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Posted By pc25 5 months, 2 weeks ago in NewsGee. I wonder what changed their minds?
Could it have something to do with the fact that democrats have quadrupled the budget deficit in one year?
Or, maybe it's those unemployment numbers?
The US lost over 2.5 million jobs in the first four months of this year under the Obama Administration.
The US unemployment rate is now at 9.4%... the highest rate in 25 years.
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pc255 months, 2 weeks ago
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/pol...
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Trust on Issues
Voters Now Trust Republicans More than Democrats on Economic Issues
oters now trust Republicans more than Democrats on six out of 10 key issues, including the top issue of the economy.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 45% now trust the GOP more to handle economic issues, while 39% trust Democrats more.
This is the first time in over two years of polling that the GOP has held the advantage on this issue. The parties were close in May, with the Democrats holding a modest 44% to 43% edge. The latest survey was taken just after General Motors announced it was going into bankruptcy as part of a deal brokered by the Obama administration that gives the government majority ownership of the failing automaker.-
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mesodude5 months, 2 weeks ago
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---and just to show everyone that I'm aware that not *all* cons are lying delusional nutjobs...
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"Nationally, just the opposite is occurring. The Republican base is shrinking while Democrats are making gains.
If the fact that Democrats control the House of Representatives, the Senate and the Oval Office doesn't convince you, then perhaps recent polls will.
The seven most recent polls listed on RealClearPolitics.com show that Democratic President Obama's approval ratings stand at an average of 60.8 percent. Those numbers haven't wavered much since he took office.
In contrast, when Republican President George W. Bush left office, even Republican-leaning Fox News had his approval rating at only 34 percent.
Republicans hoping for a comeback in the 2010 races for the House and Senate are also likely to be disappointed.
A recent Fox News poll showed Congress with an approval rating of just 41 percent. The problem is, the Democrat-controlled Congress is polling better now than five months ago, when its approval rating was in the teens, according to various polls tracked by PollingReport.com.
A Washington Post/ABC News survey in April also found that only 21 percent of likely voters nationally now identify themselves as Republicans. That compares with 35 percent who identify themselves as Democrats."
read the rest of: How to pull the Republicans' bus out of the ditch
http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/republican-18018-...
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Wolfie20075 months, 2 weeks ago
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Tcaros5 months, 2 weeks ago
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mesodude5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Meanwhile, the Republican Party seems determined to implode. It is like they want to be politically irrelevant. Democrats held their nose and let Senator Liebermann caucus with them when he won reelection as an Independent in 2006. They pragmatically decided doing so just increased their share of committee seats and power is what the game is all about in Congress. When Senator Arlen Specter switched parties yesterday, some Republicans like Rush Limbaugh felt compelled to kick him on the rear on his way out the door. The message is clear: rather than be a “big tent” party, The Republican Party wants to become even more insular and actually enjoys being mean and nasty.
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How Republicans can possibly become politically relevant again while maintaining these attitudes is unclear at best. There does not appear to be a new set of Americans waiting out there for which this message has any appeal. They don’t understand why Republicans have to be both insular and obstructionist. They want politicians to actually solve problems. Since The Republican Party is now essentially The Conservative Party, their only answer to today’s problems is to throw sand into the gears of government. The rest of us are pretty sure that since this didn’t work for the last eight years it probably won’t work very well in the next eight years either.
Moreover, many of these same conservatives, who just a few years ago we proclaiming “My country, right are wrong”, now want to secede from the United States. Apparently, to many Republicans loyalty to country only lasts as long as they are in charge. According to a
The great Republican Party implosion
"Research 2000 poll, half of the Republicans in Texas prefer seceding to staying in the union. There is patriotism for you. I guess this is easier to take your chips and go home than it is to do what you have to do to regain power: accommodate others with many but not all of your opinions. A pragmatic Republican Party for example would be agnostic on gay marriage, since a new generation of Americans simply doesn’t understand why gays should not marry. This would not only encourage not only gay independents to become Republican, but also large number of Libertarians who don’t understand why in a free country gays cannot be as free as the rest of us. Since they cannot, they hamstring themselves into what looks like a long period of political irrelevance."
