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Posted By capj71 6 months, 3 weeks ago in Political NewsNot content to root only for the failure of President Obama, on his radio show today, Rush Limbaugh declared America a failure because Obama is succeeding. Rush said, “Ladies and gentleman this country is failing because Obama is succeeding.” Rush claimed that the economy is hopeless, and that we are all doomed.
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Jeboba6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Limbaugh is dangerous. He is walking a very fine line between angry rhetoric and sedition. I hope he crosses it and we lock him up for the rest of his a$$ cyst bleeding life! He is a total lunatic but not as looney as those who listen to and follow him. Scary bunch to be sure.
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UnusualSuspect6 months, 3 weeks ago
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If America is failing, which I don't see as happening yet, it has more to do with Limbaugh himself, and others like him, driving the wedge that divides this country...
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He's the one with the coffin in his studio, and the hammer and nails are right next to his microphone...
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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That depends upon your defining success. You have banks and major manufacturers being seized by the government. Those same manufacturers are being given to the UAW with promises of government assistance until they get on their feet. When was the last time any government agency actually made money and gave you a refund. Never. The bigger question for me is why? Why is President Obama giving GM and Chrysler to the UAW. Their pensions and health benefits really lead to the company's failures. Why? How about the $13,000,000 the UAW gave to the Obama campaign. $13M for GM and Chrysler, not a bad deal for the union.
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You have pay for play leading directly to the Obama administration and you guys insist on attacking Rush? A radio host who makes his money selling ad time? If you don't like him, stop listening. Rating drop and he's gone.-
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fiftynine6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"So once again, you guys are anti-free market.............."
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The rights take on everything.....Now bb how did you come to the conclusion that will1313 or anyone else is anti free market ?
Man,you all are a paronoid lying bunch...
Go listen to some more rush...you are running out of talking points.
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fiftynine6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"He's the Grim Reaper, disguised as an entertainer and a wannabe leader..."...
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Having served in the military one thing i can assure you of...rushboy is no leader...Had he went to war(which we all know he was to cowardly to do) with his attitude he would have never returned...Leader,nah...not even close.
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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Rush has never committed acts of sedition. On the other hand several members of the DNC have. Nancy's visit to Syria certainly should have cause the AG to call for an investigation. But what Rush does is not sedition. It's not even a good try.
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On your times of war claim. If we used FDR's standard, there would be far fewer dems in office and on campuses. If you want to really get serious, once again, the your side violated this far more so than a radio talk show host. I don't listen often however, I do know Rush would never call for armed insurrection or call for the military to rebel. Oh, again that would be your team. Folks like Acorn and members of congress.
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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you're getting a little of that spittle on you.. wipe your shirt.
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sedition can fall far short of ARMED insurrection.. but if you're trying to say he's not influential in any way..
he is directly responsible for Obama being president...
you forget the REPUCLICANS that went with Nancy to Syria... and for your info .. not a Dem. although I did vote for Obama.. ... and you're typical of the reason I became disillusioned with Republicans...
by the way.. i keep asking this question over and over... and you being perfect should be able to answer..
WHAT WAS CONSERVATIVE ABOUT THE BUSH / CHENEY ADMINISTRATION AND THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATIVE BRANCH FROM 2001 - 2006.. PLEASE LIST WHY ANY CONSERVATIVE WOULD DEFEND OR WHY ANYONE SHOULD TRUST THEM AGAIN...-
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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I will type very, very slowly so you might be able to keep up. I am not nor have I been a great fan of President Bush. I do know Cheney and respected him. As for either being true conservatives, they're not. Over the last 8 years, the elections reminded me of a cell phone commercial. Our service really sucks but not as bad at the other guys. The same holds true for the last several presidential elections. I wasn't a fan of Bush but when you look who ran against him, there wasn't a choice. Al Gore was a liar who couldn't keep his lies straight. John Kerry was another liar. I'm former Navy. There is no way on earth, the claims made by John could be true, when it came to war crimes he claimed to witness in Vietnam. His own ship's log prove he's either a liar or an incompetent navigator who shouldn't be a skipper. We could clear this up if he opened his records. Bush opened his. McCain opened his. Dole opened his. Even Jimmy Carter opened his. Kerry refused.
