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Posted By Mikunited 5 months, 2 weeks ago in Science & TechnologyThe number of hate and terrorist websites has increased by a third in the past year, according to the Simon Wiesenthal Center.
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dunkirk5 months, 2 weeks ago
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This is a scary time for the ultra righties. Their agenda failed miserably and Obama is making the stimulus work. Im afraid they are getting desperate from the right wing wach that went to the holocaust museum to the dings on here inisiting there is widespread disapproval (kinda odd tho they never have anything to back that up)
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dunkirk5 months, 2 weeks ago
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ROFLMAO Endo I enjoy reading your posts I always get a good laugh, So unemployments is down and the market is giving up gains, YET the recession that started during Bushs first term was all Clintons doing, What your seeing is the result of Bush inept financial policies playing out. Im always amazed at how the right is expecting Obama to correct a disaster that took 8 years to create thru inept financial policies and mismanagement yet he should of had them fixed by his second week. ROFLMAO.
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tanglang5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Right ... but not INSTANTLY!"
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No. He said it would not go above 8%.
"You praised Bush's atrocious leadership"
No I didn't. As a matter of fact, the only things that were "atrocious" about the Bush administration was his liberal spending and his weak stance on illegals.
"and lying and law-breaking"
You cannot prove he lied or broke the law. However, Obama is breaking the law by bombing in Pakistan right? Wheres the outrage there?
"But you want to call the stimulus a failure because there are no INSTANTANEOUS results?"
Hardly. I call it a failure because it was. Any body with half a brain could see that spending your way out of a recession that was brought on by spending is a stupid idea. Especially when no one read the bill they signed...
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bigG5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"The economy is bad and the child like need to blame someone other than their own useless ass who voted to send their job to China because they were too concerned about what other adults do in the privacy of their own home."
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Yes Captain, your name is appropriate. The thing that gets me is people of that ilk apparently have no problem taking away another person's right to make a choice(i.e. "freedom") if it doesn't happen to fit into their version of morality. -
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CaptainLucid5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Its a scary time for the rest of us because a cornered or wounded animal is the most dangerous because they are desperate. The economy is bad and the child like need to blame someone other than their own useless ass who voted to send their job to China because they were too concerned about what other adults do in the privacy of their own home.
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MisterX5 months, 2 weeks ago
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It's the Neocon agenda that failed - and for good reason. I can't associate Neocon even with right-wing extremist. Neocon is a totally different species.
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mesodude5 months, 2 weeks ago
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You make good points, dunkirk. I knew something was up with these people long before, in extreme desperation, they nominated John McCain and then collectively climaxed when Sarah Palin showed up at the GOP convention last summer. Even before then, so much con desperation...We had Limbaugh and his "Operation Chaos" and we had cons claiming black people were planning to riot if Obama lost (which we now know was cons projecting), we had lipsticked pigs, we had McCain at a sausage factory and McCain "rushing" back to DC to save the day. They've become so shrill and desperate it's almost to the point of self-parody. How did the GOP reach the point where John McCain could lose so spectacularly and then show up months later dispensing "wisdom" on Iran? Btw, has anyone on the right told McCain that when he talks about Iran (or foreign policy in general), Americans immediately think of his re-mix of "Barbara Ann"?
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Ciera-Marie5 months, 2 weeks ago
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A seperate thread regarding myths and neocons you mentioned the Holocaust Museum shooter being a member of the DNC. You claimed it's a myth, that no one is saying it. Yet , Klarissa two posts above yours libsrfunny says exactly that in his comment. Did you point it out to him that he is wrong? Ask him to back up his statement?
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Here it is in case you missed it.:
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"...the right wing wach that went to the holocaust museum to the dings on here inisiting there is widespread disapproval (kinda odd tho they never have anything to back that up)..."
