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Posted By pc25 5 months, 4 weeks ago in NewsThis is what propaganda looks like:
Americans overwhelmingly support substantial changes to the health care system and are strongly behind [72%] one of the most contentious proposals Congress is considering, a government-run insurance plan to compete with private insurers, according to the latest New York Times/CBS New
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pc255 months, 4 weeks ago
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The number who would be willing to pay higher taxes to fund Obamacare (57%) is lower than in 1993. Of those willing to pay higher taxes, only 43% would be willing to pay as much as $500 a year more in taxes. That means fewer than 25% of a sample largely skewed towards liberals are willing to pay an amount far less than what Obamacare may actually require.-
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Tangent0015 months, 4 weeks ago
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"In this poll, the sample identified as 27% liberal, 37% moderate, and 29% conservative. In contrast, last week’s Gallup Poll showed Americans identify as 21% liberal, 35% moderate, and 40% conservative."
The NYT poll did NOT segment by liberal, moderate, and conservative, they used people identifying as Democrat, Independent, and Republican. If you look at the Gallup poll, many Democrats identify as conservative, so the numbers are actually quite close.
So Hot Air is lying about their 'analysis'. Go figure.
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Dionys5 months, 4 weeks ago
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"Don't debate the issue - just make personal attacks. Typical liberal"
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When someone consistantly lies, misstates the truth, twists the facts to say something they don't and then can't back them up with actual facts, as Klarissa is famous for doing, then it's not a personal attack, it's an attack on research methods.
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BB645 months, 4 weeks ago
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Once again we see the media covering for Il Duce Obama and his Grand Council of Fascists. What a scam!!! Then again, he's the President of the United States and this is the best he can do? What kind of advisers did that dork hire? All unemployable college lackeys? Eggheads who "know" everything. So far it's working really well... A few more months like we've seen and we're finished as a nation.
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GWHayduke5 months, 4 weeks ago
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-"A few more months like we've seen and we're finished as a nation."-
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The Dow Jones Industrials average closed at 7,949 on Inauguration Day.
Today it closed at 8,339.
Yep, looks like we're finished as a nation.
Had John "fundamentals of the economy are sound" McCain taken the reigns with the most belligerent economic pirate in recent history, Phil Graham in control the downward spiral would have continued en masse.
The Obama economic policy has halted the idiocy of Bush's policy of inaction.-
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nostalgia5 months, 4 weeks ago
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You might want to bookmark these articles also
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Bloomberg.com
Cost of U.S. Crisis Action Grows, Along With Debt
The 2009 budget deficit could be close to $2 trillion, or 12.5 percent of gross domestic product, more than twice the record of 6 percent set in 1983, according to David Greenlaw, Morgan Stanley's chief economist.
Or this one: US News and World Report
Obama's $2 Trillion Dollar Budget Deficit
Yesterday’s Congressional Budget Office (CBO) release of the updated FY ’09 budget numbers showed a $1.2 trillion deficit for the fiscal year (8.5% of GDP). However, a closer examination of the report demonstrates these numbers are dramatically underestimated due to the scoring of TARP expenditures and obviously the fact that the stimulus was left out of the scoring (CBO is creating a budget baseline based on current law).Based on our analysis, the deficit is actually $2.2 trillion for the fiscal year or nearly 100 percent higher than is being reported. In fact, the deficit will finish the fiscal year at an astonishing 15.5 percent of GDP! Federal spending will rise to 32 percent of GDP.
Or this one: Government Executive.com
Deficit will near $2 trillion in 2009, federal budget expert predicts
A former staff member of the House and Senate Budget committees and a longtime observer of the federal budget process on Thursday said the 2008 record budget deficit of $455 billion likely will quadruple in 2009.
"These are unprecedented numbers in nominal terms. In political terms, it's rather astounding," said Stan Collender, during a briefing at the nonpartisan Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments. Collender is a managing director for Qorvis Communications and maintains a blog at www.capitalgainsandgames.com.
Or even NPR:
On Friday, the Congressional Budget Office will project that the federal deficit will reach $2 trillion — a higher figure than President Obama predicted.
Need any more for your bookmarks?
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nostalgia5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Then go look at the NYT poll for yourself
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Or are you against exploring the truth for yourself?
And what does that have to do with the articles i provided you on the projected deficit?
