchy?
Donohue’s shameless reaction is disconcerting - to say the least. Donohue and the Church hierarchy obviously care more about the business of the Church than the message of God (love).
I wonder why they would prefer to deny the pain and suffering sexual abuse causes in the lives of human beings. There must be some reason why they would willfully dismiss the impact of this report.
The emotional damage created by abuse of this nature most often is irreparable and leaves the victims with deep scars that each will take to their graves. What could possibly cause anyone to trivialize this?-
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hyperbola5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Well Spade, our corporate media regularly trivialize all kinds of crimes against humanity for reasons of power and wealth. Here is an issue that they never touch.
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Stand Up to Israeli Apartheid: Open Letter to Barack Obama from a Nobel Peace Prize Laureate
I found your book ‘Dreams from my Father’ a moving and inspiring story of your own struggle to find your identity and purpose in life. You found it for sure, and today carry the hopes and dreams of so many people in our world. We pray for you and your family. We wish you all good health and happiness. You carry so much responsibility. We hope you will change the policies of USA (both domestic and Foreign) to people centred policies, based on the values and ethics which you try to live out in your life.
... To visit Palestine is to walk with a people whose lives are being made unbearable by Israeli Policies of ethnic cleansing. Each year when I visit I ask myself ‘how can the Palestinians bear so much suffering and still have hope?’ The Philosopher Karl Jung says ‘Go into your grief for there your soul will grow’. Being privileged to walk alongside the Palestinian people, one sees so much soul. Many are materially poor having been made refugees and often pauperised by Israeli occupation and siege, but their dignity, courage, and persistent resistance to injustice is awesome to witness. It reminds me of the magnificence of the human spirit and, I feel humbled to be welcomed as a friend of the people of Bilin, Ramallah, Gaza, and Palestine. I wish that you President Obama would go and walk with them as you walked in spirit with the people of South Africa in their great and inspirational anti-apartheid movement.
Walking every week in the peaceful protest to the Apartheid wall, are Israeli activists and Internationals. It takes great courage to come from Israel to the occupied terrorities and oppose your own Government’s Policies and I pay tribute to the Israeli peace activists who continue to do so, often at the cost of punishment by the Israeli Government. Yet, they come, and here is the hope that not all Israelis support their Government’s racist and apartheid policies of siege, occupation and militarization of both Israel and Palestinian villages and towns. I also pay tribute to the Internationals who put their lives daily on the line to stand in solidarity with the Palestinians. Last month in the Village of Nilin, one young man from your own country of America, Tristan Anderson, was targeted by Israeli soldiers, and hit in the head with a gas canister. He is currently in intensive care, and we all hope he will recover.
...I appeal to you President Obama, to change USA Policies and stop supporting through military aid, etc, Israelis occupation of Palestine, and to move immediately to help lift the siege of Gaza and say to Israel ‘enough is enough’.
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mcgrievysr5 months, 4 weeks ago
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As a former strong Catholic, I must say that I'm deeply disappointed in William Donohue's response and with the response of the "higher-ups" in the Catholic Church. I understand that any church is run by human beings and human beings have proclivities and failings. There are many types of abuses in any large organization. That said, no one can condone all that has gone on with child abuse in the Catholic Church even though Donohue wants to trivialize those actions. What I've found unacceptable, among many other things, is the Catholic Church's "pooh-poohing" of these offenses. The Catholic Church (and William Donohue) have by and large responded in a cold-hearted and inhumane manner. I can no longer support such a church.
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Progressive5 months, 4 weeks ago
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FTA:
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The institutional Church is defensively changing its approach to the systematic abuse all too slowly and only because it is forced to do so by external forces it cannot control. The Irish government commission is one and the U.S. legal system is another.-
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vor5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Laughable to say this has only occurred for decades. This would go back centuries. Likely to the beginning of the Church itself. For all of this time faithful adherents bowed to the wishes of church leaders. For centuries nothing was said. You were raped by God, not the priest, and it was because you were sinful in your ways. That is still the basic unspoken view of the Church.
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It is the plague of celibacy that causes this. If you are going to tell a man to live without sex you better make him a eunuch. If not he will find a warm place for his willy to find release. And since they are taught that women are the source of all temptation the bum of a confused male adherent will then suffice. Very strange how there are so many more male victims than female. And how they clearly search for the weak on which to prey. For all this time this has been justified by the hierarchy. And there is little reason to believe this is not still occuring.
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Spadecaller5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Many of these children are orphans. I don't really think it is fair to blame the parents in this situation. Many of these children were sent to these schools because of losing their parents for a variety of reasons. Do we blame the parents when a girl gets raped? I think not. Why not address the rapist? How many of these abusers are being brought before the courts? How many of them hide behind the robes of the Catholic church?
"...and why aren't priest background checked for this?" According to this report the abuse has been quite rampant and the church cares more about protecting its image and preserving its power than it does in caring about the children abused or even preventing other cases. It would require some serious monitoring to kick out all of the offenders who are still using the Church as their enablers and cover. -
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hamy5 months, 4 weeks ago
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I don't blame parents for trusting their priests. I blame the church for pushing the blame onto the children. It is actually a pattern for pedophiles to make the children feel ashamed and to keep them from speaking about it. It is disgusting. How can anyone be a part of a church that would protect such actions?
