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tehranchik6 months, 1 week ago

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The major difference between then and now is that the Shah was our man. Kissinger was right with his warning. We got more than we bargained for with the Islamic revolution. We lost total control of Iran. Not quite what we planned. This regime is in no way a friend to the US and other western powers.

That's what is different about today.

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  dissent6 months, 1 week ago
  
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  like i said... we put 'em in, we take 'em out. we build 'em up, we tear 'em down. and then we spin it all away.
  
  we may disagree, tc, as to the degree of our government's involvement in today's events but i'm sure we can agree that it would be unlikely that it is the non-active participant obama now totes it to be. especially in the light of having, over the last 2 years, invested substantial sums into this very purpose -- the destabilization of iran.
  
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  tehranchik6 months, 1 week ago
  
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  I don't completely disagree with you at all. I'm very well aware of the wickedness of our government. AND I won't say that we haven't tried to upset the balance of power in Iran. I was there in '79. There was nothing but talk of the americans bringing down the shah. There is a difference this time. We don't have the insiders we once had. We simply haven't had the same advantage of '79.
  
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    dissent6 months, 1 week ago
    
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    the opportunities may not be the same but i don't think we can say they are not there. we have surrounded iran with wars on either side. do you think it's possible this kind of instability can create opportunity?
    
    seymour hersh spoke last year before this election of the kind of infiltration we have made into iran these past few years
    
    Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. United States Special Operations Forces have been conducting cross-border operations from southern Iraq, with Presidential authorization, since last year. These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of “high-value targets” in the President’s war on terror, who may be captured or killed. But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which involve the Central Intelligence Agency and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), have now been significantly expanded, according to the current and former officials. Many of these activities are not specified in the new Finding, and some congressional leaders have had serious questions about their nature.
    
    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/0807...
    
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