Obama confirms that the United States will not be “meddling” in Iran’s Contested Election »
Posted By WikiMap 4 months, 3 weeks ago in NewsAt a press conference on Tuesday, President Barack Obama expressed his "deep concerns" for Iran's struggles resulting from its contested election which allowed Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to remain in power. Obama confirmed his belief of a dispute in balloting but left the comments about investigating the election controversy to Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah ali Khamenei.
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myfairlady4 months, 3 weeks ago
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Thinker224 months, 3 weeks ago
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No matter what the US will do there will be some yelling that the US WAS 'meddling' in the issue for the simple reason the US is only military superpower on the planet and it's very convenient to blame the US and its allies for everything.
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A pretty convincing example is the popular accusation of the US for Iranian support of Hezbollah, Hamas and other terrorist organizations because the US allegedly helped the Iranian Shah to get the power in Iran 56 years ago... despite the fact that the Shah himself as well as ALL his aids and supporters were IRANIANS.
Neither the US nor any other state can ignore the existence of other countries for as long as these countries share the same planet Earth. Anything BUT ignoring the existence of other states can be seen as 'meddling' in their issues. -
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UnusualSuspect4 months, 3 weeks ago
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And why should we "meddle"?
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The US loves to remind the world that we promote democracy, so when a country like Iran has elections, we should let them let solve it themselves.
We're not the policeman of the world, as much as we'd like to think we are...
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Commodore14 months, 3 weeks ago
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I don't agree w/Obama bin Laden on much but this time I must. If a democratic revolution occurs in Iran w/no outside interference then it will be truly genuine and respected. And if Iran wants our guidance or input or any assistance at all then they can ask. I believe if the politicians had been doing this all along then the number of our problems would have been considerably less. If we fix our internal problems first then we can help the rest of the world. If they want it.
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NoWayMan4 months, 3 weeks ago
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glad that you agree with Obama, but you do know that Iran has been holding democratic elections for some time now, right? so, there won't be any "democratic revolution" happening in iran soon. it already happened.
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this is about making those democratic elections legit, and we're ones to talk since we have some problems in that area as well, with electronic voting machines that for some unknown reason aren't able to create a paper trail.
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Charlson4 months, 3 weeks ago
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America is not the police of the world nor are we arbitrators of democracy. Regardless the outcome of Iran's election, it's their country and their system of government. The Republicans, as usual, have put all their rotten eggs in one basket. The basket of giving overt support to the opposition which would insure that the attention would turn away from Iran's internal problems and focus on the "Great Satan" once again.
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BB644 months, 3 weeks ago
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We are not supposed to be the world police force but we've taken that roll on after the fall of the British and French Empires. When they lost their colonies, they didn't need the large armies and navies to maintain control. That's where we came in. Large military, freedom loving nation that we are, we police the world.
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As for Iran, they are a pretty good size threat in that region. If we would have to take them out we have the pinned from three sides. We're boosting troops in Afghanistan and have around 145K in Iraq. With our Navy holding the Gulf, it would be a rather short one sided fight. Iran would be similar to Iraq but without the arms being smuggled in from a neighbor.
I think we should help the protesters in any way short of actual invasion.
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slate4 months, 3 weeks ago
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We shouldn't interfere in this, but should watch and see what happens. The educated young will eventually enact change for the better, though it most likely will turn bloody.
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If indeed it does turn very bloody, should we just sit by and watch or then help?-
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Tangent0014 months, 3 weeks ago
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"If indeed it does turn very bloody, should we just sit by and watch or then help?"
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That is the question, isn't it. Do we take part in a civil war? How would that affect the legitimacy of whatever government emerges? What would be the 'price' for US assistance?
Whatever aid occurs, I think it should be under the auspices of the UN. Yes, I know the UN has problems, but if the US intervenes unilaterally, it will smack of advancing American hegemony in the region and ultimately further polarize the Middle East.
I think a dialog with Iranians living in the US and allied countries would be a good start. Let's find out how the opposition movement would like to world to help. I'm pretty sure the last thing Iranians want is another Iraq-style 'nation-building' exercise. I'm pretty sure that's the last thing Americans want as well.