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k9kssr5 months, 2 weeks ago
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pc255 months, 2 weeks ago
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the correct link is here
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pc255 months, 2 weeks ago
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this has not been a great day for Obama and the Dems
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Two Dems defect in NY Senate, control flips to GOP
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/08/two-dems-def...
What better way to complete a day in which Barack Obama’s economic policies lose the majority in a Gallup poll, Dems lose the edge on the GOP in a Rasmussen poll on economics, and the Supreme Court apparently blocks Obama’s dictatorial dissolution of an American carmaker than to highlight a “parliamentary coup” in Albany, NY? Manic Monday turned literal in the New York state Senate, where Democrats Pedro Espada and Hiram Monserrate switched sides and gave control of the chamber to the Republicans, only five months after losing control of it:
Last week the Labour Party in the UK was soundly defeated by the Tories in the local elections. They lost districts that they have held for over 30 years.
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fiftynine5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"All of this might not bode well for the Dems come 2010"...lolololol
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Yep you twenty percenters keep having your little reach around partys and hope for the worst...
Ain't happening pc2.5...Don't you get it...America was tired of the rights crap...nothing but lies and fear mongering...no solution to any problem in eight friggi'n years...Are blind or stupid ? You think the American public was so stupid that they couldn't see that the very best minds that the so called republican party had to offer couldn't get the job done...lol
America saw what a bunch of incompetent losers the republican party had to offer and said NO.....Dumb fugs like you think with your rants and misinformation that you can change what we saw over the last eight years..? LOLOLOLOL -
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mesodude5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I think this story is one of the main reasons cons like pc are perceived as complete idiots. If it's not global warming they're making a ridiculous generalization about (based on a cold snap somewhere that week) it's a single right leaning poll on which they're desperately pinning all their hopes and dreams of a comeback. ROTFLMAO. How many times has FOX or WSJ or hotgas reported some doom and gloom and within a matter of weeks the poll numbers for Obama or the Dems are right back up? Did these people simply SLEEP through school? Have they NO idea that a single poll does NOT a trend make? Wow...Extreme con idiocy. ;-0
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jordan115 months, 2 weeks ago
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pc255 months, 2 weeks ago
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the gallup poll had similar findings
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Tcaros5 months, 2 weeks ago
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The economy is recovering; housing market is coming back, jobless rate slowed down, dow is at 8,700. The restructuring of American industry has begun.
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Most of all we have an example in the world and can feel proud of our leaders. Thanks to Obama and his excellent choices.
We started the road to recovery from the failed Bush policies and the "warrantless" sabotage of the economy.-

crghss5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"The economy is recovering; housing market is coming back, jobless rate slowed down, dow is at 8,700. The restructuring of American industry has begun."
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What are you smoking? Chrysler went in to bankruptcy today, or is at least trying to. Unemployment is still raising. Housing prices are still falling.
"feel proud of our leaders"
Who Hillary? Korea situations is actually worse. Didn't think that was possible. Janet Napolitano? Doesn't even know where the 9/11 attackers came from(scary). Biden? Lose cannon who can't shut up?
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Pecossam5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Tcaros,
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You state: "The economy is recovering; housing market is coming back, jobless rate slowed down, dow is at 8,700. The restructuring of American industry has begun."
Reminds me of something similar Joseph Stalin said just after the WORST of the Great Famine and just before he started his infamous "Show Trials" of the 1930s:
"Life is easier; life is better." or words to that effect.
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Tcaros5 months, 2 weeks ago
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The economy is recovering; housing market is coming back, jobless rate slowed down, dow is at 8,700. The restructuring of American industry has begun.
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Most of all we have an example in the world and can feel proud of our leaders. Thanks to Obama and his excellent choices.
