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Posted By Radiofreeeuropa 6 months, 1 week ago in NewsTEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Seven people were killed after they reportedly attacked a military post in central Tehran, state television said Tuesday.
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 1 week ago
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ALERT!: Hats off to the truly incredible people of Iran - standing up to the thugs who are trying to steal their election. Dozens-to-hundreds of tweets per minute are coming in from Tehran here: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23iranelection
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 1 week ago
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSECAvBTanQ
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Video of rioting. Something of a touching ending.-
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 1 week ago
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Just a guess, but the mullahs and such may have their fingers in air...opting ultimately to side with the majority. Will that co opt any real reform? If the government puts down the uprising with force, they lose. If they allow it they lose. There is no real way to win and maintain any credibility.
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lfergie8126 months, 1 week ago
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It looked to me like a peaceful protest with the police as the aggressors. I saw one video on one of the network channels where the police were beating up one protester and suddenly took off running when a large group of protesters came to his aid.
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Jeboba6 months, 1 week ago
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The GOP has operated a border-line theocratic ideology since Reagan got in bed with the moral majority. Thank GOD the American people finally figured this out last year. It's just a shame the American people didn't have the courage to demonstrate like the Iranis after the stolen elections in 2000 and 2004!
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Natureboy6 months, 1 week ago
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Funny that you should mention Reagan. Mousavi became prime minister the same year that Reagan took office, and was the prime minister throughout the Iran-Contra years. Manuchehr Ghorbanifar, the Iranian arms dealer who brokered the Iran-Contra deal, was a bosom-buddy of Mousavi's.
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Maybe, just maybe, Mousavi lost not because of massive vote fraud but simply because the Iranians had him made as a sock-puppet for US interests. D'ya think?-
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 1 week ago
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I'd say it was possible, except that the results reek of manipulation by any standard.
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If they are legit, there should be no opposition to simply redoing the election, considering the legitimacy of the regime looks bad either way now.-
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 1 week ago
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I think 2000 should have been redone.
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A lot of people do.
Supposedly our laws allow the supreme court to appoint the winner ...I am not a law scholar so I am not disputing that. If it's the case, I am for the law being changed.
Dissent is not a bad thing.
There would be no USA if our founders had been good British colonists.
I believe we have inherited a very good apparatus to effect government here without violence, the last resort of a gambling man.
Iran's "violence" is perpetrated by it's government, the protesters are mostly recipients. Though the vast majority of people no matter how pacifist in nature, have a breaking point. As for me personally, I worked hard to get that last admn. out of there. I proudly volunteered for president Obama and funded his campaign as resources allowed.
I write my representatives and Senators regularly. That's how I deal with it.-
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Natureboy6 months, 1 week ago
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"I think 2000 should have been redone.
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A lot of people do."
And yet it didn't happen. But you expect it to happen in Iran if things are on the up-and-up.
Why would we expect Iran to operate at a higher level of democracy than we ourselves do? Isn't that somewhat of a double-standard?
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smithichie6 months, 1 week ago
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Like we did in 2000 and 2004?
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To compare the US election in 2000 to the curent Iranian election, Gore would have had to receive less than 10% of the vote in EVERY state, instead of the close race we saw. Iran's problems aren't limited to one provence alone, they seem to be nationwide.
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Natureboy6 months, 1 week ago
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So, a question for the liberals on the thread who are cheerleading for all of this-
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Did you also believe that the 2000 US Presidential election was "stolen?"
If so, why didn't you grab a gun and try to take out a police station or a US military installation? Certainly you approve of Moussavi's supporters doing this. Do you regret not assaulting the police and military in 2000, and will you make a firm committment to do so next time you claim a US election has been "stolen?"
Sauce for the goose, and all that.-
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 1 week ago
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I stand with the Iranian people for their right to an honest election, as I also stood with the American people. I will never support the side of any totalitarian or theocratic regime. The 1st Bush term was an appointment...legal? I'm not convinced. Ethical? No. But I'm not sure enough of the legal aspect to commit violence which is the very last resort, not the first. I don't doubt we would be a much better nation without having had the Cheney terms, But I am also sure that the extreme evidence of the results of that admn. have forced people to re evaluate what these parties really stand for. For that I thank the neocon faction of the party sort of.
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That as long as the memory of the Bush presidency remains in the synopses of the american consciousness there will be very little credibility given to anything the republican party has to offer unless they completely reject those responsible, sincerely apologize for being wrong and leading the nation down the primrose path of unsustainable idiocy, and offer some real solutions to the ills they created.-
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Natureboy6 months, 1 week ago
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"I stand with the Iranian people for their right to an honest election, as I also stood with the American people. I will never support the side of any totalitarian or theocratic regime"
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Interesting.
So what do you do when the Iranians honestly elect a theocratic government?