According to many reports, the Holocaust Museum nut job was a registered Democrat and ran as a Democrat in Maryland in the lat '60s. It would appear you are EXACTLY what you accuse others of being. -
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KISA452a5 months, 2 weeks ago
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The definition of hate group is so skewed and broad that it is used to stimatize any who disagree with the left. Your efforts to demonize anything not left of center simply alienates any who are not in "your" group and creates and furthers the cause of the radicals.
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All views should be respected and allowed. Actions, not so much. But as shown by the current French efforts to outlaw the bhurka, Europeans (and many on the left in the US who want to become like Europeans) are desperately trying to pick fights. Freedom of religion? Nah! Freedom of expression? Nah!-
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Beau78905 months, 2 weeks ago
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You might want to look up some of the websites mentioned in the article (Stormfront, for instance), if you deny they espouse hatred and if you believe "all views should be respected." Allowed, yes--respected...?
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You may also want to take note of the fact that neither the article nor anyone here is saying the websites shouldn't be allowed to exist. The point is that we need to be aware that the radical beliefs expressed by many of these hate groups are spreading, and that they're dangerous and destructive.-
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KISA452a5 months, 2 weeks ago
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True, respected was a poor choice of words. I keep getting that from the left as a talking point...
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"Holocaust denial is a perfect example of how a hateful idea was incubated on the internet." Some deniers base their denials on the best of their knowledge. The idea that denial a hateful idea is idiotic.
"Otherwise what is true becomes dogma and then becomes incapable of being defended" One of the best statements of the article that is usually ignored.
"Holocaust denial is illegal in 13 countries, including France, Germany and Israel." You want to discuss hate groups? These 13 countries should be at the forefront. Believe and say what we want or face the might of the government!
""However, if they are going to take down KKK (Ku Klux Klan) pages and pages which promote Islamic terrorism, then they should also take down hateful Holocaust denial pages and stop pushing the myth that they are for 'free speech'."
He added the group would "do everything in our power" to convince Facebook to "do the right thing". " I thought you said no one "saying the websites shouldn't be allowed to exist."...
Many people do think voices with which they disagree should be silenced. This presentation should be considered hate speech because it gives the basis for why people freedom of speech should be abridged. But then I guess it isn't PC to think this way so it is OK to silence it....-
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Beau78905 months, 2 weeks ago
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Holocaust denial certainly can be hateful. I imagine it's possible that there are some who believe it are simply ignorant of facts, but it's been my experience that the vast majority of Holocaust deniers willfully disregard the facts out of belief in some kind of Jewish conspiracy. After all, it's not as though most aren't familiar with the facts, which are taught in most schools.
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Doing "everything in our power" does not necessarily mean doing anything illegal--to my mind, it means promoting their goals within the law. That is also a basic right in the U.S., and is consistent with the concept of free speech.
Censorship of ideas is not hate, regardless of whether it's right. There's a difference between not allowing speech (censorship) and promoting persecution of those who believe the censored ideas (hate).
As for the free speech being limited in those 13 countries, I don't know what their laws are concerning free speech--if they don't have the same protections Americans have, they're not doing anything illegal.-
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KISA452a5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Actually, there are many more facts out there than most people acknowledge because they have been force fed one version of history. You believe what was taught in school which in many cases (outside of haulocaust) most people would acknowledge is a mistake.
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So, if you can get the government to censor it's ok? Not sure I agree there.
Censorship is certainly hate. It threatens loss of life liberty and possessions if you go against the government.
Western society constnatly preaches that free speech is a necessary cornerstone to a free democratic society. Even those of the 13 countries I know. But as usual, they don't want censorship of their own views, only those of their "opponenets".-
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Beau78905 months, 2 weeks ago
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Most American Jews, including myself, have relatives who were killed in death camps or in pogroms that took place outside of the camps.
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Beau78905 months, 2 weeks ago
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Regarding censorship, here's what I said: It's not legal by the government of the U.S., except where it is likely to lead to a danger to public safety, as expressed by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. in Schenck v. United States, (1919).