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The members of the GOP that visited Syria didn't go claiming to represent the United States as our designated representative. That would be the Secretary of State or an ambassador appointed by the President. She had neither the authority nor writ. She violated several Federal laws. Congress should have taken care of this but didn't.
As to conservatives, we'll see when the tax rates go up in 2010 and other fees become law. We'll see how long the taxpayers support this form of government. I see Wisconsin going from Blue to Red within the next 18 months. If we can change, New York, Illinois and even California may change teams.-
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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There is no way on earth, the claims made by John could be true, when it came to war crimes he claimed to witness in Vietnam.
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really i have a friend who went to Vietnam.. he had pictures of ear necklaces.. and a bag of gold teeth.. he also spoke of many of the same atrocities Kerry cited. . he didn't see them in the same light as Kerry.. just part of war..-
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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you're also WRONG about the military records. John McCain released just a few redacted pages.. Kerry released his entire record..
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To date, McCain's advisers have released snippets from his file, but under constrained viewing circumstances. There's no reason McCain's full file shouldn't be released immediately. In May 2005, six months after he lost his bid for president, Senator John Kerry signed the 180 waiver, authorizing the release of his complete military service record to the Boston Globe, the Los Angeles Times, and the Associated Press. ** Unlike Kerry, McCain shouldn't wait until after the election to do so. The Navy may claim that it already released McCain's record to the Associated Press on May 7, 2008 in response to the AP's Freedom of Information Act request. But the McCain file the Navy released contained 19 pages -- a two-page overview and 17 pages detailing Awards and Decorations. Each of these 17 pages is stamped with a number. These numbers range from 0069 to 0636. When arranged in ascending order, they precisely track the chronology of McCain's career. It seems reasonable to ask the Navy whether there are at least 636 pages in McCain's file, of which 617 weren't released to the Associated Press.
Some of the unreleased pages in McCain's Navy file may not reflect well upon his qualifications for the presidency. From day one in the Navy, McCain screwed-up again and again, only to be forgiven because his father and grandfather were four-star admirals. McCain's sense of entitlement to privileged treatment bears an eerie resemblance to George W. Bush's.
Despite graduating in the bottom 1 percent of his Annapolis class, McCain was offered the most sought-after Navy assignment -- to become an aircraft carrier pilot-
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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and McCain sought to seal all records of POW/MIA's .. perhaps something in their could proved embarrassing..they may have also helped solve some of the POW/MIA mysteries.. people maybe left in captivity .. . which he so violently claims did not exist.. WHY
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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I will type very, very slowly so you might be able to keep up.
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you really are a condensing piece of sh*t.. ..
and like i said you and your ilk are precisely the reason i won't vote republican again for a long time...
you've lived off the government all your life... basically my tax dollars. have supported you.and most probably paid for a large portion of your education.. . you had a silver spoon daddy being an embassy guard and all.. must have pulled strings.. to get you into the seals in the first place. .. must have been so disappointing when you washed out.. and most who do are simply let go.. yet you stayed and retired.. get the government medical care and double dip a pension...
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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Not at all. You clearly know no Republicans. Free speech in our party is alive and well. The difference, we have far fewer left wing members and that confuses you. Our principles are rather simple. Strong family. Strong military. Self reliance. Smaller government. Lower taxes. Less handouts. You will find the average member of the GOP are far larger contributors to charities. You will find a far greater number of us volunteering in churches, soup kitchens and homeless shelters. You will find we attend far fewer rallies because we have real jobs outside of the party. We're not members of unions or DNC shills.
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You will find many races. You will find most of us have a faith of some sort. Be it Christian, Jewish, Muslim, or Buddhist. Those are just a few of the religions I've seen at the Wisconsin GOP convention. Many of us are members of the NRA but some don't own a firearm. We believe in 2nd Amendment.
You won't find folks demanding rights that are here illegally. You won't find many of us supporting the legalization of control substances. You won't find us pushing gay marriage. Talking gay rights. You will find most of us don't care what you do at home in private. We don't care because we don't look at that as a right or privileged class. You won't find many welfare warriors here. We feel if you breed them you pay for them.
