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Posted By buckncindykill 6 months, 3 weeks ago in NewsSnow has fallen in Dickinson in June, the
first time in nearly 60 years the city has seen snow past May.
National Weather Service meteorologist Janine Vining in Bismarck
says there were unofficial reports of a couple of inches of snow in
Dickins
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buckncindykill6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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I always find it entertaining when The Modern Christian perverters of Christianity pounce on any and every little incident to oppose a clean environment.
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It's like the Modern American Christian Theology is built upon Bigotry - (gays, Catholics) - Pollution - (endless support for polluters), and Retribution - (murdering Dr. Tiller).
When RELIGION becomes a weapon for such Morally Vacant "Ideals" ... one must conclude that it is no longer a religion ... but rather a POLITICAL movement.
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A Political Movement for the Hate-Filled Angry, Embittered Bigots of the world.
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Ahh ... my friend with the Russian Crest ... the Lover of Russia ... from the land of Gulags ...
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... no wonder you loved George W. Bush ... the President of Gulags.
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And you can stop calling people 'Comrade' Icono ... you are in The United States of America ... The USA ... although ... after 8 years of Bush ... with all their "Animal Farm' double-speak, torture, gulags, and spying ... you can be excused for thinking you were back home in Soviet Russia!
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Really?
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Is it as funny as when George W. Bush and Dick Cheny call Torture ... "Alternate Sets of Procedures?"
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You Modern Righties really slay me ... what with your Double-Speak ... your fluid embrace of all things Morally Vacant.
Tell me ... is there ANY stance the Modern Republican embraces that ISN'T Morally Compromised?
So you support Polluters and Global Warming ... got it.
Why am I not surprised?!
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Please ... tell me something that would make me think the Modern Republican is "morally superior".
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Is it the smug belief that y'all know that Torture is a 'good' thing?
Would it be your rabid support for Welfare for the Wealthy ... as y'all deny Children access to Health Care?
Would it be your support for your Republicans who Criminalize Seniors for crossing the border for cheaper medicines ... all to protect phenomenal profits for Pharmaceutical Companies?
Would it be your OUTRAGE at Bill Clinton's adultery ... and your SILENCE at Newt Gingriche's adultery ... even though his adultery occurred at the very same time ... with a similarly aged young woman ... and who dumped his wife while she was fighting cancer ... even while he was voicing OUTRAGE at Bill Clinton?
I mean ... as a former supporter of Republicans ... I would LOVE to hear some evidence that portrays Modern Republicans as anything BUT Morally Vacant.
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Right ... of which ... the RIGHT used to claim they demanded in their candidates.
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Until they elected a Draft-Dodging, Alcoholic, Silver-Spoon fed Mediocre Trust-Baby ... and regular Cocaine Imbiber.
Oh ... and accused rapist.
http://www.counterpunch.org/carter1220.html
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slate6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Oh ... and accused rapist
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Clinton was your guy Goppy , but thanks for reminding us.
I'm still trying to figure out how you made this about Fundie Christians though. Maybe it's time to get out of Granny gear and shift into first or second into a whole new realm of thinking.
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Nice diversion ... the classic 'total word drill down' ... to obfuscate your Ideological opponents pov.
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As you and I both know ... it's tried and true method to link unusual weather incidents with the long term impact of co2 emissions and other man-induced environmental changes ... Global Warming.
It's the Right's desperate support for a link between weather and climate change that is one of the larger pillars of the Right's Moral Vacancy of being ongoing supporters of unlimited environmental damage.
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As Ann Coulter provided the rationale of The Modern Republican's assessment of the environment ... "God said ... this is your planet ... take it ... rape it."
And that, my friends, defines the Modern Right's approach to our shared environment.
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icono16 months, 3 weeks ago
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The People's Vodka does taste better on Sunday.
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My Preacher, who is a Commissar of the Politically Correct Theology Dept, likes it also.
He says it is a great cure for Moral Vacancy.
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z6zEHG_qQU
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Thanks nostalgia!