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jakesguile5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I have to disagree with you on that school thing, I took a lot of advanced history classes in High School and I'm preeettttyyyyy certain that I have a firm grasp of history as it happened Kisa
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You wouldn't happen to believe in that revisionist crap, would you dude?-
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jakesguile5 months, 2 weeks ago
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No I mean it's pretty much what's taught everywhere because when you google or read other textbooks in college (although I shouldn't maybe use the college class as an example, I blew it off due to stress) containing the same exact information, albeit in more detail.
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KISA452a5 months, 2 weeks ago
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So, what are his assertions based on? Have you looked into them? I suspect that 99% of people who think he's a fool have not even thought about what he says, do not know what he says, or why he has these ideas. They just go to school, are spoon fed something and buy it. I mean, did Columbus discover America as said in thousands of text books? Of course not, the idians were here... But if you just read the texts and listen to what is taught (although this is being change in recent times) you would never question the assertion that he discovered America. Just a random example. What you learn is school is often wrong.
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jakesguile5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Obviously the Indians were here first, they never mention that part until high school... by that part I mean the really sadistic things we did to the Indians and to the Mexicans in Cuba with Cortez. Besides, according to most history books Columbus was clearly psychotic. Complete fanatic. He'd refer to himself in the third person in his accounts back to Spain.
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Natureboy5 months, 2 weeks ago
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You must respect the right to free speech, although you don't need to respect the speech itself. You can't take away the free speech of others without endangering your own.
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As for the racists, subject them to ridicule, for their beliefs are ridiculous, and making them be seen as ridiculous in the public eye will damage their cause in a way that mere repression never could.
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mesodude5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"The definition of hate group is so skewed and broad that it is used to stimatize any who disagree with the left. "
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--No, it's skewed only in the minds of desperate cons. That's why your sick, hateful hero Rush Limbaugh tried to convince his flock last week that the 88 year old right wing extremist terrorist who recently shot a museum guard to death was from the left. That's how desperate you people are to believe only what you want to be true. You're always the victim, never the oppressor. Btw, I find it interesting that the very people who accuse liberals of being intolerant are the very ones with the mindset that there is nothing we can learn from other countries and America always knows best. Just listen to the disdain with which you people always talk about Europe (for example). It's sad.-
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KISA452a5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Dude... You can say whatever you want about the right if you can back it up. Take your personal attacks and take a hike when you try to apply them to me without any support. Alternatively, provide evidence that I like Rush, that I consider myself "always the victim, never the opressor" that I have "the mindset that there is nothing we cna learn from other countries and America always knows best." I speak with distain for Europe when I distain a specific action or philosophy. You may not be able to distain one part of a group and not transfer that to every aspect of the group. I have no problems distaining censorship in Europe but admiring other aspects.
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Endoscopy5 months, 2 weeks ago
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The story mentions people banned from Britain. One of them is Michael Savage. He is not a hate monger unless you consider very conservative talk as hate. But then that is what a lot of liberals think. They have no conception of how much hate they spout.
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Dionys5 months, 2 weeks ago
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His website is "The home of the Savage Nation." Here's some of his crapola being spewed:
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http://nosavage.org/
His lies, hatemongering, racism and crap stink. Here's some of the things he's said:
"90 percent of the people on the Nobel Committee are into child pornography and molestation, according to the latest scientific studies"
Savage advocating "kill[ing] 100 million" Muslims
Savage on immigrant students' hunger strike: "[L]et them fast until they starve to death. ... Go make a bomb where you came from"
Citing more sex-change operations, increased lesbian fertility clinics, Savage said of 9-11: "That was God speaking"
On MLK Day, Savage called civil rights a "racket" designed to steal "white males' birthright"
To "save the United States," lawmakers should institute "outright ban on Muslim immigration" and on "the construction of mosques"
U.S. Senate "more vicious and more histrionic than ever, specifically because women have been injected into" it
"Jimmy Carter is like Hitler"
"Burn the Mexican Flag!"