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tanglang5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Now wait just a damn minute there hayduke! Obama himself used those exact words 2 months ago. That's what kind of a two faced chump he is. 10 months ago he jumped all over McCain for saying the fundamentals were strong only to plagiarize him 8 months later. And you guys buy into it hook line and sinker.
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beavith15 months, 4 weeks ago
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psssst GW. the Dow Jones dropped a couple losers and picked up a couple winners since then.
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i agree that we aren't finished as a nation, but the DJIA is a moving target with little more than 'feel good' appeal.
saying what McCain or Phil Gramm would have done is a pointless negative argument. who cares? its Obama and his crew that we have to live with. woulda coulda shoulda is not a strategy.
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GWHayduke5 months, 4 weeks ago
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True - most of that beav.
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But insinuating that current policy is the end of the free world, or even worse than the previous policy is just partisan ranting with no beneficial effect.
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pc255 months, 4 weeks ago
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http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/19/oh-my-health...
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Oh my: Health care, amnesty, climate change bills all suddenly in trouble
Imagine what the conservative grassroots reaction would be like if the GOP held the White House, both houses of Congress, and a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and still couldn’t get its core domestic programs passed. You think you hate RINOs? Wait and see how the nutroots respond to Blue Dog Democrats if they end up scuttling universal health care when all the numbers are in the left’s favor. Especially when Drudge has an item up about talks on climate change between Democrats having blown up last night and Gibbs is telling the White House press corps that the votes still aren’t there on amnesty, notwithstanding the fact that the Democrats picked up seats last year in both chambers and The One promising a Hispanic group today that it’s coming.
Now that Nancys power is starting to erode she can no longer run rough shod over the Blue Dogs......these guys are not going to commit political suicide and vote for this with the 2010 elections just around the corner.......-
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k9kssr5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Obamacare would cost trillions and only cover 18 million of the uninsured, according to the latest report from the CBO. How is that considered "Universal" health care?
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But you know, when it is pointed out that illegal immigrants are taking big bites out of health care expenditures, the left screams that you can't deny them care while they are here illegally, that would be inhumane. They also tout how wonderful Canada's health care system is, so I suggest we all head to Canada when we need medical attention. They wouldn't deny us health care would they? That would be inhumane. Problem solved.-
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greenmac5 months, 4 weeks ago
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You may have missed the articles about medical bankruptcies in the US... I believe 60% of personal bankruptcies are medical. There should be no one left uninsured and it should be a single payer system. Yes we have a good health care system n Canada... not perfect but better than the US system.
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Getting back to the issue of medical bankruptcy... an issue unheard of in Canada.... I guess you can go from physically ill to mentally ill when the bills roll in.
"Bankruptcy is just the tip of the iceberg: 29 million Americans are in medical debt," says Jennifer Edwards of the Commonwealth Fund, a private foundation that supports research on health and social issues.
A recent Commonwealth study defined those in medical debt as paying bills to health care providers or having large credit card debt or loans against their homes related to medical costs.
Of those, 70% were insured when they got the health care that put them in debt, and nearly half had used up all or most of their savings,"
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/20...
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greenmac5 months, 4 weeks ago
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If this is true Obama is not taking it far enough. I cannot see anyone approving a system that discriminates base on age. Under our system,medical bankruptcy does not exist. As well there should be no charges for hospital care. We do have to provide for meds and glasses through company sponsored insurance or if you are unable to pay , then a person may apply for assistance.
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fiftynine5 months, 4 weeks ago
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"But you know, when it is pointed out that illegal immigrants are taking big bites out of health care expenditures, the left screams that you can't deny them care while they are here illegally,....LOLOLOLOLOL...I get the biggest kick out of watching you make an azz out of yourself...Have you read my profile ? Did some democrat tell thats how they feel..Of coarse you didn't...You just spout the same crap that rush and beck tell you....It just goes to show what non thinking morons you are really are...
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beavith15 months, 4 weeks ago
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probably very few. but because of the disjointed health care markets between the US and Canada and vice versa, prescription drugs were cheaper in Canada, so a lot of US prescriptions got filled through Canada.
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and Mexico, too, for that matter.
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Will13135 months, 4 weeks ago
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Will13135 months, 4 weeks ago
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i just did.. i ask who karl is.... and what makes him an expert any more the yourself...and you couldn't answer the question.. seems you cannot back up your SOURCE..
