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Posted By TimALoftis 6 months ago in News(CNN) -- Two Pennsylvania teens will serve time in a county jail for participating in a brawl that left a Mexican immigrant dead last July.
Brandon Piekarsky, 17, was sentenced to 6 to 23 months, and Derrick Donchak, 19, received 7 to 23 months for their roles in the beating death of 25-year-old Luis Ramirez.
Judge William Baldwin ordered the two to report to Schuylkill County jail on July 19 to begin serving their sentences.
An all-white jury convicted the two former high school football players of misdemeanor simple assault at trial last month and acquitted them of felony counts, including aggravated assault, ethnic intimidation and hindering apprehension -- charges that carried lengthier sentences.
In fashioning his sentence, Baldwin acknowledged the severity of the attack, which left Ramirez on life support for two days before he died, but said he could pass a sentence only in accordance with the jury's verdict.
"This wasn't any fight, this was a group of young athletes ganging up on one person. That's not a street fight," Baldwin said, referring to the defense team's characterization of the confrontation as a "street fight."
"This wasn't any fight, this was a group of young athletes ganging up on one person. That's not a street fight," Baldwin said, referring to the defense team's characterization of the confrontation as a "street fight."
"You picked out a guy who wasn't one of you and beat the pulp out of him," Baldwin said.
After the verdict, Gov. Ed Rendell sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder recommending that the Department of Justice pursue civil rights charges.
"The evidence suggests that Mr. Ramirez was targeted, beaten and killed because he was Mexican," Rendell said. "Such lawlessness and violence hurts not only the victim of the attack but also our towns and communities that are torn apart by such bigotry and intolerance."
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Goppy6 months ago
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Could this be more evidence that Right Wing Media is 'egging' on violence ... as it 'egged on' the murder of Dr. Tiller?
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Bill O'Reilly focused his outrage on Dr. Tiller 27 times - usually referring to him as a 'baby-killer'.
I don't get the Right's outrage towards immigrants.
The ADORE Rupert Murdoch ... he's an Australian. The only reason he became an American citizen was to buy up media in our country.
The Modern Right ALSO adores Sun Myung Moon - founder of The Washington Times. This lunatic is a Korean ... who came to this country because his own people were offended by his claim to be the Son of God.
You can read about The Modern Republican's love for this lunatic here: http://www.gorenfeld.net/book/
So ... while the right rants about 'feriners' ... they hang on every word proffered by an Australian and a Korean.
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There can be only one explanation for this behavior ... Moral Vacancy.
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b-happy6 months ago
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Goppy you are a complete moron. To sit there and type things like "Could this be more evidence that Right Wing Media is 'egging' on violence ... as it 'egged on' the murder of Dr. Tiller?" is just completely ignorant and naive.
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How do we have people in this country like Goopy who mumble about hate speech from the right and then try to peg every little incident of violence on the right. That is pure and simple hate against the right that you say you oppose,
You truly are lower than a bird dropping Goopy. I never heard someone try and incite so much hate against a group, this group being Republicans. Why don't you do us all a favor and gargle some Draino.
BTW, like usual you spin the immigration debate. It's about ILLEGAL immigration dumb a$$. When will your little pee size brain figure out the word "ILLEGAL". Do you know why they call them ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? Take a course on it. Do a search on it and learn something and stop being a naive prick!-
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Goppy6 months ago
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LOL ... spoken as the righteous example of the Utter Lack of Morals on the right.
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Murder is okay ... if it's done to an ILLEGAL immigrant.
The rest of your post ... littered as it is with insults and encouragement of suicide ... is the best argument I've ever given regarding the appalling level of hate that drives the right.
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b-happy ... I guess I should thank you for helping me prove my point ... but I think I can manage on my own. Your putrid words demean everything they touch ... as you probably demean everything around you. ...
... So please ... as much as I appreciate the graphic example of what I'm talking about ... chill.
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Thelma806 months ago
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Did i miss something?? In this article it does not say that he was an Illigal immigran, it just says, he was a Mexican Immigrant--but although you believe muder is justified because he was Mexican illigal or not, he was just an immigrant. Are you not some type of immigrant in this country??
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I beleive in your wounderful mind that justifies murder!
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djn3nunez36 months ago
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Dr. Tiller was a baby killer. I am not justifind his murder, but fact is the man killed babies.