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mesodude6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Name all the advanced degrees you have that make you more knowledgeable than thousands of scientists all over the world, bucky. What? We can't hear you...Did you say NONE? That's what we thought...So basically we're dealing with extreme con arrogance and hubris (again). When will lying, know-nothing cons STHU? ;-P
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buckncindykill6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Well mesonumbnuts.
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You have even less education on the subject then I do, and yet here you are opening your trap and disturbing the balance of nature. Talk about carbon footprint!
Better you talk about and stick with, a subject you're very learned in; e.g. what color is an orange?
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mesodude6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Well mesonumbnuts.
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You have even less education on the subject then I do, and yet here you are opening your trap and disturbing the balance of nature. Talk about carbon footprint!"
--Ok, well...I couldn't find a coherent answer to my question in all of that so let me rephrase... again...You have NO advanced degrees.Right? Nor do you have any scientific expertise whatsoever and you have NO rational basis for believing that you're more knowledgeable on this subject than Al Gore or any of the thousands of scientists from all over the world who've devoted their lives to studying science. In fact you really don't have ANY idea what you're talking about, bucky. Does that pretty much sum up your qualifications? ;-0
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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meso ... it's not that he's got degrees .... it's that he's been a Government Employee most of his life.
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Even now ... he gets that check from Uncle Sam ... which you and I pay for.
See, don't you get it, meso?
THIS is why buckncindykill is so profoundly opposed to government .... be they Carbon Caps .... or Medicaid ... or a National Health Plan.
buckncindykill is one of that person who HATES their employer.
Now ... how many people do you know like that?
I can think of a dozen right off the top of my head.
Here's this person ... buckncindykill ... worked his whole life for the Government ... owes the government for his career ... his mortgage ... even feeding his family .... and he is just PO'd about it.
You find this a lot with Government Workers ... they CAN'T STAND the Government.
Of course, they don't mind accepting that check every month.
No ... they don't mind that.
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buckncindykill6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Goppy you poor wretched ignoramous.
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I don't hate the gov't. I just hate certain types of gov't. Like the kind you espouse. You know the one; where everyone is beholden to it, is addicted to it and needs it for their survival.
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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LOL ... YOU are what you claim to hate!
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YOU are beholden to Government.
I'VE never taken a pay check from the government my entire life.
YOU are addicted to Government ... need it ... and have needed it for your very survival your entire life.
I'm an independent businessman.
Whining about your 'stipend' ... see ... that's the essential angry modern rightie ... embittered, angry ... whiner.
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buckncindykill6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"I'VE never taken a pay check from the government my entire life."
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That'll change next month when you receive social security and medicare payments.
If you're an independent businessman, it must be gov't contracted, because otherwise you would be screaming bloody murder with what Obama is going to do with healthcare and your business.
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Yes ... that was a typo.
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As you know ... I've previously ... and correctly identified your avatar as Thomas More.
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But I appreciate the method of you pouncing on my comment - and ascribing all manner of mock pity thereon ... ... ... when in fact ... ... ... you've read numerous comments of mine that identified your More avatar.
Let's see ... conniving to create an aura of ignorance to an Ideological opponent ... even though you were aware of numerous comments correct identification ... yep ... I'd say that qualifies for Moral Vacancy.
Thomas More would be proud ... NOT!
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Yes ... that was a typo.
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As you know ... I've previously ... and correctly identified your avatar as Thomas More.
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But I appreciate the method of you pouncing on my comment - and ascribing all manner of mock pity thereon ... ... ... when in fact ... ... ... you've read numerous comments of mine that identified your More avatar.
Let's see ... conniving to create an aura of ignorance to an Ideological opponent ... even though you were aware of numerous comments correct identification ... yep ... I'd say that qualifies for Moral Vacancy.
Thomas More would be proud ... NOT!
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Hey ... I'm just providing an outline of the BIGGER picture ... the backdrop of what The Modern Republican stands for ... something that Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly do every day.
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And you like THEM ... right?
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Did I not present this 'ideals' the right way?
Was I not CRASS enough in my delivery?
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Oh ... sorry ... that's your version of the Fairness Doctrine ... right?