Savage on the tsunami: "I wouldn't call it a tragedy. ... We shouldn't be spending a nickel on this"
Now granted he's just a hatemongering monkey, but we've seen the kind of results these hatemongering monkeys can inspire in those who are mentally imbalanced (more often than not, right wingers with guns that have large clips).-
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KISA452a5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Thankfully he has freedom of speech which is considered one of the cornerstones of Western democratic thought. Unfortunately, our friends in the UK do not believe in it.
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I don't agree with much of what he says, but silencing him is an apauling thought for anyone intersted in the Constitution and any freedoms.
It amuses me to no end that those who call themselves "progressives" who came, in many cases, from the civil rights/liberal groups and fought stringently against limits on speech are trying to limit opposing voices now that they are in power.-
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Progressive5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"It amuses me to no end that those who call themselves 'progressives' who came, in many cases, from the civil rights/liberal groups and fought stringently against limits on speech are trying to limit opposing voices now that they are in power."
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We respect the first amendment rights of all Americans, including the hate- mongering hoards of the extreme right.
We also respect the UK's right to prevent purveyors of hate from spreading this bile in their countries.
...and we exercise our right to denounce hate speech wherever it arises.-
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Progressive5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I don't condone rape or torture by any country, including the U.S.
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However, we were talking about banning hate mongers, so you've really gone off topic.
...and my pedestal was knocked out from under me decades ago--but I appreciate your concern.
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Mikunited5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I am from the UK and am pleased that this shock-jock ,is banned from entering my country..We have got our own nasty right--BNP,(British National Party) they have won office into some councils and now also have 2 MEP's(Members of the European Parliament),this despite wanting to pull the UK out of the EU.
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They stir trouble in parts of England that have a mixed ethnicity,using skin-heads as their brown-shirts.They have been directly and indirectly responsible for many injuries and more than a few deaths.They use skin head and others of a limited IQ to do their violence for them.
My problem with Savage, isn't only that he is a bigot,raciest,anti gay,nasty piece of work.It is that his presence in the UK is likely to effect our far-right.It doesn't take much to get our small minded,low IQ skin heads to act violently.So as we can't remove all our indigenous fools,we have to keep ones from other nations out.
One thing that is different in the UK to the USA,is that our Conservatives,though right-wing and against my own mores, have repositioned themselves to the left,of what is considered extreme far-right thinkers,they are merely right-wingers.In the USA over the last few years,there has become a blurring between, right-wing Republicans,Gingrich,Cheney etc,and far-right groups.
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Mutainia5 months, 2 weeks ago
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How come I get the feeling that you will attack free speech by denying Savage into the UK, but, will refuse to expose Muhammadan clerics who, in their mosques, call for the over-throw of British government to then impose Sharia in the UK and call Jews the descendants of monkies and pigs? I bet you will attack someone like Savage before you will attack Hamas for having Muhammadan Mickey Mouses calling Jews "killers of women and children" to impressionable little kids, telling them to seek Jihad with guns and swords being the goal in life, true? I've got video footage of the little kids marching around and looking like they are killing Jews if you don't believe me. But, hey, you WILL deny Savage first before denying those who do that, true?
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Mikunited5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Amidst the people not being allowed into the UK,are several Muslim clerics.To me,it doesn't matter who may cause violence,with words full of hatred.Anyone who could incite violence,should not be allo
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iwed into this nation.
As for "Where did I hear Savage",the net is polluted with his hatred and spleen.I make it my business to find out who the government,(in the name of the people),are stopping at the border.I think stopping people from entering your nation,is an action that needs to be used sparingly.
The UK is a tolerant nation,bye and large,we have socialized medicine,no death penalty,abortion,when needed,freedom to worship anything you want,or nothing at all.These things are considered sacred by socialist,liberal,or conservative.So why not ban the very few people,who may mess this up.
I'm not a patriot by the way,we have plenty of stupid things in the UK,just like everywhere.We have a Queen,which is against everything I believe in
We got dragged into an illegal war or two,the gap between rich and poor is obscene.However,we don't do shock-jocks and I'd like to keep it that way!!-
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Mutainia5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Mik: Amidst the people not being allowed into the UK,are several Muslim clerics.