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the only thing you'd be an expert on would be hate .. you spread more crap than a manure spreader...
i feel very sorry for you ... well actually not.. because you and your kind brought this on yourselves.. and you're too stupid to realize it...
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fiftynine5 months, 4 weeks ago
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"hey moron boy dispute the article...."...Put up someone that is credible...at least as credible as the fox mouth peice CBS and the NYT...Until then go back to your circle jerk moron,you are missed,bb won't get off if you are gone to long....I won't call you boy..you have to grow some to earn that title.
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fiftynine5 months, 4 weeks ago
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"By the way; nice PTSD rants."....lolololol...Not even close..You wouldn't want to be close when that happens..To bad you couldn't experience some yourself,but punk azz cowards like you just want to throw what you consider to be insults at people like me to get some sort of weird pleasure.You make it perfectly clear to everyone what an unappreciative little bastard you are. Grow up punk ..
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icono15 months, 4 weeks ago
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Oh ok.....
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I'm duly impressed with what appears to be a dull knife intellect trying to impress me, and others, with your brilliant in depth crystal ball psycho-analysis of my questions as well as intentions.
Again; nice PTSD rants.
That is not an insult; just recognition of your state of mind. Which seems to be permanent.
Again; who do you consider credible?
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fiftynine5 months, 4 weeks ago
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"That is not an insult; just recognition of your state of mind."...and now a punk like you knows my state of mind...lolol..You are a laughable little boy aren't you...Try to impress YOU....lololol... Feeling a little special are you...lololol...Like i said..grow up ,you are embaressing yourself...
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Will13135 months, 4 weeks ago
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Michelle Malkin who is the editor and owner of Hot Air is going to let just anyone publish on her site.
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pc255 months, 4 weeks ago
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hey exactly you need to crack open a bottle and pour yourself a tall cool one.....
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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_o9OdjxY26rU/SSOEAiagDiI/...
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pc255 months, 4 weeks ago
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another clueless Obot speaks just what we need another 2 trillion added to the deficit......seems our bonds look less and less attractive to the Chinese each passing day.......
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http://www.gifbin.com/981396
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greenmac5 months, 3 weeks ago
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Yes I was thrown off TRUSTSERVE not TRUST & SERVE... can't you even get that right. Now it is not a disgrace to get thrown off a site like that... a site that has an objective of hate Obama... smear Obama. There are a couple of good people there but most are products of hate. In reality there are about 9 to 10 active members.... not a good cross section of people.
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Now Woolfie... unlike you and a few others that go to TS and critique PROP and its members by name, I was staying away from doing the same on here.... but you opened the discussion. You represent the worse of the worse... you have a very basic intellect which is shown by your sinking of stories that music ..human interest..etc. You sink the story because of who submited it. what does that say about you? Does it support my statement regarding hate.... I believe it does.
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icono15 months, 4 weeks ago
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Skewed polls are always a problem, no matter what is being asked of who.
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Besides, Universal Govt Run Health Care is in the 'debate phase'; it is one thing to talk about it, it is another thing to 'deliver the goods'. Could be tough to deliver because it looks like the Blue Dogs are getting a bit worried about the Govts spending habits.....esp that part where our deficit did a quantum leap after OBama and crew decided to print money to 'save us' from ourselves.... and feel exposed to attacks from the Repo's and gasp!!! the voting public... because of it.
Yet, over at the Huffington post there seems to be some disillusionment with the 'O Messiah' and his Audacity Of Hope,
(.... the problem seems to be that words are fine but actions speak louder than words and the 'Barrack' is long on talk and short on action...),
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/hoping-f...
Intentionally skewed polls and unhappy natives; could be a long year for 'The 0ne'. Yet I'm sure the 0 Man will come out and say all of this is just a simple misunderstanding.-
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icono15 months, 4 weeks ago
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And the misunderstanings just keep piling up;
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http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/06/20/s...
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GWHayduke5 months, 4 weeks ago
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From comrade icono's referenced blog:
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-"I’ve received what purports to be a statement from Mousavi’s Office in Tehran...... I get a lot of material that can’t be authenticated....."-
Sounds like a pc25 source.
More of a misunderestimation than a misunderstandin' dontcha think, tovarishch?-
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pc255 months, 4 weeks ago
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apparently Hayseed is like all the OBOTS..........they just don't get it never did never will....5 months into Obama's administration and the train is already coming off the tracks...happened about 2 years sooner than I expected it would.......