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We have a story that is clearly preposterous ... but we demand that everyone give this story the weight of science ... as if we believed in science. And do not attempt to portray us as the raving lunatics that we are."
LOL ... Gotcha!
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nostalgia6 months, 3 weeks ago
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The bigger story is the latest report from NASA
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They have finally woken up to the fact that the sun actually heats the earth and when the sun is more active temperature on earth increases
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Well ... I like how you have agreed with the scientists about the linkage between the sun and the Earth.
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Many of my fellow Christian Conservatives have told me when it's warm ... it's God smiling on us ... and when it's cloudy ... it's God's displeasure with Catholics.
I don't want to tell you what they think it means when there's a tornado ... but I've been told that they have warned Elton John about certain of their eschatological dualisms .... if you know what I mean.
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nostalgia6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Many of my fellow Christian Conservatives have told me when it's warm ... it's God smiling on us ... and when it's cloudy ... it's God's displeasure with Catholics."
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nostalgia6 months, 3 weeks ago
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I am really amused by the left's absolute obsession with Limbaugh - a talk radio host who dropped out of college
Why is he such a threat to you and your Messiah?
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mesodude6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Why is he such a threat to you and your Messiah?
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I would think that the Messiah and his minions would consider Limbaugh a mere peon"
--I love Rush. I love that he makes Republicans quake in their jackboots and I love that *cons* love him (even despite the fact that he's largely responsible for the implosion of the GOP). Rush is awesome. 2010 can't come fast enough for me. I love witnessing cons in a panic. ;-P
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Klarissa6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Justice - you no longer need to be a member of the mindless masses yourself!
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Justice - the latest research, a scientific study:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/09051...
The scientists are using mud and rocks from far below the equatorial Pacific Ocean floor to uncover details about the climate history on Earth. The sediment layers recovered from six drilling locations act like pages from a book, and record inch-by-inch Earth’s climate history.
The two-month expedition succeeded in obtaining records ranging from the present to the warmest sustained ‘greenhouse’ period on Earth around 53 million years ago. At that time, alligators lived as far north as the Arctic, and palm trees grew in the Rocky Mountains. Reconstructions have shown that there were no significant polar ice caps, and greenhouse gas concentrations were several times higher than today.
The super-greenhouse early Eocene was followed by gradual cooling and the sudden buildup of major ice caps on Antarctica around 34 million years ago, leaving its mark in the equatorial sediment cores that the scientists are bringing back to Hawaii.
The voyage discovered the effect of large-scale climatic changes on the oceans of the past. 53 million years ago, carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was much higher than today, and made the ocean much more acidic, such that only little carbonate is preserved in sediments recovered from those times. In contrast, during the buildup of ice on Antarctica, the ocean became less acidic very rapidly, and more carbonate was suddenly preserved in the deep ocean. The transition from warm to cool climates took place in less than 100,000 years – well within the time span that humans have been living on our planet.-
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Justice4All6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Hay, I'm a scientist. And with the economy that Bush left us with I may need a job soon. For the right price I'll tell you that global warming is a farce.
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Yes, I have dug sharks teeth from dunes near Goodland Kansas. Big Deal. That was 50 million years ago. Not when I dug them, but when the sharks died, just to be clear.
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canadianrancher576 months, 3 weeks ago
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I live about 100 miles north of Minot and we have been colder than what would be considered normal for over a year now, any time I have mentioned this to people they say that I am just taalking of weather which is location specific and not the climate. This cooling has been going on for over a year now and seems constant and does cover much of Canada and in some degree the northern states,[not sure about when you get farther south] also the winter in much of Europe was cooler than normal.
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Now if this [trend] continues I am left wondering how people like Al Gore will face the public, I don't have problems with people who have opinions but when they create a cult of followers who wish to change everything on something that has yet to be proven it can be a real waste of time and resources, and in some cases it puts alot of money in the pockets of those who yell that the sky is falling.
Up here we have a saying that if you don't like the weather wait 15 minutes and it will likely change [short term thinking], I feel the same could be said about the climate, if you don't like the climate now you should have been here 10,000 year ago or even a million years ago [long term thinking].