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Mut: For what reason? For killing, NOT just talking, true?
Mik: To me,it doesn't matter who may cause violence,with words full of hatred.
Mut: Could you make up your mind, then?
Mik: Anyone who could incite violence,should not be allo
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Mut: "To me,it doesn't matter who may cause violence,with words full of hatred"?
Mik: As for "Where did I hear Savage",the net is polluted with his hatred and spleen.
Mut: Hatred? Hatred of who? It seems the only thing he hates is "radical Islam". Is that what you have a problem with?
Mik: I make it my business to find out who the government,(in the name of the people),are stopping at the border.
Mut: Really?
Mik: I think stopping people from entering your nation,is an action that needs to be used sparingly.
Mut: What if they come illegally, or, are coming to impose Sharia Law?
Mik: The UK is a tolerant nation,
Mut: Except to those who expose Islam like Geert Wilders and those who talk about "radical Islam", like Michael Savage, I see.
Mik: bye and large,we have socialized medicine,no death penalty,abortion,when needed,freedom to worship anything you want,or nothing at all.
Mut: Ok.
Mik: These things are considered sacred by socialist,liberal,or conservative.
Mut: Not by those under Sharia Law, except for the death penalty.
Mik: So why not ban the very few people,who may mess this up.
Mut: How would Savage "mess this up"?
Mik: I'm not a patriot by the way,we have plenty of stupid things in the UK,just like everywhere.We have a Queen,which is against everything I believe in
We got dragged into an illegal war or two,the gap between rich and poor is obscene.However,we don't do shock-jocks and I'd like to keep it that way!!
Mut: Whatever happened to Liberal, "I may not agree with what you say, but, will fight to the death your right to say it?"
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Goppy5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Really?
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I would say you bear a remarkable resemblance to Joseph Goebbels --
I'd say you were like Hydra ... with each of your heads spewing venomous racism.
And you also remind me of a Chimera ... certainly .... your comments are typically chimerical.
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Mutainia5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I say you bear a remarkable resemblance to part of a yellow chess board, but, I bet you wouldn't do to well against Kasparov in a game of chess. You SAY I have many heads spewing venomous racism, yet, like the average Muhammadan when confronted with a guy who questions Islam, NEVER provides proof for why the confronter of Islam is a racist, or, hater. May I call you a tqqiya-ing, or, lying Muhammadan until you provide your evidence?
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galletta61215 months, 2 weeks ago
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For Liberals, religious faith and belief in God are outdated pagan concepts, which do more harm than good. Sophisticated citizens can rely on the Democrat party for support from cradle to grave, obviating the need to rely on beliefs and rituals long since debunked.
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Symbols of Christianity such as the Ten Commandments, the Cross, Christmas trees, nativity scenes, and the like must be hidden from public view so as to offend no one.
Publicly wishing a friend or family member “Merry Christmas” is clearly an act of civil disobedience and unconstitutional.
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jakesguile5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"Multiculturalism must be openly promoted"
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AND THIS IS A BAD THING....ummmm...HOW?!
You're one of those anti-multicultural psychopaths?
By the way I'm a Christian and I vote hard left Liberal. And I'm Gay. Does that disturb your sentiments Galletta?-
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jakesguile5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Technically I'm Catholic, but I've been considering converting to Episcopalian after hearing how their churches don't really play up that "Fire n' Brimstone" bullcrap.
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But I've never really gone to church very much or read very many religious texts (I had to read Genesis and Gospel of John (I think it was John) for my Junior AP English Language class in high school, I ended up getting started late cause we had to use KJB and we couldn't find a copy. They chose it so that everyone would have the same version for the purposes of studying). Annywaayyy essentially I qualify as "Spiritual but not Religious" in that I believe in God and I believe in Jesus because that's just the way I was raised. I believe in the basic tenets which are loving thy neighbor and basically just trying to make this world a better place. My way into Heaven is "Don't be an Axe Murderer, don't diddle 2 year olds, don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal, don't harm, be honest, be kind, love, be loved, be healthy and happy, you're golden"
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galletta61215 months, 2 weeks ago
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Yes JAKEO!, multiculturalism is a bad thing!
