The House Tri-Committee Health Reform Discussion Draft Summary »
Posted By bluetexasvalley 5 months, 1 week ago in Political NewsThis is a comprehensive summary of the health reform bill being proposed by three House committee chairmen. Looks pretty good from where I'm sitting, since single payer seems to be out of the question. Please look over and offer your thoughts.
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Beau78905 months, 1 week ago
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I like it!
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I'd prefer to get rid of private insurance altogether and go with a single payer system--that would spread the risk further and lower costs of covering each person who selects the public option, but since single payer is clearly not going to pass, this is a good alternative.
I particularly like the following passage from the draft:
Insurance companies will no longer be able to engage in discriminatory practices that enable them to refuse to sell or renew policies today due to an individual’s health status. In addition, they can no longer exclude coverage of treatments for pre?existing health conditions.
I certainly hope the protections for individuals in this draft don't get diluted as the bill makes its way through the legislative process.-
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Skeptic5 months, 1 week ago
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Not that many years ago (relatively speaking) when I was selling insurance, all the health insurance companies that I represented could not refuse to renew a policy as long as the premiums were paid. Neither could they raise your rates because there was a change in your circumstances, with the exception of increasing age and then the rates were the same for all clients in that class.
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The provision that all persons, regardless of health or preexisting conditions will ensure that all rates will increase to the point where no one will be able to afford to purchase a private plan. The other likely scenario is that insurance companies will no longer take on new clients.
Personally, I would like to see the government force life insurance companies to take as clients the terminally ill; that way, I can wait until the doctor tells me I have a few weeks left and my wife can take out a multimillion dollar policy on my life. Vice versa also works for me. Then I can give up playing the lottery and trust my family's future to Obama's health plan.
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Klarissa5 months, 1 week ago
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:Just as nationalism protects a people from outside forces, so socialism serves a people’s domestic needs.
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We want the people’s strength to be released within the nation, forging the people once more into a strong block.
The individual citizen must again have the sense that, even if he is finds himself in the simplest and lowest position, that his life and opportunities are assured. He should see that his own existence is rooted in the existence of his people, and that he must serve his people will all his strength.
If I want to ensure that each individual has the ability to survive, that each individual German can be active, can work, can support himself once more, I must also work to ensure that conditions beyond our borders make that possible.
Nationalism and Socialism
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Beau78905 months, 1 week ago
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Since you read the four-page summary of the draft of the bill before commenting, Klarissa, you certainly must realize that the draft preserves your ability to go with a private insurer, should you choose, right?
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Oh--but you've said before that you're on Medicare, right? That's a publicly funded, limited single payer plan--and one which costs you significantly less than private insurance costs those of us who are not on Medicare.
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Klarissa5 months, 1 week ago
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The three committees are:
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* The House Ways & Means Committee, chaired by Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-NY). The Health Subcommittee is chaired by Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA).
* The House Energy & Commerce Committee, chaired by Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA). The Health Subcommittee is chaired by Rep. Frank Pallone, Jr. (D-NJ).
* The House Committee on Education & Labor, chaired by Rep. George Miller (D-CA). The Health, Employment, Labor and Pensions Subcommittee is chaired by Rep. Robert Andrews (D-NJ).
[Where is the bi-partisanship?]
The document suggests this is a joint product of the three committees and/or their subcommittees. My sense, however, is that it is Speaker Pelosi who is driving the bus." -
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calitennflo5 months, 1 week ago
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The House Tri-Committee Health Reform Discussion Draft Summary »
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These words have a ring to them...yet I wonder if what they get done really effects us in the correct manner. " We the People", where did they loose this expression...you know the one for us...the Citizens. -
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fsev415 months, 1 week ago
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Gransater5 months, 1 week ago
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She is not....................................that of course would be a matter oif interpretation. Actually, the big question is whether or not she has more sense than Newt, and personally, I'd say she has that part covered in spades!
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Endoscopy5 months, 1 week ago
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You are telling a lie. Newt had about 2 charges a week from a couple of Democrats that were trying to keep him occupied with defending them. All of them went down the drain. The only thing they got him on was out of a mountain of paperwork he was forced to produce there was a mistake. I want to see you generate a pile of paperwork about 4 feet high about your whole life and work without a mistake.
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Endoscopy5 months, 1 week ago
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What is left out of this is the cost. NJo health care group endorses it. They are the ones that would have to live with what ever this creates. Liberals love to talk about the greed but they never try to control where the greed comes into play to drive up the costs. Frivolous lawsuits. Make the loser in a malpractice or other case like it pay all of the court and lawyer fees incurred and they will stop. If a lawyer on a contingency has to pay the other lawyers they will make very sure it is a very good case.
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Painesright5 months, 1 week ago
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Don't worry single-payer fans. Obama fully plans on running the private insurers out of business... he just can't do it quite yet. He has to lull the public into a false sense of hopenchange with the "you'll get to keep your doctor" line.
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But take heart! Here he is explaining in plain English how he plans to dupe Americans into a single payer system.
Be patient, your dream of government controlled socialized medicine is on the way.
This is a great 3 minute video featuring Obama, Sebelius, Jacob Hackers, Rep. Schakowsky and other liberal toadies... I mean heros. You will laugh, you will cry! An instant classic!!
Watch and cheer them on as they explain how they plan to take down the best medical care system in the world:
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Painesright5 months, 1 week ago
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And let's not forget the one where Gibbs successfully lists ALL of the countries where a single-payer system is actually working. Wow, this guy is GOOD!
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Natureboy5 months, 1 week ago
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This plan is pure dogsh!t, virtually a clone of NM Governor Bill Richardson's plan.
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The requirement that all "individuals" get coverage or get penalized is just a sop for the insurance industry. That, combined with the tiered "credits" (presumably tax credits) amounts to a diversion of public funds to the private insurers. The "public option" will get a wee bit of this, assuming that the option is not gutted or eliminated outright, but so what.
This bill is everything that the insurance companies want, tarted up and sold to the yokels as "reform." But it lacks virtually everything that a meaningful and comprehensive reform bill needs. No cost containment mechanisms in play either on premiums or on goods and services. No administrative simplification. It doesn't get the health insurance monkey off the employer's back, and offers no meaningful remedies for the capricious denials issued by private insurers.
It's a stinkbird. Kill it, and demand single payor.
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