I will never deny that the weather changes and the same goes for the climate, but what I will question is the human effect on both, and when it come to those of us who question this effect I doubt that you will find a single one of us who will not agree that we could and should be more responsible toward the health of our planet and the use of its resources.-
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nostalgia6 months, 3 weeks ago
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This explains toe cooler than normal temperature
New Solar Cycle Predictions
An international panel of experts has released a new prediction for the next solar cycle, stating that Solar Cycle 24 will peak in May 2013 with a below-average number of sunspots. Led by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and sponsored by NASA, the panel includes a dozen members from nine different government and academic institutions.
Their forecast sets the stage for at least another year of mostly quiet conditions before solar activity resumes in earnest.
"If our prediction is correct, Solar Cycle 24 will have a peak sunspot number of 90, the lowest of any cycle since 1928 when Solar Cycle 16 peaked at 78," says panel chairman Doug Biesecker of the NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center, Boulder, Colo.
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canadianrancher576 months, 3 weeks ago
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Thanks for the link nostalgia, I have heard a few comments lately about La nina which is the opposite of El nino, so I'm told. If we are experiancing a La nina event it should mean that the ocean currents at the equator are cooling which to my way of thinking means less solar heating. It always seems odd to me that when we get an El nino event which usually results in warmer temps we all get to hear about it since it goes along with the global warming idea and yet a La nina event is usually ignored .
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nostalgia6 months, 3 weeks ago
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You might find this article interesting - Russian scientists have been warming about a cooling cycle as the result of sun activity for some time
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Russian Scientist Say Buy Fur For Global Cooling
(Oleg Sorokhtin for RIA Novosti) – Stock up on fur coats and felt boots! This is my paradoxical advice to the warm world.
Earth is now at the peak of one of its passing warm spells. It started in the 17th century when there was no industrial influence on the climate to speak of and no such thing as the hothouse effect. The current warming is evidently a natural process and utterly independent of hothouse gases.
The real reasons for climate changes are uneven solar radiation, terrestrial precession (that is, axis gyration), instability of oceanic currents, regular salinity fluctuations of the Arctic Ocean surface waters, etc. There is another, principal reason—solar activity and luminosity. The greater they are the warmer is our climate.
Astrophysics knows two solar activity cycles, of 11 and 200 years. Both are caused by changes in the radius and area of the irradiating solar surface. The latest data, obtained by Habibullah Abdusamatov, head of the Pulkovo Observatory space research laboratory, say that Earth has passed the peak of its warmer period, and a fairly cold spell will set in quite soon, by 2012. Real cold will come when solar activity reaches its minimum, by 2041, and will last for 50-60 years or even longer.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en=russian+scientist+buy...
You can use the names of the Russian scientists in this article to find other articles on the subject
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mesodude6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"I live about 100 miles north of Minot and we have been colder than what would be considered normal for over a year now, any time I have mentioned this to people they say that I am just taalking of weather which is location specific and not the climate."
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--I guess the questions I have for skeptics are more common sense-based rather than science-based. Why are skeptics mostly Republicans? Why are people with ZERO scientific expertise convinced they know better than thousands of scientists from all over the world? Why are most of the few deniers with scientific backgrounds American? Why do skeptics pretend that profit and commerce have nothing to do with the fact that it's mostly Republicans who are global warming deniers? Why do those who know the GOP has been perfectly willing to wh*re our country for cheap immigrant labor so eager to dismiss that likelihood when it comes to the issue of global warming? These are all questions that no con can answer and until right wingers can answer these basic, common sense questions, no one believes they are ready to have a serious debate about science. ;-P -
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"Now if this [trend] continues I am left wondering how people like Al Gore will face the public, I don't have problems with people who have opinions but when they create a cult of followers who wish to change everything on something that has yet to be proven it can be a real waste of time and resources, and in some cases it puts alot of money in the pockets of those who yell that the sky is falling."