Finally, you will find we're confused at the continued quoting of Lincoln by Obama. First, Lincoln was a Republican. Lincoln preserved the Union and really was a founder of the civil rights movement. Yet the left fails to remember that. They also forget that the majority of the Klan for generations were exclusive members of the DNC.-
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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Far to the right? Lincoln's party? You realize we were formed here in Wisconsin by the abolitionist movement right? Most of those folks were Quakers. They make the conservatives of today look like flaming liberals. You clearly are a product of today's public schools. I suppose you feel the only cause for the Civil War was slavery. The war was fought for many reasons. Slavery was a very small part of it.
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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Strong family.
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same divorce rate as any other demographic
Strong military.
at an expense that surpasses almost all countries in the world COMBINED
Self reliance.
I got mine.. you get yours.. and keep moving the target.
Smaller government.
Bush and the republicans presided over the largest expansion of government in HISTORY.. Clinton reduced the number of NON MILITARY government employees in almost every year of his presidency..
Lower taxes.
Fine.. if your not spending like a drunken sailor with a stolen credit card.
Less handouts.
AIG.. enough said..
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djn3nunez36 months, 3 weeks ago
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Actually we've had a long hisory of Sedation Acts. Here is the first one.
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Congress in 1798 passed four laws in an effort to strengthen the Federal government. Known collectively as the Alien and Sedition Acts, the legislation sponsored by the Federalists was also intended to quell any political opposition from the Republicans, led by Thomas Jefferson.
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestone...
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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we don't have a law against sedition..
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it would appear you are uninformed or lying... as ususal. my inbred neo-con apologist..
Sedition is the crime of revolting or inciting revolt against government. However, because of the broad protection of free speech under the First Amendment, prosecutions for sedition are rare. Nevertheless, sedition remains a crime in the United States under 18 U.S.C.A. § 2384 (2000), a federal statute that punishes seditious conspiracy, and 18 U.S.C.A. § 2385 (2000), which outlaws advocating the overthrow of the federal government by force. Generally, a person may be punished for sedition only when he or she makes statements that create a Clear and Present Danger to rights that the government may lawfully protect (schenck v. united states, 249 U.S. 47, 39 S. Ct. 247, 63 L. Ed. 470 [1919]).
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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well said..
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but let's keep him relevant.. remember he may have stopped Hillary in her presidential bid.. but he couldn't stop Obama..
all the talkers and he still won...
if you put Hannity Rush Beck all on different stations at the same time frame.. their radio audience for each in individual markets could ride around listening in together in a volkswagen..
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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If you feel he's wrong, instead of using the typical liberal attack lines, prove him wrong. Show where spending trillions on pork projects which only benefit liberal causes is good for the country. Again, i said country not Democrat party. Show how destroying the coal industry and laying off thousands of miners is good for America. Explain how you're going to sell cars built by government motors when the majority of Americans are switching to Ford or foreign because they trust neither the government nor the UAW as owners. Explain why anyone would invest in US based firms when President Obama simply seizes businesses when he feels like it instead of letting market forces deal with the problem.
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Again, I went a little long, but show your theory and how you came to your conclusion. Show me where the Obama socialist plans will work. Prove him wrong and stop the name calling.-
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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i said nothing of his being fat..or his drug usage... he's just not factual... and i do listen and fairly often.. then watch what he spews.. repeated here on propeller word for word..gives me a real good perspective of where the poster is coming from.. and that he/she isn't too bright..
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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Hold on. We're talking about the claims I've outlined here and in Rush's comments. He's attacking the logic of the porkulus. Explain how he's wrong in this situation. Explain how spending trillions on solutions to problems that really don't exist. Explain how seizing large firms and giving them to the unions is a good thing for the investors. Better yet, explain how that stimulates people to invest in American businesses. Explain how funding Acorn with stimulus money doesn't violate the Constitution.
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I don't care about other times he might be wrong explain how Rush is wrong on this issue. Lay out your case.-
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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it remains to be seen who's right on this does it not..
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but most times the argument from YOUR side.. is when you're wrong ONCE. .. you can NEVER BE RIGHT.. once a liar always a liar..
