Knesset okays initial bill to outlaw denial of 'Jewish state'- Haaretz - Israel News »
Posted By dissent 6 months, 1 week ago in NewsThe Knesset plenum gave initial approval on Wednesday to a bill that would make it a crime to publicly deny Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state, punishable by a sentence of up to a year in prison.
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we live in a culture of war.
let's make it a culture of peace.
"my country is the world. and my religion is to ...
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Endoscopy6 months, 1 week ago
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Sounds good to me. They are dealing with the the terrorist organizations that have as their only acceptable solution to destroy the state of Israel, KILL ALL OF THE JEWS, and install sharia law. Put them in jail if they keep saying those things.
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hyperbola6 months, 1 week ago
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Sure engineer, the equivalent would be the US declaring itself a "christian" country and making third-class citizens out of all others, including jews. If you would object to that, then you should ask yourself whether you aren't showing blatant hypocrisy to support zionist racism in Israel.
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Youmight then ask yourself why you so detest the principles of american democracy and real jews (as opposed to zionists). Here is an israeli IDF veteran with the right idea.
Why Israel Has No "Right To Exist" As A Jewish State
By Oren Ben-Dor
....A Jewish state is a state which exists more for the sake of whoever is considered Jewish according to various ethnic, tribal, religious, criteria, than for the sake of those who do not pass this test. What precisely are the criteria of the test for Jewishness is not important and at any rate the feeble consensus around them is constantly reinvented in Israel. Instigating violence provides them with the impetus for doing that....
...In our world, a world that resisted Apartheid South Africa so impressively, recognition of the right of the Jewish state to exist is a litmus test for moderation and pragmatism. The demand is that Palestinians recognise Israel's entitlement to constitutionally entrench a system of racist basic laws and policies, differential immigration criteria for Jews and non-Jews, differential ownership and settlements rights, differential capital investments, differential investment in education, formal rules and informal conventions that differentiate the potential stakes of political participation, lame-duck academic freedom and debate.
...The Jewish state could only come into being in May 1948 by ethnically cleansing most of the indigenous population--750000 of them. The judaisation of the state could only be effectively implemented by constantly internally displacing the population of many villages within the Israel state.
....Let us look precisely at what the pragmatic challenge consists of: not pragmatism that entrenches inequality but pragmatism that responds to the challenge of equality.-
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hyperbola6 months, 1 week ago
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Sur engineer. The equivalent would be the US declaring itself a "christian" country and making all others, including jews, into third-class citizens. If you object to that, then how can you support a racist regime in Palestine?
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You should ask yourself why you hate the principles of americandemocracy so much (equal rights for all independent of race or religion) and why you advocate killing jews, christians and moslems for a racist, totalitarian idelogy from eastern europe (zionism).
Here is an isreali jew, and IDF veteran, with the right idea.
Why Israel Has No "Right To Exist" As A Jewish State
By Oren Ben-Dor
....A Jewish state is a state which exists more for the sake of whoever is considered Jewish according to various ethnic, tribal, religious, criteria, than for the sake of those who do not pass this test. What precisely are the criteria of the test for Jewishness is not important and at any rate the feeble consensus around them is constantly reinvented in Israel....
In our world, a world that resisted Apartheid South Africa so impressively, recognition of the right of the Jewish state to exist is a litmus test for moderation and pragmatism. The demand is that Palestinians recognise Israel's entitlement to constitutionally entrench a system of racist basic laws and policies, differential immigration criteria for Jews and non-Jews, differential ownership and settlements rights, differential capital investments, differential investment in education, formal rules and informal conventions that differentiate the potential stakes of political participation, lame-duck academic freedom and debate....
...The Jewish state could only come into being in May 1948 by ethnically cleansing most of the indigenous population--750000 of them. The judaisation of the state could only be effectively implemented by constantly internally displacing the population of many villages within the Israel state....
...The Right of Return of Palestinians means that Israel acknowledges and apologises for what it did in 1948. It does mean that Palestinian memory of the 1948 catastrophe, the Nakbah, is publicly revived in the Geography and collective memory of the polity. It does mean that Palestinians descendants would be allowed to come back to their villages. If this is not possible because there is a Jewish settlement there, they should be given the choice to found an alternative settlement nearby. This may mean some painful compulsory state purchase of agricultural lands that should be handed back to those who return. In cases when this is impossible they ought to be allowed the choice to settle in another place in the larger area or if not possible in another area in Palestine. Compensation would be the last resort and would always be offered as a choice. This kind of moral claim of return would encompass all Palestine including Tel Aviv.
At no time, however, it would be on the cards to throw Israeli Jews from their land.An egalitarian and pragmatic realisation of the Right of Return constitutes an egalitarian legal revolution. ...
...The upshot is that only by individuating cases of injustice, by extending claims for injustice to all historic Palestine, by fair address of them without creating another injustice for Jews and finally by ensuring the elimination of all racist laws that stems from the Jewish nature of the state including that nature itself, would justice be, and with it peace, possible...
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bgamall6 months, 1 week ago
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This bill is a bad idea. This isn't the way to run a democracy. It is not a way to gain world empathy for a Jewish state. Unless all citizens are allowed to speak freely the democracy part is a sham. Hopefully more sane heads will prevail.
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