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lovemylibs5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Here's a nice link (PDF format) that shows the NYT's / CBS polls are historically not known for their accuracy:
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injest5 months, 4 weeks ago
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"You may have missed the articles about medical bankruptcies in the US... I believe 60% of personal bankruptcies are medical."
Greenmac, down here we learned (the hard way) not to give much credence to politicians words.
Specifically the 60% of personal bankruptcies are medical is complete bunk, bull.
Put this in your browser and read the ABC report on this claim
Medical Bankruptcies: A Data-Check + ABC
The article is long and you have to pay attention, the actual number based on highly questionable logic,
“eight-tenths of one percent of Americans lived in families that filed for bankruptcy as a result of medical costs. That rings a little less loudly than “one every 30 seconds.””
Or about 17% not 60%
Among some of the questionable logic includes
“the Harvard researchers chose to add in any bankruptcy filers who had at least $1,000 in unreimbursed medical expenses in the previous two years”
In other words if the family declared bankruptcy and had $1,000 in medical bills, that bankruptcy was counted as medical REGARDLESS of any other factors.
Given deductibles and copays, that’s a heck of a lot of people.
“Moreover, Harvard’s definition of “medical” expenses includes situations that aren’t necessarily medical in common parlance, e.g., a gambling problem, or the death of a family member. If your main wage-earning spouse gets hit by a bus and dies, and you have to file, that’s included as a “medical bankruptcy.””
This would also include Alcohol, drugs addiction in general. Hey! We can now include cigarettes as well!
So if someone in America files for bankruptcy AND that person smokes well there ya go it’s a bankruptcy due to “medical reason”
Now are the folks up in Canada stupid enough to count cigarettes as a “medical reason”
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beavith15 months, 3 weeks ago
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this is an aspect that i hadn't heard.
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by itself, it almost torpedoes 'universal health care' right out of the water.
i waited a day to see if this point would grow legs and run a few libbys down.
not a peep.
well -HUH!
off to do some reading ...
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Klarissa5 months, 4 weeks ago
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http://documents.nytimes.com/latest-new-york-times...
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Latest New York Times/CBS News Poll
6. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling health care?
6/12-16/09
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Klarissa5 months, 4 weeks ago
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how the poll was conducted; http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/18/us/politics/18mb...
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How the Poll Was Conducted
Published: June 17, 2009
The latest New York Times/CBS News poll is based on telephone interviews conducted June 12 through June 16 with 895 adults throughout the United States.
The sample of land-line telephone exchanges called was randomly selected by a computer from a complete list of more than 69,000 active residential exchanges across the country. The exchanges were chosen so as to ensure that each region of the country was represented in proportion to its population.
Within each exchange, random digits were added to form a complete telephone number, thus permitting access to listed and unlisted numbers alike. Within each household, one adult was designated by a random procedure to be the respondent for the survey.
To increase coverage, this land-line sample was supplemented by respondents reached through random dialing of cellphone numbers. The two samples were then combined.
The combined results have been weighted to adjust for variation in the sample relating to geographic region, sex, race, marital status, age and education. In addition, the land-line respondents were weighted to take account of household size and number of telephone lines into the residence, while the cellphone respondents were weighted according to whether they were reachable only by cellphone or also by land line.
In theory, in 19 cases out of 20, overall results based on such samples will differ by no more than three percentage points in either direction from what would have been obtained by seeking to interview all American adults. For smaller subgroups, the margin of sampling error is larger. Shifts in results between polls over time also have a larger sampling error. -
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Klarissa5 months, 4 weeks ago
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In addition to sampling error, the practical difficulties of conducting any survey of public opinion may introduce other sources of error into the poll.
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wtagg5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Any poll can be manipulated and 895 results is not a good sample from the overall population.
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So many try to do so much with so little. That is probably why exit polling has become so *reliable*.
I think any poll from either side of the political fence is suspect.
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injest5 months, 4 weeks ago
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“Another unsubstantiated piece of crap! Honestly, pc25, do you not ever get tired? This hatred of yours is extremely unhealthy. Get therapy soon!”
Holy Scott! Are you claiming the New York Times is lying when they list the questions they asked and who they asked?
Page 18 of the nytimes latest-new-york-times-cbs-news-poll#p=18
Tells you that 48% voted for Obama and 25% for McCain, Scott is that what you are calling “unsubstantiated”?