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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I've asked you to explain how this budget and spending package will succeed. It's clear you have no clue, you're merely quoting DNC talking points sent our earlier today. Or are you actually a member of the DNC congress and you can't figure out your own budget. You voted on it but you don't comprehend why you supported it or how it's supposed to work.
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GWHayduke6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Your nonsensical claim of "spending trillions on pork projects which only benefit liberal cause" completely refutes the remainder of your premise of disproving Rush.
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A parrot squawking rhetoric.
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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I work in the power world. You've bashed me for my support of coal. Wind machines have a larger carbon foot print, cost 24 to 30 time coal plants to maintain and are a very poor power supplier, they produce power on an average of about 20% of the time. So yes, when I see the huge spending package investing in something that is so much more costly and so much more unreliable, I complain. We're still taking your money to build the wind machine in partnership with GE Zenith. My theory was if you're too stupid to realize you're ripping yourselves off, I'm smart enough to take your money. Again, I'm not call you, stupid, I'm talking to the general population who thinks wind is a great option. It is for the suppliers. For the customers, they're getting screwed.
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Dinosaur, not likely. I'm for nuclear power. It's safe, reliable and has no carbon foot print once built.-
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GWHayduke6 months, 3 weeks ago
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You're not the only one working in the power world.
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Cost of Wind Power vs Burning Coal in viable regions.
Variations in wind velocity sometimes cause wind turbines to operate below rated capacity. At good sites in Kansas the average capacity factor of new wind farms is 40% or more. That is, on average, a wind farm will produce 40% of the power that could be generated if the wind turbines operated at 100% of rated capacity all the time. The comparable figure for coal fired power plans is about 80%.
However, cost comparisons take these figures into account, and wind power at the very best sites is still reasonably competitive with the cost of a new coal plant. If the federal Production Tax Credit (PTC) for wind farms is taken into account, wind power is significantly cheaper than burning coal assuming that transmission costs are reasonable. The PTC was reauthorized through 2007 and is likely to be renewed again.
Critics say that if wind power were really competitive it wouldn't need to be subsidized by the PTC. Actually if the true costs of burning coal were being taking into account, including damage to the public health and environment from tropospheric ozone, fine particles and global warming, then the PTC would not be necessary. Furthermore the mining and transport of coal requires vast amounts of diesel fuel and thus benefits from the myriad of subsidies underlying the use of petroleum.
Utilities may claim that wind power is more expensive than their current average electricity production costs. But that is comparing apples and oranges. Kansas utilities' "fleets" of generating assets consists of base load coal-fired plants (and one nuclear plant) built prior to the early 1980's. After that they built a number of natural gas fired generating units that are designed to meet heavy demand such as during hot summer days. Thus their coal plants were built long ago with fewer pollution controls at a much lower cost. For example Westar has said its average cost is only 1.5 to 2 cents per kwh.-
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GWHayduke6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Moreover,
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In the meantime the cost of natural gas has become extremely volitile, so the utilities' newer plants are now very expensive to run. Further, the cost of buying and shipping Wyoming coal has increased substantially in just the past two years. A big advantage of wind power is that there is no fuel cost. Thus once a wind farm is built, the cost of operating it is pretty much set for the life of the facility.
Intuitively it makes a lot more sense to generate wind power in western Kansas and send it eastward on transmission lines as opposed to consuming huge amounts of diesel fuel so locomotives can haul tens of millions of tons of coal, every year, 500 to 800 miles to points in Kansas. Then the coal cars have to be hauled empty back to Wyoming!
The real issue is how does the cost of power from a new wind farm compare to power from a new coal plant taking into account reliability issues that will be discussed below? Secondly, how much of the high cost of natural gas from existing generating units can be avoided when power is being generated by wind farms? A recent study indicated that wind farms in western Kansas would have performed quite well in 2003 when the weather was very hot in Kansas City (capacity factor 60% + on average). That means wind farms could pay for themselves by displacing the use of expensive natural gas
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fiftynine6 months, 3 weeks ago
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" Wind machines have a larger carbon foot print, cost 24 to 30 time coal plants to maintain and are a very poor power supplier, they produce power on an average of about 20% of the time."....