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canadianrancher576 months, 3 weeks ago
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First off mesodude, when it comes to the debate on global warning I am not a skeptic, all I have to do is look at the history of the past 10,000 years or so, first- most of the northern hemisphere was cover with ice that was caused by , well your guess is as good as mine. Previous to that the world was a much warmer place which I think can be proved by science also we had higher levels of CO2, which I think can also be proved by science.
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What I am skeptical about is the idea that mankind is the major cause of global warming, we may have accelarated the warmng of the planet to some degree but there are many other factors that have contributed as well. When I look at the global warming that is taking place the first thing that comes to mind is an acceleration curve, where many contributing factors start a process that then feeds apon itself,. once the process is in motion it gains momentum and even if you remove some of the contributing causes it will only delay the end result.
I read all sorts of things that are written by people who claim that they are concerned about the effect that we are having on our planet and yet what they are proposing at times only contributes to the problem. A simple example of this is right now we are we are being advised by many experts that we should be composting alot of our household waste and make soil that we can use to grow a garden, simple enough and sounds like a good idea. The problem with this green idea is when you compost material you will produce methane gas, which is the lowest level of hydrocarbon fuels, you don't even have to burn methane to produce CO2 since it will oxidize at a temperature that most of us would not imagine as hot. So by being green we are not helping but are damaging our enviroment.
In the last week the United Nations realeased a report on agriculture which proposed that farmers till the soil less and use less fertilizer in the production of food , sounds like a great planet saving idea unless one figures in the size of the decline in food production that would occur from such a practice, it might be good for the planet but it would not be to good for our species, unless you are one of those who really doesn't have to worry about money-
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mesodude6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Thanks for that canadianrancher. I won't ask you why you're convinced *your* understanding of the science is superior to that of many thousands of scientists the world over. I don't want to go into that. As I said earlier, I'm really not prepared to have a debate about science with anyone until questions that are a lot more basic are addressed. I believe arguments like yours (as well intentioned as they may be and as earnest in your beliefs as you clearly are) are really a red herring for the 800 pound gorilla in the room that right wingers refuse to talk about --turning a buck. I don't even understand why people *pretend* that this has anything to do with science when anyone with a brain knows it's about $$.
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I think that the turning a buck idea applies to alot of people in most istances, in this story there are those who refuse to change from old ideas to new ones, there are those like researchers who can gain funding to study an idea especially if it is seen as a threat to us, there is is the media who can make a story of it and there are people like Al Gore who have also turned a buck from it.
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Even for myself it does come down to dollars, in a year such as this it has become very expensive for alot of us who seeded our crops starting at the first of may only to have to have them freeze off and in the first week of June it froze every morning which is very uncommon. In the last 20 years there has been a real move to grow corn in our area and with the period of warn years it has worked out well, but with the past year not coming up with enough heat units for corn it meant a finacial loss for most who grew corn and this year seems to be starting off sort of the same, so to me who is right on whether it is going to warn or cool is very important.-
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"I think that the turning a buck idea applies to alot of people in most istances, in this story there are those who refuse to change from old ideas to new ones, there are those like researchers who can gain funding to study an idea especially if it is seen as a threat to us, there is is the media who can make a story of it and there are people like Al Gore who have also turned a buck from it."
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--I'm not surprised that you're able to come up with several example of ways the left might benefit (to the tune of small potatoes, quite frankly) from this but have little to say about the BILLIONS oil companies and other industries stand to lose. You also seem to think that scientists the world over are a homogeneous group and that Europeans and Asians approach the issue the way you or I would. That's simplistic and you surely must know this. Scientific research isn't funded exactly the same way here as it is in other countries and the idea that tens of thousands of scientists support one side vs a much smaller number of skeptics because they all want to become rich is just silly on its face.
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canadianrancher576 months, 3 weeks ago
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The reason I put the line in about those who refuse to change from old idea to new ones was to cover those who do profit from the status quo, and that group includes the multinationals who would suffer if we actually cut back on the use of oil and gas , if you think that my comment was aimed at just the left, I maybe should have included those on the right who are now pushing for a shale oil policy which will just contribute more to green house gasses. But if the idea of shale oil is adopted in the near furture under the Obamas stimulus plan it sort of gets us away from the idea of right vs left in the global warming debate. and it will be sold to us as an energy independance idea, which the masses will likely endorse.