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Daylight4 months, 3 weeks ago
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Ali Khamainy has said the Western Zionist world wanted the people in Iran to vote in a very lower numbers, so that they could meddle in the affairs of Iran but the turn out was 40 millions and the Zionists were shocked and they wanted to create some kind of suspicion in the minds of the Iranian people that the election was rigged but even the 5 year old will know it is not easy to manipulate 11 million votes in favor of the incumbent president. Media campaign to attack Iran is not a new thing the Zionists are doing it all along and they are paranoid, they want a war with Iran but the Americans were not interested, so the Zionist use different tactics to create a kind of suspicion that the Iranian government is a cheat and the people are looking for freedom. But the Iranian people don't give a damn about the corrupt Western democracy but all they are looking for is different people whom they consider to be their better choice of candidates that they will serve them better. The Western media have been saying for years that the Iranians are looking for change of regime but its not true but the media make people to believe that Iran is in real problem so people are angry at their government. This is ridiculous, this is the same media mislead the American people of Iraq WMD and finally America invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and got itself bankrupted in the name of the chosen people who are illegally occupying the land of the Palestinians. Zionist will never learn, they are a failure and they are failing the American regime as well, by the time the Americans realize this, it will be too late. If America is looking for respect and leadership in the world, it should live by example and reign in Israel to comply United Nation resolutions and treaties and also international laws but it is the other way around. A so called supper power is controlled and manipulated by the Zionist thugs who are occupying the land of the Palestinians for the last 60 years and continuing the settlements and destruction of Palestinian homes.
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BB644 months, 3 weeks ago
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Wow, daylight I haven't seen you here recently. I was hoping Massod got you already....
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The elections were a fraud. Like most Islamic run programs claiming to be fair and balanced, it's a load. There is no such thing as a free honest election when your side is in power.
There were chemical, biological and special operations weapons found in Iraq. He used them against Iran and the Kurds. I still suspect there may have been nuclear items there. Perhaps not a full nuclear bomb but certainly the makings of a dirty bomb. Perhaps you could answer this. What did Mossad destroy last summer in Syria. It was clearly a "hot" item, the area is still closed. Did this come from Iraq, Iran or North Korea? Was this the reason Saddam's family is under the protection of the Syrian secret police? Was the the payment for their protection?
As to never learn, wouldn't that be the ignorance Muslims? For over 60 years you've been fighting Israel and all you seem to do is make good cannon fodder. You suck as fighter pilots, tank commanders and even your infantry stinks. How can you suck at infantry work? The only type of training you excel at are car bombers attacking woman and children. Well that's not true, they have to be unarmed woman and children.
Bust seriously, until you start loving your children more than you love killing Jews, you're never going to live up to the civilizations that came before you. The middle east was a jewel of civilization. What the hell happened to you guys?
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GWHayduke4 months, 3 weeks ago
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I find it odd, that when considering countries other than our own, we often take diametrically opposite points of view toward the 'change' or lack thereof in those countries than we do our own.
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You hear 'conservatives' claiming that these radical countries who have been ruled by some form of strict religious governance, need to 'progress' or 'change' to become more modern or Westernized.
Then, on the other hand, we have 'liberals' claiming that meddling in the affairs of countries / governments that have been in existence for centuries longer than our republican democracy should be forbidden for, well, the sake of conservation.
Not that I disagree with either point of view, nor do believe that these are absolutes, I just think it is interesting that groups could want one thing for their home country and the exact opposite for foreign countries.
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lloydm654 months, 3 weeks ago
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Charlson,your absolutely right,but we are still the worlds last best hope.I don,t expect the president to takes sides in Iran.I hope the people of this still great America don't succumb to the same notion,of you,mesodude,and too many people on propeller. Instead we should hope,and pray for an overthrow of the regime of Iran.
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Thinker224 months, 3 weeks ago
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"He" (whoever "he" is) did and will be 'meddling' for as long as "he" is alive because "his" very existence means 'meddling' to those complaining about it... just as the very existence of Israel means a lot of bad things to "daylight" and other Jew-haters.
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Natureboy4 months, 3 weeks ago
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"So he will not be meddling - does that mean that he has been meddling?"
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The US has been meddling, that is sure. Congress budgeted $75 million in 2008 to finance "regime change" in Iran. $20 million plus was spent on propaganda efforts through VOA etc and the rest channeled to parties within Iran. Our government will not say to whom. But have you seen all of the signs held by Mousavi supporters, professionally printed, color coordinated, and IN ENGLISH? That's not what a grassroots uprising looks like, but that is what a well-financed astroturf movement looks like.
So maybe Obama was semantically correct in saying we WILL not interfere, because that is not the same as saying that we have not ALREADY interfered.
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automan9094 months, 3 weeks ago
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He is already meddling by not giving any support for these people that only want a fair election and to be free.
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The protester's signs are in English.
They are asking for some sort of support.