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Bring up some stats on that bb...You are saying that wind turbines produce more carbon that a coal fired plant ??? And that the wind only blows twenty percent of the time...?lolol Figures please..
I live very close to a nuclear plant..Palo...And that thing is off line almost as much as it is on...When they built it they talked endlessly about how our community would see cheap energy basically forever....lol...Electric cost are skyrocketing and most of the power produced three miles from my home is sold on the grid and we benefit from none of it..Safe yes it is...right now...but when things go wrong they go disasterously wrong...What happens when some thing goes wrong with tradition power plant or wind turbines...? Do thousands die ? Is Thousands of acres of land contaminated ? No.
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fiftynine6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"I've asked you to explain how this budget and spending package will succeed......."....Now show us that you are smart as you like to pretend.
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When Obama started this what did he say? Remember? Do you remember what the experts said ?
Obama and the experts said,and they were being honest...imagine that,that they did not know if it would work..remember? They also said that because we have never been in this situation before that they didn't know if these actions would suceed or not,but what most seemed to believe was that doing nothing (and lying to the Amewrican public about how good our economy was...remember) would be worse than doing something...
You gave the previous idiot and his crew eight years to prove their incompetence(and you said nothing) and yet you go on as though these last three months are Obamas fault....lol
Your bunch is so riddled with hypocrites ,liars,and anti American garbage like rush that it is real hard to see where anything you say can even be considered...It was the rights brightest minds that got us into this hole,they had no answers and no solutions the entire eight years they had control and this is the best they could do...Pathetic
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fiftynine6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Insults and slogans"....I think you might be as stupid as rush...The facts have been put up so many times in the last few weeks of his racist comments,his anti veteran comments,his anti women and anti gay comments,his anti American comments....Nd you have been here and have read every one of them i bet...But still,just like the support of bushes failed policys you blindly follow this mouthy POS because you can't face what him and you have become...
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You know he is anti - American "i have a pimple on my azz",i cant't serve azzwipe that spouts how everyone else is wrong but what has he ever done to help this country?....Nothing..the only thing he has ever helped is his own fat drug addicted azz.
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quackpot6 months, 3 weeks ago
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A poll of 45 leading economists was released two days ago. All of them expected the economy to rebound by early 2010 (3/4 though it would rebound by 3rd quarter 2009).
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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Actually no. From the numbers I'm seeing, it's smaller than the one we faced in 1992 and 1982. But again, the media can't sell ad space if it isn't the worst "whatever" in history. The moves congress did are reminiscent of the Great Depression. By creating all of the jobs programs, it removed the incentives for people to take ownership of their own destiny. People stopped investing in the USA. Those with money, held on to it. Those without took handout after handout. Some needed the help because the private sector stopped hiring and building. If the seizures of banking industry and business continue, the American investor will leave the American markets. We're seeing that already. How many 401K's have moved funds to the Asian or other world markets. How many people have cashed out and purchased gold. Not that I recommend it but fear causes people to do strange things.
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Again, this isn't something new. Recessions happen. How Congress and the White House react determine how bad or long it will last. So far, their actions have caused more fear. They've also sugar coated things. I'm seeing the downturn continue if a course change doesn't happen. We're already at 10% unemployment, we could see as high as 15-20 if Obama continues on this path.-
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Progressive6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"The economy’s dismal performance over the last two quarters underscored the toll the recession, which started in December 2007 and is now the longest since World War II, has had on the country."
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djn3nunez36 months, 3 weeks ago
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Show where spending trillions on pork projects which only benefit liberal causes is good for the country.
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Show where he is spending trillions in pork.
How many coal worker have been laid off?
President Obama has not seized any business.
Nothing but hyperbole BB. You're just going to have to wait an see when the economy turns around and we leave this resession behind.
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EDWARDIII6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Of course the article makes its summation by saying Limbaugh is cheering for America's failute. It thereby brands itself as just more RushBash propaganda, or possibly one of those less-than-sane sources who don't understand what he meant. Really he makes a pretty good argument. Obama is leading us into a path of socialism and surrender to external forces. I wonder if Obama even wants us to succeed. No American patriot could have spent 20 years listening to Rev. Wright, and not leave the congregation until it became a plolitical liability. Obama shares his list of favourite authors in his biography. It's not hard to extrapolate his agenda. America's failure is Amerika's success.