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Some were women who faced a major threat to their life or health if they were to continue with what had been a wanted pregnancy. Or their wanted baby was diagnosed with a major anomaly incompatible with survival for more than a few days or years and only then, a life of suffering and incredible pain.
Reducing the service Dr. Tiller performed to the term "Baby Killer" is mendacious at best. It is the first step in demonising the man. Once demonised as a Baby Killer or Murderer of innocent Babies, it's just one step away from rationalization of a real murder by some of the more easily influenced loonies among the crowd.
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Goppy6 months ago
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Please show me where I attribute party affiliation.
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Or is this more 'convenient re-interpretation' to suit your rigid thought processes?
Let's be clear, I'm not attacking your Republicans, Albmore. I'm discussing that "Hate-Speak" in Right Wing media has consequences.
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Goppy6 months ago
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Good story, Tim Loftus ... I'd like to spend more time ... but I've got Albmore commenting all over my Profile page. It's been consuming a lot of my time lately.
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You know Albmore ... the one who claims to be an independent ... but who continually advocates for policies that are to the right of Modern Republican Ideology.
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Albmore6 months ago
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dunkirk6 months ago
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Albmore6 months ago
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Well lets put it this way making comments about someone who didn#t comment or prop a story seems like some one is trying to drag you down without you knowing it. Thats ok I expect it from the extreme left. I just think its very hypocritical since they were suppose to be the party of change.
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Goppy6 months ago
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What ... I'm not allowed to mention what I'm doing elsewhere?
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Haven't you ever heard of Social Networking ... Twitter ... ?
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Look, I think I know what this is all about. You're upset that I didn't join your FOURTH Party Group.
Hey, I'm sorry ... but a group of individuals who are more insanely right wing than the current right wing does not interest me.
I'm a CENTRIST.
That's why I voted for Obama.
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Albmore6 months ago
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Goppy I do not care if you joined my group or not. Actually I offered the invite to you with the request that instead of bashing, you joined us to find solutions to our nations problems.
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I bet anyone here can look up your comments and 95% of them on every subject they will find you bashing the reps. You bring nothing positive to a story or OUR nation.
You have your leftist views. We all know that and like I said the 4th party is independent. Your views are welcomed as much as any other Americans. I have also stated on OUR group page that the group was not formed to bash the right or left , BUT to take the power away from BOTH and give it back to the people.-
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dunkirk6 months ago
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"You bring nothing positive to a story or OUR nation."
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Seems when the mess OUR natiopn is dealing with is the result of policies adopted by REPUBLICANS after being told those policies are unsustainable and not good for the long haul its important to remember WHO contributed to it. Altho IM waiting to see if you make the smae comments to Lubs, Woflie and Tangy.
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Albmore6 months ago
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I will not say I consider you a dumb person, but one that is really gone extreme. If only half the effort you used bashing the right would be used for presenting something positive for our nation I am sure we would not have so much tention between us.
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Albmore6 months ago
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Also If it seems to you I attack the left it is for 2 reasons. 1. They are in power now. They are making the decissions and I do not agree with most of them. 2. There are to many following Obama with closed eyes. I was neg. on a different story about healthcare because I stated before I or anyone should comment, we should know exactly what Obama plans and how will he fund it. To many on the left these facts are unimportant.
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Charlson6 months ago
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"After the verdict, Gov. Ed Rendell sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder recommending that the Department of Justice pursue civil rights charges."
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Maybe there will be some REAL justice if the feds charge them with depriving the victim his civil rights by beating him and causing death. These jerks should get many years of prison instead of a few months. -
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bluetexasvalley6 months ago
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"Citing FBI statistics, Limon said that hate crimes against Latinos have risen 40 percent in the last five years and called on Congress to strengthen hate crime laws."
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I expect at least part of the problem for the white boys was that the girlfriend was white. And I hardly think she was a child. She has two children. -
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CassieK6 months ago
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If you are drinking and someone runs a red light speeding away from cops and slams into your car, You get a DUI... Because the law says that that guy that was speeding and ran the red light would never have hit you if you werent driving there. You should have known better to drink and drive. If that ILLEGAL immagrant wasnt here he would never have died. Dont get me wrong they should pay for what they did but still he should have never been here.
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Thelma806 months ago
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Check out your roots!
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But illegal or not that is not dying that is premeditated murder, from kids. What are we teaching our communities, by justifying murders for anybody leagal or not??
This article does not say wether he wa illegal or not, he could have been legal?? Does this still justify being kicked to death??
I surely don't think so.
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