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Forcing multiculturalism on society like the left is doing, will inherently leave us prone to conflict, not harmony. It only creates more demands, fills us with anger, and encourages the non-shooting war against Americans, their traditions, and inevitably western civilization. If multiculturalism had real benefits Americans would want more of it, and would ask that yet more cities in the U.S. be handed over to immigrants. they are not., their looking for a border fence Valuing multiculturalism is a hobby for people who do not have to endure its benefits.
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jakesguile5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Wow, I knew he'd said some monsterous **** but that's just...off the beat of common decency man... I was going to copy-quote the worst ones to more accurately express my outrage but you know what? They're all pretty damn bad... If he ever said them then he needs to be ashamed of himself...
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And they were up in arms about the Letterman joke... every single one of those is just as bad if not worse (if we're to believe that Letterman actually meant Bristol then his joke's bad taste PALES in comparison with the meant-to-say nastiness of these jokes).... This all assumes that he was making bad jokes when he said this and not serious - which he in all likelihood, was -
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Endoscopy5 months, 1 week ago
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Don't like the truth about Islam I take it. The rant is absolutely correct.
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I have been reading the Quran and hadith and what I fine is contradictory messages. Then I found the concept of abrogation. So you then have to find out which chapter was spoken first and that one is abrogated. All of the nice verses were spoken in Mecca. The angry and hateful ones talking about taking a sword to the neck of unbelievers are from his Medina time therefore take priority over the Meccan ones. There is no compulsion in religion is obviously abrogated since if a Muslim converts to Christianity they are to be killed.
Then the hadith talk about the fact that there were different versions of the Quran. One person dragged another one to Muhammad over the way that one was quoting the Quran. Muhammad told them they were both right on speaking those verses. In one hadith he said that there are 7 versions. Where are the other 6. Also the reason given for having the Quran written down is the fact that too many Quran speakers died in the War of Apostasy and there was a chapter that was eaten by a goat while Muhammad was being buried. So according to the hadith there are parts of the Quran that are missing. 7 Versions and parts missing with only one version known of today. So what does the missing parts say and the different versions say??????
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mesodude5 months, 2 weeks ago
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"The story mentions people banned from Britain. One of them is Michael Savage. He is not a hate monger unless you consider very conservative talk as hate."
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LOL...I love the way your mind works, Endo. You can rationalize anything. Limbaugh is not hateful, he's just reeeeeeeeally "conservative." Limbaugh is an "entertainer" so he's allowed to bark racist comments all day long and prancing cons don't flip out and start acting crazy when he says things way the hell worse than what Letterman said. What's another one of my con favorites? Oh...It's not hateful, it's the "truth". You're a laugh a minute, Endo.-
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Goppy5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Well ... they've certainly done a fine job of marketing it for the masses.
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But hate speech has been around a long - long time.
Believe me ... NO one thinks that Modern Conservatives INVENTED Hate Speech.
After all ... Conservatism is not known for their 'Out Of The Box' thinking.
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fiftynine5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Funny that the headline contains the word hate and look who drops it...waggie and danel...lolol..Who would have guessed.The when you read the comments of endo and the others..it isn't hard to see where the hate comes from..These people need the rush growth surgically removed from their brains,then another surgery to remove the growth off of their heads.
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icono15 months, 2 weeks ago
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Hate Group activity is up.
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The question is why.