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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I agree with your whole comment. The problem I have with this, it's an editorial, it's not an article. We have one commentator being commented on by another. It's like having Letterman talk about Leno. Or in this case a local radio guy attacking Rush. This whole discussion is a waste of time. What will count is the 2010 election. It will be interesting to see what happens when Dodd, Reid and the rest are voted out of office. Will we have the strength to right the ship or are we on a course for disaster? I think we're in trouble.
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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I'm an engineer. I understand power gen and factory automation the best. I also know what it takes to keep a manufacturing group working through challenging times.
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Again, what am I saying that is wrong. We're taxing your grand children to pay for your mistakes of today. That is not right. We cannot continue this course and maintain the country we have today. I've tried to explain this using the idea of credit cards but it doesn't come close to the problems President Obama and Congress have created. We're talking trillions of dollars with a rather high interest rate. The tax increases we will see will not actually cover the cost of the debt we're taking on. So we will see substantial tax increases over the next few years. We're talking about huge numbers. I'm not sure how long we can continue his social programs before we're broke.
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Hallucinations6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Maybe Rush should go to another country. If America is a failure he don't deserve to live in this country. Calling your own country a failure? That's pretty harsh. I must admit yes there are things that I don't like or agree with but I would never call my country a failure. I don't know folks but that is what I think about that.
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djn3nunez36 months, 3 weeks ago
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No I said "I can understand why a black women in America may not alway be so proud of this country considering our racist past."
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Do you need further clarification on our racist past?
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fiftynine6 months, 3 weeks ago
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" considering our racist past."...Why ,how could that be a reason for that comment...I mean some of these right wingers preach that there were no dinosaurs so it would only stand to reason that they can say we never had a racist past that it is just a liberal plot....and the earth is only two thousand years old...Remember the intellect you are arguing against.
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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That's a great idea. If he moved to Mexico he would be able to broadcast but not pay the US taxes on his profits. With thinking like that, maybe you could get Microsoft and Google to move out too.
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As to calling your country a failure, I didn't hear you complaining about Murtha when he claimed our troops were losing because they couldn't handle the pressure. I didn't here you complain when Reid was running around saying the war was lost right when we were winning. Funny, how if a person doesn't agree with you, it's attack, attack, attack. Your first move is almost always to forget the first amendment. Free speech only counts when it protects your beliefs not the other persons. Funny, I've read the Constitution but I've never found the DNC protection only clause.
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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I don't think Rush needs to say a word. The left fears anyone who fails to parrot their causes. Again, that's the only speech they protect. With the attacks from the left on Rush's speech, where is the ACLU? Then again, look at Palin. Capable woman yet NOW refused to support her and scurried to the Obama camp. Race, color, creed, etc. only count when it meets the needs of the DNC.
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buckncindykill6 months, 3 weeks ago
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First, America succeeds when free markets and capitalism are allowed to run unshackled by gov't intervention. Some oversight is necessary, but by and large the less gov't, the better.
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In order for limbaugh's statement to be true, "America fails when Obama succeeds", one must already believe that: capitalism, free markets, limited gov't, personal freedom, strong national defense, and consitutional protections are a right to US citizens.
The argument can be made, and that is the one Limbaugh is making; that Obama does not believe in those things. Obama is a committed leftist/progressive.
His ideology and beliefs do not promote e.g., limited gov't. Hence, Limbaugh's assertion that when Obama "succeeds" in expanding gov't, increasing national debt and suffocating capitalism by expansive taxation leads to a "failure" of the American capitalist system.-
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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buckncindykill6 months, 3 weeks ago
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buckncindykill6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Aaah, but crucial to the passing of the GLBA was an amendment made to it; stating that no merger may go ahead if any of the financial holding institutions, or affiliates thereof, received a "less than satisfactory rating at its most recent CRA exam", essentially meaning that any merger may only go ahead with the strict approval of the regulatory bodies responsible for the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA).