And why do you support Iranian violence in the wake of what you believe is a fixed election, when you would not do the same yourself in what you believe was a fixed election right here in the USA? Are you bolder in the defense of democracy abroad than you are of democracy at home? -
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 1 week ago
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Though I must say, this thread was one on which I thought we'd all agree. With no need to toss divisive fire bombs. I can't really imagine you support the current regime.
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The reasons may be different, as to why not, but I can't imagine you support Ahmadinejad. If indeed you agree with Ayatollah (the real power) that the election is legit I suggest a look at this-
http://tehranbureau.com/2009/06/13/faulty-election...
These statistics are so infinitely unlikely as to be be impossible.-
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 1 week ago
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"So what do you do when the Iranians honestly elect a theocratic government?"
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Nothing.
Simply continue to educate people about the danger of following baseless ideologies.
"Are you bolder in the defense of democracy abroad than you are of democracy at home?"
As much as I detested Bushes policies, I have a great deal of respect for the way our government was set up...
Violence was not the solution. Nor is it in Iran, Protests turned violent when violence was used against protesters. I don't think the protests are violent in nature.
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Natureboy6 months, 1 week ago
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"The reasons may be different, as to why not, but I can't imagine you support Ahmadinejad."
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What I DON'T support is the idea that as an American it matters one whit whether I support Ahmadinejad or not. This is the Iranians' election. The best thing we can do is butt out. Had we done so in 1953 the region would be a far different place.
What I also don't support is the spectacle of the American left jumping on the bandwagon to support one side over another in this matter. Besides being inappropriate, it is counter-productive - If you really do support Moussavi, then you should know that the best way to torpedo him is to make him look like the darling of the US (which he is.)
And what I REALLY REALLY don't support is Americans clamoring for revolution in Iran when they don't have the heart or the balls to make it happen in their own back yards.-
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Ratskii6 months, 1 week ago
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What the Iranians don't need is the American government jumping into their business. What they do need is to know that world opinion (including that of individual Americans) is on their side.
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Our inability to stage a non-violent revolution here has nothing to do with our support of the Iranian demonstrators. They are in the right and are offering us a good example -- so please get off you high horse. -
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 1 week ago
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I have no particular support for any candidate, as I mentioned the power is not in the hands of the president in that country anyway, but I see no harm in raising my voice in solidarity with the Iranian people and their plea for a fair election. I agree Iran's internal politics are strictly Iran's business. The U.S, has no role. I have known enough Iranian nationals to understand their leaders are about as representative of their nature as Bush was of the typical US resident....not so much.
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smithichie6 months, 1 week ago
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Did you also believe that the 2000 US Presidential election was "stolen?"
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Nope.
If Bush had won 90% of the electoral vote nationwide, yes, I would have thought the election stolen. As it was, I believe FL could have gone either way and Bush wanted it more while Gore dropped the ball. When SCOTUS made it's ruling, Bush was my President no matter how much I didn't like the outcome.
You know some folks say the 2008 election was stolen, since some have the crazy belief that Obama isn't an American. Are you suggesting those folks should rise up? -
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Ratskii6 months, 1 week ago
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NB, I hate to tell you this, but you're arguing like a republican.
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Our failure to rise up in 2000 has nothing to do with this issue. Besides which, the Iranian people aren't picking up guns and attacking police stations. They are very sensibly staging mass demonstrations and engaging in a general strike. Much better tactics, if you ask me.-
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Natureboy6 months, 1 week ago
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"Besides which, the Iranian people aren't picking up guns and attacking police stations."
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This story is about an alleged attack by the demonstrators (who by the way are only a subset of the Iranian People) on a military post.
And yes, the failure of Americans to rise up in 2000 has plenty to do with this issue. Cheerleading for Iranians to rise up against their government over a disputed election when you lacked the gumption to do the same yourself under far more egregious circumstances is hypocritical. It strongly suggests that you are blind to your own corruption.-
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 1 week ago
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I understand your point, but A. I have far more faith in the US constitution than in the Iranian system personally. B. I did and continue to do what I can to effect change in the US via legal peaceful means. C.Considering the size of the uprising in Iran there isn't a great deal of violence on the part of the protesters.
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Poulenc6 months, 1 week ago
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Alas, I fear that the people's will is the last thing the mullahs are concerned with.
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Or, rather, they are to the degree that they must placate/mollify to prevent protracted interruption of their planned outcome.
Look for token "investigations" of the voting, all circumscribed by the ultimate objective of keeping theocratic rulers ruling. -
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 1 week ago
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ALERT!
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http://ow.ly/epvr
Cell phone pix coming out of Iran.
Still many reports of web shutdowns and cell service blackouts yet much is still getting out.
Though I just got a message from a student I know in Tehran saying "They're cutting off all connections now, Google Talk, Yahoo Messenger, Twitter". -
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 1 week ago
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The revolution may not be televised. But it seems to be web-casted and twittered to some degree.
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