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Spadecaller5 months, 4 weeks ago
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A few weeks ago I posted another story about his guy, Bill Donohue. You would be amazed at some of the Propeller members who rose in support of this pervert.
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Hard up for news worthy material, mainstream media continues presenting Bill Donohue as some kind of Catholic role model. Although it's true that the Vatican does coddle anti-Semites and pedophiles, after reading anything Donohue has ever said, it becomes perfectly clear that he’s not playing with a full set of Rosary Beads. Two weeks ago Friday, Donohue appeared on Fox News to discuss President Obama's speech at Notre Dame.
Considering Bill Donohue’s anemic TV ratings and his questionable popularity even among Catholics, it’s not clear why the TV networks and AP continue to cover him. One must wonder who and what is behind it.-
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hyperbola5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Think it is really any different than the cover-ups of zionist crimes against humanity? Why do our media not report those? Indeed, why do our mainstream media support zionist crimes against humanity with their silence?
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Criminalizing Criticism of Israel - The End of Free Speech
On October 16, 2004, President George W. Bush signed the Israel Lobby’s bill, the Global Anti-Semitism Review Act. This legislation requires the US Department of State to monitor anti-semitism world wide.
To monitor anti-semitism, it has to be defined. What is the definition? Basically, as defined by the Israel Lobby and Abe Foxman, it boils down to any criticism of Israel or Jews.
Rahm Israel Emanuel hasn’t been mopping floors at the White House.
As soon as he gets the Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009 passed, it will become a crime for any American to tell the truth about Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and theft of their lands.
It will be a crime to report the extraordinary influence of the Israel Lobby on the White House and Congress, such as the AIPAC-written resolutions praising Israel for its war crimes against the Palestinians in Gaza that were endorsed by 100 per cent of the US Senate and 99 per cent of the House of Representatives, while the rest of the world condemned Israel for its barbarity.
It will become a crime to note the disproportionate representation of Jews in the media, finance, and foreign policy.
In other words, it means the end of free speech, free inquiry, and the First Amendment to the Constitution. Any facts or truths that cast aspersion upon Israel will simply be banned.
Given the hubris of the US government, which leads Washington to apply US law to every country and organization, what will happen to the International Red Cross, the United Nations Commission on Human Rights, and the various human rights organizations that have demanded investigations of Israel’s military assault on Gaza’s civilian population? Will they all be arrested for the hate crime of “excessive” criticism of Israel?
...Many Americans have been brainwashed by the propaganda that Palestinians are terrorists who threaten innocent Israel. These Americans will see the censorship as merely part of the necessary war on terror. They will accept the demonization of fellow citizens who report unpalatable facts about Israel and agree that such people should be punished for aiding and abetting terrorists....
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mcgrievysr5 months, 4 weeks ago
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spadecaller----The people for whom I feel sorry are the parish priests and pastors who are working hard to keep parishes afloat. There are many wonderful priests who are what church leaders should be. Not all of them agree with the Vatican and with Bill Donohue. I've talked with some of them, and they're very discouraged by the defections that are taking place among parishioners. Another issue that bothers me immensely is that Catholic Churches in America are closing their doors (some because of because of financial need), and the Vatican, which has tremendous wealth, still expects tithes from America. Corruption and scandal have wracked the Catholic Church (and we talked about the Crusades yesterday which is still another issue). :-)
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Poulenc5 months, 4 weeks ago
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People forget that one of the main jobs of any religious...organization is to keep that organization in business.
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Less business, less power.
So challenges to that organization are threats that are often dealt with clandestinely, especially in matters in which sex rears its decidedly worldly head.
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antibrainwasher5 months, 4 weeks ago
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What kind of idiot would trust their child with a priest? What kind of monsterous religion would think chasitity and abstinance is a requirement for high office?
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Jesus was a homosexual liberal jew, advocate for the poor and sick, railing against authority and totalitarian government. He was tortured to death by the preincarnation of the catholic religion, and the preincarnation of Dick Cheney.
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Spadecaller5 months, 4 weeks ago
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I believe institutionalized celibacy serves as an invitation for sexual deviants to find a place to hide out. The Catholic church has proven this to be the case. That does not mean that all Catholics are sexual deviants and child abusers. I added that last comment for our resident lib-haters who like to accuse anyone who dares to expose these kinds of practices on Propeller.
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Dionys5 months, 4 weeks ago
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"I believe institutionalized celibacy serves as an invitation for sexual deviants to find a place to hide out."
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You can believe it if you want but all independent studies point to the fact that pedophilia and sexual deviancy occur at EXACTLY the same rate within the general population as within the Catholic Priest/Deaconate population.
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reallypsst5 months, 4 weeks ago
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The catholic church has always defended these misfits and provided a haven for them,a vigorous effort from our legislators is needed to combat these criminals on a international level,because the vatican has a suspicious habit of moving these perverts around the globe !
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hamy5 months, 4 weeks ago
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That is the most disgusting part. To try and pin their scandal on homosexuality is not only a lie, but also one of the most disgusting things I think I have ever read.
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They are the pedophiles. They are the ones who are going through a scandal. Not homosexuality. Nice try to deflect your own guilt and shame.
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Progressive5 months, 4 weeks ago
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"The Catholic orders responsible for abusing Ireland's poorest children say they're struggling to come up with money to help their victims. Yet investigations into their net worth paint a very different picture — that of nuns and brothers with billions' worth of carefully sheltered assets worldwide."
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