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This was an issue of hot contention, and the Clinton Administration stressed that it "would veto any legislation that would scale back minority-lending requirements."
And, we all know what minority lending practices accomplished right?
A massive catastrophe ensued to say the least-
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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really then you have NO GRASP of CRA and it's impact the Federal Reserve said CRA was not significant...
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CRA does not target individuals.. it targets AREAS. to believe that CRA caused the housing debacle..is to believe that most foreclosures are in slums...
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buckncindykill6 months, 3 weeks ago
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It was definitely a contributing factor. There were other causes to be sure. But to deny it had nothing to do with the overall problem is ignoring it's significance.
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The federal reserve (and other gov't agencies) sought to downplay CRA's significance for good reason.
And like the good myrmidons that they are, liberals bought it.-
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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number 1 cause...
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PHIL GRAMM.. Mr. Deregulation.. ..
here's a little CRA house for you.... in foreclosure
http://bcpa.net/RecInfo.asp?URL_Folio=514214023000
you can buy it now for less than half of the last sale price... let me know.. I'll refer you..-
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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doesn't even make the list..
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http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article...
your tell me that one congressman one congressman that is a member of the minority party during the beginnings of the crisis.. . brought down the white house and the halls of congress.. that alone makes almost everything you've said irrelevant.. cause if you believe that .. your spouting party lines and incapable of rational thought..
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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buckncindykill6 months, 3 weeks ago
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I don't recall expansive taxation occurring during those years.
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As for expanding gov't: the liberals in Congress did nothing to object.
Why?
Because they love expanding gov't and felt compelled to follow national sentiment in fighting the war on terrorism. On that premise you're right. Bush is more liberal on spending. However, I don't believe he took office expecting to have to respond to a 9/11 style attack.-
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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buckncindykill6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"........that's what floated the Bush economy.."
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Yes, but he cut taxes in the belief that cutting taxes increases treasury revenue. (See JFK)
Obama on the other hand, sees SPEND SPEND...BORROW..BORROW PRINT BORROW not as a flotation device, but rather as the economy's salvation.-
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buckncindykill6 months, 3 weeks ago
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You're right! Cutting taxes to increase treasury revenue works every time it's tried. But to spend more then the treasury takes in will always result in deficits. Some deficit is tolerable; but deficits we're facing now are obviously intolerable. That is why I believe Obama will increase taxes on EVERYONE. He'll have too.
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"if tax cuts are so good lets do away with taxes all together.."
That won't happen, but we could do something better then the IRS and it's progressive taxation policy............we could do away with income taxes and all it's embedded brethren, and go to a consumption tax; like the fair tax.-
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buckncindykill6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Outstanding!
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This is how Americans can come together. Not on all things, but even a little wiggle room goes a long way.
Are you a committed liberal?
I consider myself a conservative, but I have many liberal friends.
They tend to party a little better! :)-
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Will13136 months, 3 weeks ago
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voting record
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Nixon.. first vote.. 2nd term..
Ford..
Reagan 2 times..
George HW Bush 2 times..
Harry Browne.. Liberarian..
Ron Paul Libertarian
Harry Browne Libertarian..
Michael Badnarik 2004 Libertarian...
Barack Obama
liberal indeed... just sick of what the republicans deemed as conservative..
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skyking2p6 months, 3 weeks ago
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buckncindykill:
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"First, America succeeds when free markets and capitalism are allowed to run unshackled by gov't intervention. Some oversight is necessary, but by and large the less gov't, the better"
Now let me see wasn't this the con mantra for the last 8 years?? How did that work out? Man you need to lay of the coolaid for awhile-
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BB646 months, 3 weeks ago
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Actually no. The mortgage mess was created by several dems. Why don't you think there was a single hearing as to why the banks failed? Where's the Congressional hearing after hearing. Supeanas being served with the press there taking snaps of the CEO's and bank presidents being lead out in cuffs. Where's the Water Gate type hearings shown on PBS daily for weeks on end? None of that happened. I wonder why? Could it be the money trail lead to Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and other leaders of the DNC?
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djn3nunez36 months, 3 weeks ago
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The argument can be made, and that is the one Limbaugh is making; that Obama does not believe in those things.