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I had a discussion with a university professor once about what he thought the climate would have been like on the earth if we had not been struck by a large meteorite which was sort of the accepted cause of the ice age, he said that he did not know but would discuss it with some of his friend since he thought it was a interesting question, about 4 months later we ran into one another again and he said that he did not have any way to prove it but the agreement of his friends and himself was that the planet would have likely been considerably warmer, They had different therories on why they thought it would be warmer but had agreed on one which is sort of the basis of my thoughts. They were not influenced by big oil or enviromentalists or funding of any sort but the idea that was presented to me was that after the world was hit by a meteorite and the dust settled the world began to warm again and they even had discussed the idea of greenhouse gasses that were created in many ways on the earth even without a contribution by mankind.
I believe the idea that global warming is happening, given the fact that the world has warmed over a long period of time even without our contribution, and in my first comment I said that we have likely accelerated the process. When I look at graphs of how the planet is warming compared to the amount of green house gasses we are producing is could be easy to put the blame on one cause since they are so closely related, but one must also consider the fact that as the amount of ice in our polar regions deline and also as the temperature of the oceans increase we have a compound effect of constant or increasing heating vs. a limiting cooling effect since there is less ice and cool water in the oceans to moderate the temperatures.
Sorry for being so long winded, but I don't deny global warming, I don't deny that we have contribute to it , what I will argue against is that we could have prevented it.
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Klarissa6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Interesting that my factual, scientifically sound research article, with the original article referenced on Science News, was negged.
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oneironaut4206 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Interesting that my factual, scientifically sound research article, with the original article referenced on Science News, was negged."
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mesodude6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"I can't speak for everyone who negged your post, but for me, I gave you a neg because you posted the article and made it seem like it proved man made climate change has been proven wrong."
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--Since I think it's safe to say your suggestion is rhetorical, what else can we expect from people who think that they and their ideology are the center of the universe--despite America having REJECTED them and their platform time and time again over the past several years? Face it, only a con would be so delusional as to think one study is by itself some earth-shattering piece of evidence that completely discredits the opposing point of view. Cons believe *they* are the world and so it makes perfect sense to them that if they can produce something...anything--that supports their point of view, this outweighs the evidence of those with an opposing POV.
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mesodude6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Some people just neg because of the person. So much for independently minded, open to new ideas, libs."
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--Correction: Some people neg because "the person" deliberately and repeatedly posts LIES and misinformation that she makes no effort to back up. Some people neg because "the person" rarely knows what she's talking about, doesn't know how to debate coherently, and loves to post (but rarely respond to) others' "factual, scientifically sound research." So, I hope I cleared up your confusion and befuddlement, Klarissa. ;-P
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pokydoke6 months, 3 weeks ago
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I am quite frankly tired of arguing about weather incidents like snow in the Dakotas in June to deny global warming. The Earth is warming up and the cause may be natural and it may be anthropogenic, most likely a combination of the two. As the Earth warms we don't really know the full ramification of it.The best solution would be to make an effort to reduce green house gases and other pollutants, a win win situation.
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Modern Republicans are a BACKWARD looking race.
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They don't like change.
This desire is SO STRONG ... they are willing to overlook any evidence to the contrary that things are changing.
Truth be told ... the majority would be happiest if they could go back to 1952. And stay there.
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mesodude6 months, 3 weeks ago
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poky, I LOL when people who don't even know how to use an internet search engine properly (before they thoroughly embarrass themselves making statements contradicting what they've said in the past) pretend that they are more knowledgeable than those with advanced degrees and decades of scientific study behind them. I don't even waste my time arguing science with these morons because I find it ludicrous that they wouldn't realize everyone knows their true motive is protecting profit and commerce at any cost. These poorly educated social rejects who voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin (after voting for Bush twice) are a complete joke and a disgrace to human kind.
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Klarissa6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Psycho - who has said on here that there is no global warming, better said as climate change?