Even just verbal support.
Obama has no problem supporting terrorists and America haters like Ayres, Wright, Hammas, Chavez, and Castro.
To say nothing says everything.
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crespi4 months, 3 weeks ago
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Roboheart666 and all you other Neocons-
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You ultra-Conservatives have been DEAD wrong about Middle East actions all along the line.
First you (Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld etc.) attack the Taliban AND AlQaida as one entity in Afghanistan. AlQaida merely flees to Pakistan. Then you shoved the Iraq "war" down our throats saying we would be "greeted as liberators" when that was not only not true, but resulted in more violence and deaths that had even occurred under HUSSEIN!. Then THIS allowed the Taliban to reclaim most of Afghanistan.
Meanwhile Rush Limbaugh and John McCain are singing "Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran" and FoxNews is openly promoting the PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR BOMBING of innocent Iranian women and children for years.
Why, to start World War Three like Palin and the Armageddonists pray for? Or to rip off the American people and government with more no-bid contracts to international arms dealers who sell to both sides? Is GREED your motivation?
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supermat14 months, 3 weeks ago
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During our war of liberation from tyranny,the revolutionary war, we had outside help. They waited until they thought we could pull it off, but the French came to our aid with materials and finally with their Army and Navy. Geesh, sure am glad they meddled in our affairs.
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The election in Iran was neither fair nor democratic. That's the problem.-
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Natureboy4 months, 3 weeks ago
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"The election in Iran was neither fair nor democratic."
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Those who say so have nothing real to point at except the speed of the vote count, which was arguably due to Iran's computerized vote-counting system.
Ahmadinejad won by roughly the margin that indepenent polls predicted, and by roughly the same margin he won by in 2005.
Want to see fixed elections? Revisit the shenanigans in the USA in 2000 and 2004. Who came to our aid then? And where was your outrage? -
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ranrod4 months, 3 weeks ago
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skyynyte...Every time the US does something to another country. We create another monster. We have someone who can think in office. This mistake won't be made, intentionally, for the next 3 years at least.....your asswipe in chief is the monster Yea he can think ,of ways to grab more power .He siezes control of private businesses, he's increased the national debt more in 4 months than Bush did in 8 years,he's illegally fired IG for investgating his cronie going against law he himself voted for, his attempt to sieze healthcare at an additional cost of trillions his plan would cost $65,000 for each person previously uninsured added to the system . All you Obama lovers can just kiss my ass !
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ranrod4 months, 3 weeks ago
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skyynyte...Every time the US does something to another country. We create another monster. We have someone who can think in office. This mistake won't be made, intentionally, for the next 3 years at least.....your asswipe in chief is the monster Yea he can think ,of ways to grab more power .He siezes control of private businesses, he's increased the national debt more in 4 months than Bush did in 8 years,he's illegally fired IG for investgating his cronie going against law he himself voted for, his attempt to sieze healthcare at an additional cost of trillions his plan would cost $65,000 for each person previously uninsured added to the system . All you Obama lovers can just kiss my ass !
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supermat14 months, 3 weeks ago
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Hey natureboy! There is already evidence of voter fraud in Iran. Independent sources in Iran say that there are areas where there are far too many vote than there are voters.
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To compare our election issues, that were settled in court, with Irans shows your extreme contempt for the country you live in. Many independent news sources, many left leaning, sponsered recounts and analysis of the Florida recount all came to the same conclusion. Bush won. The 2004 results don't even rate a comment. No one but a partisan freak disputes the outcome. -
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GehlLady4 months, 3 weeks ago
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I have to agree with the Presidents' public stance, and if that is all there is to our involvement I'd rather see him err on the side of caution, if at all. I do wonder if we have people on the inside, undercover, so to speak.......
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calitennflo4 months, 3 weeks ago
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninth_Amendment_to_th...
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Now Oboma wants to read the constitution's 9th amendment...and in the month they used to celebrate the Constitution and men liken James Madison. -
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jerrywijaya4 months, 3 weeks ago
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Just want to say that you have a great article.. You have a big point..
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Icantwait4 months, 3 weeks ago
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My Fellow Americans: Remember Obama and Ahmadinejad are buds. Obama has no intention of interfering because he wants Ahmadinejad, his pal to be in Power. Do you think they're secret talks were about Michelles garden? Obama says he will not interfere in order to look good in the Obama Media Meddlers News Pages. The Pay For Hire Media will print this in bold type to give the American people the impression that Obama really wanted the opposition to win but won't interfere even though the opposition did not win. In Fact he did not want the Opposition to win he wanted Ahmadinejad to win. Got it?