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Except no one (but the true dittoheads) really beleive what el-Rushbo has to say about the matter.
"I've always been a strong believer in the power of the free market. It has been and will remain the very engine of America's progress - the source of a prosperity that has gone unmatched in human history," Mr. Obama assured business leaders.
"I believe that jobs are best created not by government, but by businesses and entrepreneurs like you who are willing to take risks on a good idea. And I believe that our role as lawmakers is not to disparage wealth, but to expand its reach; not to stifle the market, but to strengthen its ability to unleash the creativity and innovation that still makes this nation the envy of the world," he said.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/15/ob...
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Dave596 months, 3 weeks ago
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The fact stands that this nation does indeed need more than one political party. To allow any one philosophy to rule completely will lead to excesses. This is pretty much borne out by the past eight years. Much of what should have had over sight had little or none. Some of this was the result of having one party become too controlling. This is a danger we still face but it now moves to the left. While some centering movement is a good thing we should also beware of going too far the other way. That is why we need balancing political powers just as we need balancing powers in the branches of the Government itself.
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The real problem with Limbaugh is that he stirs the pot so to speak. There are those on the left that do the same. None of this gets much done but it does get the ratings up. The problem with Limbaugh and the GOP is that many people are starting to see the GOP as a joke and a regional party due to the far right's absolute refusal to even try more moderate solutions to the problems we face. Add in the fact that many people believe the old hard line policies of the GOP are what caused much of the damage to this country and you get a recipe for a shrinking party.
In the long run I think this is very possibly detrimental to our nation. We do need an opposition party and that's a fact but I seriously doubt that many people will find that a man screaming invective and quasi-racist remarks from behind a microphone to be the leadership of a thoughtful and intelligent opposition party. -
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lloydm656 months, 3 weeks ago
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Maybe Rush is looking at the facts on the ground.Unemployment is not getting any better ,the reason the numbers are changing,is because some workers have stopped looking.I think this sentiment is going to grow.Dennis Kacinich,and some republicans are forming a group to stop Obama's destruction of thousand of auto dealerships.In a speech I saw,and heard he wasen't exactly singing the praises of the One.So lets not be to haisty to put Rush down,until we see how big this ground swell is against Obama's policy
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Dave596 months, 3 weeks ago
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I read about that auto dealer ship thing. Here is what Foxnews.com had to say about the big conspiracy, "A preliminary study by FOXNews.com found that the data do not support the charges. Among the dealerships set to close, 12 percent of a random 50 selected for review donated to Republicans and 8 percent to Democrats. Of the dealerships remaining open, 14 percent of a random 50 selected donated to Republicans and 10 percent to Democrats. In both samples, the average size of donations was similar for both parties."
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I note that one of the dealer ships mentioned for closure was that of Florida Republican Rep. Vern Buchanan. The irony of this is if you look at the final roll call on H.R. 3997 he voted against the auto maker bail out in December 2008.
Again from the Foxnews.com article, "According to the sample, one major factor in determining whether a dealership was closed or not was the size of the dealership, measured by the number of product lines carried (the four lines are Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge and Dodge Truck). The average store that will be closed in the FOXNews.com sample carries 2.5 of those product lines whereas the average store that will stay open carries 3.64."
I would guess Limbaugh's veracity should be checked before shall we say "Rushing" to believe every thing he says.
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frctm56 months, 3 weeks ago
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The reality is that Rush is afraid Obama will succeed as are the Republicans. Their only role in dealing with the financial downturn has been as obstructionists. Their only answer to solving the problem is more tax cuts for the wealthy.
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Now that they are trying to beat up on Sotomayor, they will alienate the one constituency that would be most important to their future, Hispanics, many of whom are social conservatives and could be lured into the Republican party if they didn't have to cater to racists.
Its okay, however, I am enjoying watching them self destruct. Go Rush! Keep talkin smack! Ditto heads, line up behind his fatittude with predictable zeal and robot like obedience. Follow Rush over the cliff.
I don't think we should try to silence Rush, he is doing us a favor. He is the stone that Republicans are clinging to while treading water.
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