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Posted By david_nwpa 5 months, 1 week ago in Political NewsI don't know what the best perspective is on the gay marriage issue. I don't know what to say to people to convince them that the issue of individual rights alone is enough to grant gay couples the right to marry. We live in a time when the idea of individual rights has been relegated to a quaint afterthought during the realignment of American values resulting from the current brawl between capitalism and democracy.
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david_nwpa5 months, 1 week ago
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Putting a sunset clause or restriction on straight marriages is a totally loony idea. No one in the gay community would legitimately make such an argument. Keeping straight people from getting married is completely the opposite of what gays and lesbians want. Although marriage has a place within religion, that is not the focus here. Marriage is a civil institution, and as such should not be denied gays and lesbians. This is a fight about equality.
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rimbaud5 months, 1 week ago
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Government should get out of the Marriage game altogether: let people come up with their own civil (nuptual, pre-nuptial) contracts (same sex, group sex, whatever). Then, marriage can be defined however your religion wants to define it.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or religiuos practices, such as marriage, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.-
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lvrofwolves5 months, 1 week ago
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rimbaud, not sure if I agree with you, government should stay in marriage as far as it being a legal 'contract'. already it is separated from religion, nobody has to have a wedding, or blessings from their religious establishment, the church etc..gives no legal benefits to a married couple, if it was just up to one's own religion, what difference would it make at all? what the couple has or what you call it? there's so many different religions, beliefs, no belief.....and basically each religion already does define what it should be for them, and tries to sometimes tell everyone else too.
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Marriage is between 2 people who love and want to commit themselves to one another, share their life, home etc..with each other, they deserve protections and benefits as a couple, and homosexuals deserve EXACTLY the same thing.
Marriage is first and foremost a contract between a couple, if they decide to include their religion in it, fine, if not that's fine too..but they have to go through the legalities first, the license and what not.
If not for the leaning from churches, religious people, I'm sure the government would have already granted the right to marry for homosexuals, probably wouldn't ever have been an issue in the first place.
So how about we make darn sure that religion and government remain completely separate, which is hard to do because of the power some religions have, and the pandering of politicians
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