19% didn’t vote 7% other
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stephen-johnson5 months, 4 weeks ago
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According to Gallup, Obama has gone from 69% approval/13% disapproval on Jan. 23-25 to 57/35 today. Slowly but surely, buyer's remorse is setting in. People are starting to look beyond Obama the political symbol and look at his poilicies instead.
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automan9095 months, 4 weeks ago
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As time goes on the people are realizing that they have elected an anti-American, wimpy, spineless, apologetic, Marxist on a mission to destroy America from within.
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It is becoming more clear by the day that the emperor has no clothes on.
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I've yet to hear about anyone going to Canada for medical treatment but I hear and read stories everyday about Canadians coming to the US for treatment. I can't figure out why since all the Canadians on Propeller continue to sing the praises of socialized medicine. Maybe the reason for this is they are really miserable with it and want the folks in the US to share in their misery.
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greenmac5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Woolfie my feeble minded friend... I do not expect you to understand why we like our system. it appears that you like things that are broken and leaders that are losers.
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Yes we have people that come to the US for treatment ...maybe they want to pay for that extra touch... We also have citizens of the US that come here and many other countries as well as they cannot afford the costs in the USA... Try googling "Medical Tourism" you may be supprised by how many leave the US for treatment.
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greenmac5 months, 4 weeks ago
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See my response to Woolfie. I don't believe there is a stampede to the border. When this debate comes up there are always those who bring up this item. It is a feeble attempt at disqualifying the Canadian system. What bugs me is the opposition to change the US system which doesn't work for everyone. If the system does not change, the future will become bleaker for health care down the road. My take on most of the opposition is the fact that Obama is leading the charge and therefore political beliefs are getting in the way of logic.
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fjgalt5 months, 4 weeks ago
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Whatever scheme is adopted, whether one adopted by the Democrats or by the Republicans, government -run, -paid, -regulated, etc., will have one group of citizens paying into a system from which others benefit.
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We haven't had a free market in health care for a long time, going back to the beginning of the 20th century when the government declared human beings, after thousands of years, could no longer be trusted to medicate themselves and would now be required to pay a government-licensed "doctor" for permission slips to buy the medication they need.
The latest proposal is for a government-run system whereby we pay into health care but someone else decides IF and WHEN and WHERE we receive it. "Let's see, Mr. Jones, you've paid for medical care all your life and now that you're 70 years old and need an expensive operation and treatment, we must say no, you'll just have to die because you're too old. In other words, there are many other people who the government has decided are worthier to receive the fruits of your lifelong labors than yourself," said the government bureaucrat.
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I was hurt at work 14 months ago. 6months to get workmans comp,another3months after that to receive disabilty ss.I was making 86.000 ayear.I am now making 46,000. I was in the hospitol 2 times atotal of 10 days,no operations were performed,I had vertigo,then i had a problem with an infaction from not moving my bowels due to meds. The total was 225,000 which at that time I still had insurance.I have contacted no fewer then 12 major medical co. and have been turned down by all of them. The next time I go to the hospitol I will have to file fo bankruptcy.
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fjgalt5 months, 4 weeks ago
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I understand your position. My home would be forfeited if I had the expenses you have had and I, too, would have to file for bankruptcy. My savings would not be able to cover that kind of expense.
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The hospitals see the insurance companies as revenue, padding the bills. Insurance companies try to pay as little as possible and deny as much as they can to their customers. This expensive, over-regulated, system can be traced to the government's interference in medical care. The more government "helps," the worse things get. That's why I want a truly free market system. It has increased quality and quantity while lowering costs in every economic sector that the government isn't involved.
Consider medical care in foreign countries such as Bangkok, Thailand and Singapore, even Guadalajara, Mexico. The care in their better hospitals gets good reviews and costs a fraction of what you'd pay in the U.S.
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fjgalt5 months, 4 weeks ago
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In the 19th and early 20th century, the best medical care existed in Europe. American doctors went there to study. New treatments, discoveries, and innovations occurred there.
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Today, you have people in England pulling out their decayed and painful teeth with pliers. What happened? Socialized medicine happened.
Socialism works until it runs out of other people's money.
I have no right to have government thugs steal from my neighbors to pay for my misfortune or laziness or ignorance to save for my medical care. And after saving for years to provide for my medical care, no one has a right to steal from me to give it to others.
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