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He is tricky, sitting on the stoop, thinking up new ways to completely Devastate the Poor, Frustrate the Rich, and Bankrupt the Middle Classes Economic Engine.
However, Obama is a Coward, just as Hitler was a Coward, Stalin was a Coward, Chavez is a Coward, Ahmadinejad is a Coward, and as is the list of Power Hungry Despots.
The Government Press will tell you he is a regular Dirty Harry after viewing him, Making His Day, by killing a helpless fly. Well, I guess he will hurt a fly. I'm sure Michelle got wind of that assassination and will make him sleep on the Couch, for a couple of nights, for embarrassing her family sharecroppers.
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politicalpost4 months, 3 weeks ago
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When President Obama spoke in Cairo his speech resonated to over one billion people mostly people of Muslim faith. The most important part of his speech with regard to Iran was an apology to Iran for overthrowing by us their legitimate leader Mosaddeq in 1953. The chain of events thereafter of installing dictator Phallavi Shah ( mind you -he had worse record than Saddam, when hundreds of thousands Iranians died under Savak ) and his overthrow by Ayatollah Khomeini with help of revolutionary people like the Ahmadinajad and Mousavi, has led to current to theocratic form of government. So, Presiident Obama was very courageous and absolutely right to apolozise to them for causing havoc to their country since 1953. The protest by Iranian people after this elections is not about which candidate won but more about freedom from theocratic form of government. President Obama has shown a very sound judgement by not interfering into Iranian affairs that Neocon spin machine want him to do. President Obama also mentions that both the candidates have the same background. In fact, Mousavi was the Prime Minister under Ayatollah Khomeini who did US hostages exchange for arms under Reagan / Bush administration with Isreal as brokering the deal what was called Iran-Contra scandal- see Walsh Report. Again, that was Neocon meddling into Iran.
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Suddendly, Neocons are having sympathy for Iran and not long ago McCain sang a song Bomb..Bomb ..Bomb .. a Iran.
President Obama has shown an excellent judgement of not to interfere in their affairs and on contrast President Bush's neocon cabal did that in Iraq and what mess he has set. -
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cspezial4 months, 3 weeks ago
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A prime opportunity to destabilize one of the most hostile regimes in the world, and many posting on here want to do nothing? What should we do, then? Shall we wait for them to attack their neighbors? Shall we wait for them to attack us? My thought would be to use this opportunity to bring down their leadership, as well as bring hope to millions of Iranians. I would not send troops in directly, because they need to do this on their own, but I do feel that we should support them financially, provide weapons, etc. I know America is no longer a beacon of hope in the world, and we don't mean much to anyone anymore, especially to ourselves, but I think that it is a basic human responsibility to at least attempt to help other humans live free, nationality notwithstanding.
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Albmore4 months, 3 weeks ago
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The fatct of the matter is it lies in the hand of the people of Iran. They and the entire world knows how Iran is seen world wide with their current leadership. They know they may be or the be short of a war because of their nuke ambitions.
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Another instable country in this region is not 100% a good thing as we see what is happening in Iraq and Afgan..
Should we be on full alert? YES as I think we and the rest of the world is. We SHOULD show our support for change in Iran. I think one of the best ways is to show without doubt we will not except a nucleur Iran. I think also it is in the best interest of the neighboring countries in that area that they show their support for change.-
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Thinker224 months, 3 weeks ago
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> The fatct of the matter is it lies in the hand of the people of Iran.
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Very true.
> They and the entire world knows how Iran is seen world wide with their current leadership.
This is also true as is true that the vast majority of Iranians care about it much less than the majority of Americans care how the US is being seen by Sri Lanka.
> They know they may be or the be short of a war because of their nuke ambitions.
This is true as well as is true that they're Shia Muslims looking forward for the opportunity to die for the glory of Allah. You may recall thousands of Iranian children sent to clear mine fields with their bodies during Iran-Iraq war and the plastic Taiwan-made keys to Paradise each of them carried. You may also recall recent declaration of one Iranian leader saying that Iran would be willling to sacrifice half of its population in a war with Israel.
> We SHOULD show our support for change in Iran.
WHAT change? Do you believe that the other guy would be any different from Ahmadinejad?
> I think one of the best ways is to show without doubt we will not except a nucleur Iran.
Well, and what will "we" do in case Iran will test a nuclear device tomorrow announcing that it IS nuclear? What did "we" do with nuclear North Korea or uclear Pakistan?
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