Is the answer a simple 'OBama won the election' or is the reason a more complicated social shift due to changing demographics and economic forces that underlines the insecurities of 'groups' that fell politically and economically marginalized by these and other changes. -
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galletta61215 months, 2 weeks ago
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Oh really, Obama is making the stimulus work? Last projections I heard, unemployment is projected to reach 13% by the end of the summer. So explain to me how its working. Tell me exactly how he is doing this, and how it is making the lives of the average taxpaying American better. Last projections I heard, is that unemployment is projected to reach 13% by the end of the summer. give me a break down of where exactly the trillions of dollars have gone into the economy to stimulate anything.
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The only people getting stimulated from this huge welfare bill disguised as a stimulus, are people who contribute little or next to nothing to the economy in the first place. Watch this video of the Inspector general of the federal reserve as she is asked by a congressional lawmaker where exactly all these trillions are going. If she hasn't a clue; then neither do you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJqM2tFOxLQ These stimulus thefts are going towards a down pyment on Obamas Socialist America, and people like you are all to willing to spread his lies. But when the day comes where you personally are stripped of one of your freedoms through the oppression of Socialism, you will whistle a whole new tune.-
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galletta61215 months, 2 weeks ago
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Somebody's in deep denial!
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If you think the gobbling up of 40% of Americas economy by the Obama administration is America at its best, You had better do a little research into what Socialism is, and how it may effect your pathetic life in the future. You are probably so raped up in your own little La La land world, that you truly do not understand what the hell is going on in America. Or maybe you just don't care. Wait until the price of KY-jelly goes up, you'll be bitching and moaning then, "literally" -
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galletta61215 months, 2 weeks ago
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It's not hatred thats on the rise, its the awakening of a race of people who are tired of being blamed for the failures of other races. It's pure resentment from people who see the truth about political correctness and the race card, and realize that they have been duped into dismantling their own race and culture to make others who are ungrateful way more comfortable then they would afford you.
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The days of Obama-Mania will come to an abrupt end, as time goes by and America awakens to the reality that its first black president is raping white America of its wealth, and redistributing it as trillion dollar welfare giveaways disguised as stimulus. He is not trying to save the economy of a capitalist America that he see's as a tool of white Americas prosperity, he is trying to destroy it and level the playing field for the have-nots who just never got the hang of what earning and saving is all about.. He is trying to collapse American Capitalism and remake America in his Black theology racist Socialist vision. You may go on missing the warning signs, and support a smiling madman who operates at the level of a snake, and who will eventually destroy you, but sooner or later you will come to see the truth. If anyone is guilty of racism today, it most certainly isn't white folks. And you shouldn't live your life walking on eggshells out of fear or guilt for something you had no part of. If the accusations of blaming whites did anything, it created more hatred and resentment towards people who have learned to play the race card. Do not fall for it! The charge of "institutional racism" is no different from declaring an entire economic class an enemy of the people. "The Race Card” is multiculturalism's assault weapon, just as class warfare was for Communists, and the effects are the same. If a crime can be collectivized all can be guilty because they belong to the wrong group. When young whites become victims of racial preferences, they become today's version of the Russian peasant. Even if they themselves have never oppressed anyone, they "belong to the race that is guilty of everything.” America is suffering with the lefts disease of Political correctness. A disease where our mouths move and make sounds, but they are the sounds and movements of a politically correct brainwashed citizenship walking on the eggshells of a disease called political correctness, afraid to speak their minds, and take action against issues that destructive to their own race.. After twenty years of listening to his racist black theoligist preaching Race hustler, would you really expect anything else. Wake up, smell the coffee, then free yourself of it's insanity.-
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jakesguile5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I got through the first sentence and I just can't finish this....it might poison my mind with Batshit"
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"It's about a race of people realizing other races are wrong" - Racist.
"I oppose Multiculturalism" - Bigot
"White folks aren't guilty of racism" Dude you sound like a white Uncle Ruckus. Grow up, get a clue. People like you scare me more than almost any other group. Know why?