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canadianrancher575 months, 2 weeks ago
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Not a good time to be a leader in most countries of the world right now, I don't know if anyone else feels this way but the best thing that could have happened for the Republicans has happened, and that was a changing of the guard at the onset of a very serious economic collapse. I don't think that it would have mattered who won the last election, the winner would have gotten smacked big time by this collapse. If one looks at the graph of the unempoyment in the article the increases started way back in 08 and has continued at what looks like a constant incline. I am curious at times what actions the Republicans would have taken if elected since Timothy G was on board for them to start with.
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To me the saddest part of this story has not got anything to do with the Democrats losing favor from the voters,it has to do with the reason why they have fallen from favor. It seems that there is a very large number of people who believe that the government is supposed to be able to fix all the problems and do it right away.-

fiftynine5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"there is a very large number of people who believe that the government is supposed to be able to fix all the problems and do it right away.".....Exactly...That is why i mentioned all the time that these problems and any of Obama's policy's did not happen in three or four months...
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mesodude5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"there is a very large number of people who believe that the government is supposed to be able to fix all the problems and do it right away.".....Exactly...That is why i mentioned all the time that these problems and any of Obama's policy's did not happen in three or four months..."
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Wolfie20075 months, 2 weeks ago
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So you don't think it would have mattered who was elected everything would be the same, huh?
What do you have a crystal ball because that is a very broad statement. Nobody knows how different it might have been without Obama but I can guarantee that it would be different.
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TheRealizer5 months, 2 weeks ago
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pc255 months, 2 weeks ago
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tanglang5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Our economy cannot recover until we begin to EXPORT as much as we IMPORT."
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That goes for labor too. Instead of importing illegal aliens and giving them jobs we need to be exporting those dirtbags right the F back to where they are from. -
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pc255 months, 2 weeks ago
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Onama's economic stimulus..........
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simonsez5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Regardless of whether they still call themselves Republican or something else these days, they are still out there and they don't like the approach this administration has taken to solve the economic problems.
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The stimulus package is a joke and his push to do everything at once is going to meet much resistance by the American people. -
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BB645 months, 2 weeks ago
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Why does this surprise anyone. It's called buyers remorse. We've all had it one time or another. The new (or new to you) car you bought that didn't meet your expectations. The first time you moved out from mom & dads. Seemed great until you found out just how costly it actually is.
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This is the same thing. Many of you voted for hope and change without understanding what he really was. Most of the conservatives tried warning you but you didn't listen. Now that you've lost your savings and jobs, you realized the mistake. The DNC isn't totally at fault, they didn't lie about their candidate, Obama. They didn't tell you anything about him. He never explained where he stood on business, abortion, civil rights, the military or the rest. What he did promise, getting the troops out of Iraq the day he would take office was a lie. He's keeping them there and sending more troops to Afghanistan. He claims not to want to run GM or Chrysler yet he's seized both firms and ordered the terminations of all keep management. In the end, he's turning ownership of both firms to the UAW, paying back one of his larger contributors. So much for open and honest government. I suppose this surprises only his constituents.
Obama is pretty much a disaster. Jobs are leaving, look at Microsoft. Foreign investment is pulling out too. We're in deep trouble if fuel prices continue to increase. He seems to forget that the money and credit cards he's maxing out are actually our tax money. We cannot continue to overspend like this. Like FDR, he's creating government jobs not helping the free market creating the jobs. We're no longer looking at a recession, we're looking at a new DNC produced Depression.
So I suspect this is why the Obama experiment, much like the "Great" experiment of the USSR failed too. I just hope we have the ability to hold out for 1321 days.-
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joeblowe5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I will confidently predict that as long as unemployment keeps rising - along with the national debt - that polling numbers for Republicans will continue to rise. Or at least, that the approval numbers for the current crop of numbskulls will continue to fall. So far, the Republicans haven't really presented a strong alternate proposal for improving things. Maybe they are just holding out until the Democrat's approval ratings are so low that even a different BAD idea will look good? .
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BB645 months, 2 weeks ago
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I'm a member of the GOP. As a member I see press releases but most of the media fails to report anything submitted. Scott Walker is challenging Governor Diamond Jim Doyle and really making a case. The media hasn't reported a single idea on how we can start repairing the damage Doyle has done. The media failed to report why we've had a huge number of businesses close and move to southern states like Texas and Tennessee. It was our very high taxes. The media is totally in the hip pocket of the DNC. Again, this is Wisconsin so I'm not attacking all media.
