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    MajJohn6 months, 3 weeks ago

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    I guess what makes all the alarmism hard to believe is because each report that comes out is totally unsubstantiated, at least as for as what we're able to read. They give us temperature readings for the turn of the 20th century and never say "how" that figure was arrived at. So without knowing that it leads one to think that the figures are being pulled out of the air. Then you're made to believe that for every action there is a simplistic reaction, that the world will not do anything unexpected. We, mankind, knows the expected result and that nothing else comes into play, not deviations in earth orbit, not sun activity not axis changes, no nothing is happening out there over which we have no control. Everything that is happening, we are led to believe, we can control and further more we are able to correct by paying some sort of a high tax to some international entity. No wonder the IPCC releases the reports that they do. And then, we are being led to believe that we can buy carbon credits and that some how this "fixes things". How?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying that pollution of our planet does not exist and is a good thing. I'm just not willing to buy the 21st century snake oil salesman pitch that he has the solution if only we'd buy his product. The planet has after all been undergoing significant changes for centuries before the industrial revolution and I have to believe a significant part of current change is due to other than man made factors. To believe otherwise if foolish.

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      pokydoke6 months, 3 weeks ago

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      I'm not really sure what you are trying to say but I don't think anyone is trying to sell you anything. Globally we need to reduce green house gasses. The Earth may indeed be naturally warming but the rate that it is warming is far faster than would normally be expected. The attribute given to this rapid rise is excessive amounts of carbon dioxide produced by modern society.

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        Mikunited6 months, 3 weeks ago

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        " They give us temperature readings for the turn of the 20th century and never say "how" that figure was arrived at. So without knowing that it leads one to think that the figures are being pulled out of the air"

        It's rather straightforward,the temperature are taken in several hundred places,several times a day,in the widest "spread"of areas available.These temperatures are then averaged out and compared to other years, usually 1971-2000. There has been a global rise in temperature over the last decade.This doesn't mean that the average temperature is the same at every weather station,or that each year has seen the same increase.In fact over the last two years the temperature has been flat.
        As for paying taxes,there isn't really any multi-lateral taxes in place.In my opinion,as climate change is global,there should be global solutions,including a global tax regimen..It should be aimed at the largest polluters,USA,Europe,China etc.The monies raised should then be used to help the nations most effected,Pacific and Indian ocean islands,Bangladesh etc.
        The amount of evidence concerning global warming is overwhelming. There are a few percent of scientists,3-5% that question global warming.There are some books and studies, that argue human behavior has nothing to do with global warming, but they are very few compared to those whose that argue the opposite.
        I do think that there is a more complex cause to global warming,then just Co2,but it is a major constituent. Human behavior is impossible to ignore in any calculation conserving the warming of our planet!
        As for man having all the answers and control,Id say the opposite,man has totally lost control.

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