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    Endoscopy5 months, 3 weeks ago

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    I love it. He was trying to refute the statistics but he really backed them up. I love the 200% of poverty line. That is really stretching it. He brings in kids but then admits the facts about the under 30. He did not really change any statistic in a meaningful way but weasel word around it trying to cast aspersions on it. He changed the figures to leave out the uninsured that qualify for government programs but for some reason never apply. Probably get better care without it. Medicare and Medicaid both ration health care by making payments that do not really pat the health care provider an adequate payment. Therefore they have to find ways to up the money by doing things that are not needed, etc. or else not take them. Medicaid and schools are 60% of the cost to the state governments. It is becoming as black hole for the government and what will happen if everybody is put on this nutty program. Do like Canada and Britain? ration it to the extant that many people die waiting for the necessary care? That is a sad fact about socialized medicine that the liberals never admit to

    EVERY ONE IN THIS COUNTRY HAS HEALTH CARE BUT THE LIBERALS WILL NEVER ADMIT IT.

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      sprzats5 months, 3 weeks ago

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      EVERY ONE IN THIS COUNTRY HAS HEALTH CARE BUT THE LIBERALS WILL NEVER ADMIT IT.
      Lets say that your statement is correct...Have you ever been screwed over by an insurance company ? I have
      Can you afford to pay your insurace premiums without feeling a pretty good dent in your weekly pay ? My premiums rise every year and the co-pays are also going up.
      If I need the ER I automatically pay $100.00
      Have you ever tried to get health insurance when you have a pre existing condition ?
      Most people cannot afford the premiums under those circumstances. So what do they do ?
      Have you ever had to pay out three or four hundred a month for heart medication? That's with insurance.
      I know too many people that are going without medication because they cannot afford it. I have insurance and I'm still struggling to pay my medical bills. The premiums keep going up but the coverage is getting to be less and less. These insurance companies have the politicians in their pocket. They are making billions every year in profits. If this country goes to socialized medicine, they lose a lot of money. They put out the propoganda against socializing the health care because they know what they stand to lose. No health care system is perfect but I don't see where soializing it would make it any worse. The last time I went to an ER I waited over five hours to be seen. The last time I needed to see a specialist it took two and a half months to be seen.
      As far as our taxes subsudizing it...let our government cut out the freaking waste and get the hell out of the middle east. Let the government get serious about the illegals. There are ways of subsidizing it and controlling it.
      Why are the ER's so crowded ? People without coverage don't go to doctor's..they can't afford to. They go to the hospital because they can get free care. Believe it or not there are many people in this country that cannot afford health insurance.

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        fsev415 months, 3 weeks ago

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        Endo's got his insurance. To hell with everyone else.

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        cleare5 months, 3 weeks ago

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        i can tell you from my own experience that i spent the better part of my life without access to health insurance, and it devestated my family. couldn't afford it, pre-existing conditions, etceteras.

        half of my time in the workforce i had no health insurance, yet i worked full time.

        many doctors won't even see cash patients anymore.

        i've known people who died for lack of coverage or inadequete coverage, or from denied claims.

        most everyone may have access to emergency care, but that is not "health care".

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          mesodude5 months, 3 weeks ago

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          "EVERY ONE IN THIS COUNTRY HAS HEALTH CARE BUT THE LIBERALS WILL NEVER ADMIT IT."

          --By your extremely loose definition, you're absolutely right, Endo. Now that I think about it, everyone in the US has "shelter" also. ;-P

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