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Then again, you had Representative Paul Ryan outline an alternative budget to the Porkulus package. They gave his 2 sentences and attacked him for the next 2 weeks. So perhaps I do mean all of the media. -

gwhiddon5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Oh yeah they have - reduce taxes on businesses in a recession. It works everytime, and this advice has been ignored by the Democratic majority in Congress.
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All Obama can come up with is increase taxes, and drive businesses either out of the country or out of business.
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GypsyO5 months, 2 weeks ago
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This is so rediculous, it was the GOP that brought us to this point and people are willing to trust them once again ???? The economy can not be fixed microwave!! People gave GWB and his administration eight years b/4 they realized what was happening, seems rather ignorant to expect results in a little over 100 days.
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BB645 months, 2 weeks ago
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How is this all the fault of the GOP? Congress has been under DNC control for the last 2 almost 3 years. In that time, we say non-binding anti-war resolution after another with no real work being conducted. Then the DNC passed the largest spending bill in the history of the world. Supposedly it was a stimulus but I've never seen a national stimulus package that missed so many people and helped so few. If you're a part of Acorn, you're covered. If you're a tree hugger, you're covered. If you're a small business person trying to keep your doors open, bad news you're not covered. If you sell "energy" solutions that actually require more energy to run than you produce you're covered. If you're an evil coal plant that is doing fine, bad news, you're going to be taxed to death.
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pc255 months, 2 weeks ago
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of course it was.........it was the GOP who quadrupled the deficit in 100 days.....in case your memory needs to be refreshed Obama was elected because he had the fresh ideas on the economy didn't he. fast forward 7 months from election day and 120 days into his administration after all the hype is replaced by the sobering reality of his policies and the people t not surprisingly DO NOT LIKE HIS IDEAS......blame this on no one other than THE CLOWN PRINCE OF BEL AIR
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vader825 months, 2 weeks ago
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I don't believe either party has properly stepped up to the plate regarding the economy. Our previous administration pushed TARP and auto bailouts, now we are getting much of the same on a larger scale. The porkulus bill was a sham, for one thing the road repair work should already be in the coffers from fuel taxes. We have government trying to force its way into the private sector, We are running deficits that are unheard of, and for what? Our forefathers are certainley rolling in their graves after what we have let our country come to.
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BB645 months, 2 weeks ago
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Actually that's not entirely true. Paul Ryan from Wisconsin put together a rather comprehensive plan but the media never covered it. It did call for some government help but in the form of tax breaks for businesses to expand US production and staffs. Improvements for employee benefits were also a deduction. But again, because this isn't covered in the daily DNC talking points, no one covered Ryan's option. Who knows. Perhaps you won't hear about stuff like this until the Hollywood media is forced to cut back and reduce like you and I. They're the only ones getting the tax breaks anyway.
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BB645 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Some major Republican"??? He or she is such a major Republican you can't name them? Yea right.
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I don't think the next few years will go well for you. The American voters wanted a change for the better. What we're seeing is a sharp turn towards Marxism. Rather than a car in every garage and a chicken in every pot, we're seeing a future of soup lines, mass transit and a general reduction in freedoms. Look at the media. Come out as a conservative and unless you're on talk radio, you're never heard from again.
Right now we're seeing unemployment reaching the 10% before the close of this month, we're seeing foreign investment leaving. The Chinese even stopped buying the Obama Bonds. So how long do you think things will fall before the public lays the blame solely at the feet of the Democrats. They've had Congress for almost 3 years and now the White House. All we're seeing is government expanding on the backs of our children and their children. If the US survives, we may be seeing the end of the liberal children of the 60's and 70's. The grown ups will be back in charge in 2010.
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tehranchik5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Here's the latest gallup from this morning. Just in case the link doesn't work - it was submitted TimALoftis.
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http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/06/09/gallup-p...
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