42nd Anniversary and Still No Justice »
Posted By AnteUp 6 months ago in News
On June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War between Israel and
the Arab States, Israeli fighter planes and
torpedo boats attacked the U.S. Navy intelligence ship Liberty for 90 minutes in international waters, following several hours of low-level reconnaissance flights by Israeli aircraft. In the incident, 34 American servicemen were killed and
171 more wounded.
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AnteUp6 months ago
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9th January 2004 affidavit of U.S. Navy Captain Ward Boston:
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"The evidence was clear. Both Adm. Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack ... was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew.... Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded -- a war crime...."-
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Thinker226 months ago
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> this attack ... was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew....
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If so how come that ship was not sunk? How come the crew members were left alive to tell this story?
Finally, WHAT were the tremendous benefits Israel gained from the "deliberate" attack on USS Liberty that could possibly justify the tremendous risk of this being discovered by the Americans?
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AnteUp6 months ago
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June 2009 article by Ray McGovern - 27 year CIA veteran:
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AnteUp6 months ago
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Regarding a 'USS Liberty Part II', 2008 comments from
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Admiral Mike Mullen - now Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
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American Free Press quoted Adm. Mullen as saying that it is very 'important' at this time that 'history not repeat itself', referring to increasing speculation that Israel might stage another such scenario to push the US into a war with Iran.
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jordan116 months ago
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Under the circumstances, it's hard to believe it was a "mistake". Coupled with Israel being caught spying on US intelligence more than once, & their continuing to build 'settlements' despite objections, I have to wonder why we baby them. Is it only because of their strategic location in the ME, & their ability to keep the Arabs under control militarily? Rhetorical.
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AnteUp6 months ago
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James M. Ennes,Jr. enlisted in the Navy at the age of seventeen
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during the Korean War. He was serving on the USS Liberty on
June 8th 1967.
The website linked below and maintained by Mr.Ennes has a link
to some of the best photos of the USS Liberty. Click on PHOTOS
and MAPS on the right side of the home page.
Any old Navy guy will cringe at the photo of the torpedo
damage. 25 - TWENTY-FIVE - of our sailors lost their lives
in that cramped crushed hollow from Hell!
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bruhaha6 months ago
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How can the attack be anything but deliberate. Israel claimed they thought that it was a specific Egyptian troop transport even though it looked nothing like that troop transport (which never left it's dock throughout the whole war) and was considerably larger than that troop transport.
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Israel is not the perfect little country that has never done anything wrong or illegal.
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AnteUp6 months ago
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What Israel did was excused by our government and I don't see how demanding
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anything from Israel at this point serves a purpose. What are they going to do - apologize?
What this article is about is how our sailors got the shaft from OUR GOVERNMENT.
That debt is NEVER over - it is NEVER so old that we should just forget it.
I would say that the sailors of the USS Liberty have been forgotten entirely TOO MUCH
in the last FORTY-TWO YEARS.
Let me state clearly - the attack was carried out by the state of ISRAEL - NOT the Jewish
people. Because of the lid our government placed on this "embarrassment", I would
be surprised if the Jewish people of the USA know anymore about this episode than
the rest of us. I stumbled on it about three years ago. In a thread someone had made
mention of the USS Liberty and her fate. I didn't have a clue what they were talking
about and went searching for information.
What I find most repugnant is that Washington not only regarded the attack as
a potential embarrassment to an ally - they gave our SAILORS every indication
that their own survival was pretty embarrassing. There really would not have been
much to discuss if she had gone down with all hands. Any neat and tidy scenario
could have been crafted with no loose ends. Our sailors on the USS Liberty paid
dearly, and deserve the same respect and concern that the sailors on he Cole
rightly received - that can ONLY happen if their story is known.
AND what's wrong with that? That they were killed and burned and maimed
by a friend.........................so, psst - Don't talk about it.......sweep it under the rug!
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AnteUp6 months ago
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Well then go searching online, that's what I did when I heard it mentioned.
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I didn't know a thing about it until recently. Look it up and form your own opinion.
These threads are not just to visit and rant - it can be educational too.
What good does it do if we all stick to our preconceived ideas and respond along
those lines?
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Newenglander6 months ago
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I was on duty in the Med during the attack on the Liberty. The attack was a false flag operation by Israel with full knowledge of the White house. Us carriers in the area were aware of the attack and were told not to respond to the Liberty's distress calls. I was later stationed with a man who was on the Liberty when attacked and he knew that distress calls had been sent out and that there was no response from nearby US war ships.
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AnteUp6 months ago
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Exactly, Newenglander.
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From James Bamford's "Body of Secrets" page 226:
At 11:29 A.M. (5:29 P.M. Liberty), Johnson took the unusual step of ordering the JCS to recall the fighters while the Liberty still lay smoldering, sinking, fearful of another attack, without aid, and with its decks covered with the dead, and dying, and wounded. Onboard the flagship of the Sixth Fleet, Rear Admiral Lawrence R. Geis, who commanded the carrier force in the Mediterranian, was angry and puzzled at the recall and protested it to Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara.
Admiral Geis was shocked by what he heard next. According to information obtained by 'Body of Secrets', "President Lyndon Johnson came on with a comment that he didn't care if the ship sunk, he would not embarrass his allies." Admiral Geis told Lieutenant Commander David Lewis, the head of the NSA group on the Liberty, about the comment but asked him to keep it secret until after Geis died. It was a promise that Lewis kept. -
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Thinker226 months ago
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>I was on duty in the Med during the attack on the Liberty. The attack was a false flag operation by Israel with full knowledge of the White house.
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If you were informed on all this (including "full knowledge of the White House") it means that you're no one else but the Johnson himself... but I do not recall that Johnson was on duty in the Med during the attack on the Liberty.
The rest of your story suggest that the US President, US government and top brass somehow conspired with the Israelis to attack an American ship... with no clear reason.
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AnteUp6 months ago
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Although Captain McGonagle was awarded the Congressional Medal
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of Honor for his heroism in saving the ship and bringing it back to safety, senior White House officials decided to keep the occasion as quiet as possible. Because the medal, the nation's highest honor, is only rarely awarded, it is almost always presented by the president in a high-profile White House ceremony.
But McGonagle's award was given by the secretary of the Navy in a low-profile, hastily arranged gathering at the Washington Navy Yard, a scrappy base on the banks of the smelly Anacostia River.
From 'Body of Secrets' - page 229
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