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You had put words in other mouths to come up with a statement like "The whole goddamn bunch of you morons."??
Tell us, do you think that the climate has been like this last year for eons??
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bluetexasvalley6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Klarissa, those of us who have followed and studied science most of our lives are perfectly aware that climate change is a perpetual happening on our planet. Your scientific article provided no new information; we have known about this for many years. Glad you are finally catching up.
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No one is arguing that climate change is a new phenomenon. What is new is the *rapid rate* at which the change is currently proceeding and it appears to be exponential. It is unprecedented. It is worrisome.
O.K. Now you can get back to your reading of the Middle School Science 101 textbook.
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simonsez6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Headlines GW lovers would like:
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"Due to the increased ice pack in the north, polar bears are now ranging as far south as the Jersey shore. There was even an unconfirmed report of a sighting in Manhattan near Times Square. Residents are advised to keep pets and livestock indoors".
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simonsez6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Experts warn that 3 of the last five years have been the coldest ever recorded in history and could suggest a dangerous trend.
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Loss of growing season, fertile land being overtaken by expanding glaciers could wipe out one quarter of all species by the year 2100".
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Sorry ... but you are either a willful LIAR ... or an advocate of DIS-INFORMATION.
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Hey ... those two might be one and the same ... I'll need to get back to you on that.
But in the meantime ... here's a graph from NASA's website showing a graph of the Earth's average temperature since 1880.
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/...
As you can see ... GRAPHICALLY ... the past 10 years have seen a dramatic rise in average temperature.
Of course, you can always claim that God whispered in your ear and told you otherwise.
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simonsez6 months, 3 weeks ago
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"Fiji reported it is closing down it's lucrative tourist business as the cooling temps are killing the palm trees and the grass on golf courses.
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The convention center has proposed a world symposium on global cooling be scheduled here, but proponents indicate they prefer a warmer location for such a meeting".
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Goppy6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Well ... you ARE right about the cooling....
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Fiji has a cooling trade wind that blows from the east-southeast throughout most of the year.
In addition ... winds drop to a whisper in the evening and pick up again by midmorning to offer perfectly timed cooling.
Yes ... Fiji DOES have cooling ... but it's typical of the island ... pretty standard stuff.
And the shrinking tourist business is due directly to the World Economic Catastrophe that occurred due to the Incompetent Management of Government.
Can you try again?
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Klarissa6 months, 3 weeks ago
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Forrest, did I say " made it seem like it proved man made climate change has been proven wrong.that??" No.
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Interesting that you asked that, though.
It is new information, not political opinion, but research by an international group of real scientists.
"The entire scientific team is made up of 60 scientists from over 15 different countries and represents scientists at every stage of their career from graduate students to senior professors.
Scientists, drillers, and technical staff participated in live interactive video conferences with enthused students and teachers who learned about the expedition’s discoveries, ocean drilling, and life at sea.
The scientists supported by the UK are Heiko Pälike, Paul Wilson, Edgar Kirsty (National Oceanography Centre, Southampton), Paul Bown and Tom Dunkley Jones (University College London), and Peter Fitch (University of Leicester)."
The article is meant to provide additional information to what we already know.
I believe that the climate is changing.
Do humans really make a difference? I don't know.
Should do our best to conserve what we have? of course.
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ForrestPhelps6 months, 3 weeks ago
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First, thanks for replying. And I do mean that. I like it when when can exchange thoughts and perspectives. Now, as to what you posted.
I simply asked you if you had posted the link to the article because you felt it proved something about climate change/global warming. I'm glad you found it "interesting" that I would ask that. I asked because, after having read the article you linked to, I was at a loss as to why you had posted it.
I still don't understand what you're trying to tell me. I mean, your last comment about whether Al Gore "deserves" to make millions doesn't sound like a reasoned, science-based, discussion of the subject.
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Bluedragon9126 months, 3 weeks ago
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Global warming is a misnomer. Climate change is more accurate, because "climate" refers to "The meteorological conditions, including temperature, precipitation, and wind, that characteristically prevail in a particular region."
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As for the global warming being the sun's fault: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/09051...-
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