You know who else opposes Multiculturalism? The KKK. Are you KKK galletta?-
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galletta61215 months, 2 weeks ago
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You jakesguile are a brainwashed moron who shoots off your mouth without using your demented brain. If I were a racist, I would have no problem expressing it. I am a straight shooting honest person. and will never be silenced by the P.C. police I have never condemned a whole race of people as inferior to my own, I see people as individuals, not colors. You respect me, I respect you; that's it! But because you are not capable of understanding the point I was trying to make in response to another post, you went ahead and shot off your pathetic, angry ,hateful, politically correct, brainwashed liberal mouth. Now you may fall for all the deceptions, lies and snakelike policies Obama makes; and you may believe he has the best of intentions for America, but I don't! If I am A racist because I condemned our president who happens to be black, then we have problems. And it is exactly part of the original point I was trying to make.
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It is more then likely that a person who sat for twenty years in a hard core racist church that spewed out outright hatred for the white race and the American capitalist system, has a pay back mentality, and is a hateful racist himself. He is no different from the Al Sharpton type, except he is in a very powerful position, and becomes a potential danger to America's future. Now couple that with his refusal to wear an American flag on the lapel of his suit, his disrespect for the national anthem, his refusal to be seen at a catholic institution with a cross in the background, and his pandering to Muslims and demands on Israeli's, and its not to hard to figure out. And that doesn't even include his radical background, and the people he chose to surround himself with throughout his life. Can you honestly say that none of this anti-white, anti-American thinking accompanied him into the White House. No! You may march to his beat, and choose to overlook his past for whatever reasons you have. Maybe your an American hater yourself, or you are so blinded by party affiliation that you will accept him no matter what he does, but there are way to many people who have their heads screwed on the right way, and see him for the potential danger he is. He is a racist American hater bent on destroying a capitalist system he perceives as being run by rich white men, and he sees a chance to destroy it. It is clear to many that his goal is to collapse the American economy and rebuild it in his Marxist Socialist vision. He is placing trillions on #19 red, and spinning the wheel. The gambler could care less about losing it. He has amassed more debt for generations in a few months, then every past president combined. How the hell do you solve the problem of national debt, by adding phenomenal amounts of debt on top of it? It makes no sense, unless of course you are intentionally trying to destroy American capitalism, and America's wealth; then it all makes sense.-
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jakesguile5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Again I didn't read the entire post, after you started calling me an idiot liberal while claiming you weren't a hateful, racist, bigoted son of a bitch I had to stop. My spleen was threatening to explode from laughing too hard. I really don't feel like going through and combatting you on every single point you made that was erroneous so it's a lot easier for me to just say you're pretty much 95-100% full of ****.
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You mocked Muslims, the flag lapel incident which I happen to agree with, you don't respect this country by sticking the flag on every goddamn thing. This country isn't the flag, it's the country, there's respect for what the flag represents, and there's using the flag as a religious icon. Wearing the flag pin on the lapel and going "LOOOOKKKIITTT MY FLAG PIN I'm SOOOOOO PATRIOTIC!!!!" That's not patriotism, that's cheap knockoff nationalism, false patriotism. Show me real patriotism, show me real love for the country. Not nationalistic drivel.
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jakesguile5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Also at the end of your statement le batshite you start talking about Obama amassing more debt than any president in the past or all combined.
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I believe you're thinking of Bush. The debt is his fault, not Obamas. But go ahead and spin it whichever way you want Mr. Bigot H. Racist.
I'm sure glad I live in the real world and not in the world you've created for yourself....perhaps a few less hits of acid Comrade, you're on one hell of a bad trip.
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galletta61215 months, 2 weeks ago
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Who the hell you think your kidding JAKEO? You have no idea what I wrote. You went through the post at the speed of a professional illiterate, saw something that you interpreted as racist, and lashed out with a fury of typical angry liberal. Why don't you go grab yourself an interpreter and read it again, that way there will be no need to throw around labels like "KKK"
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I see a pattern with you. You seek out other peoples posts, and you comment on things you are just incapable of understanding. If you have nothing of value to say, and you feel you need to get your frustrations out on something, there are plenty of free game site you can amuse yourself with, otherwise, be nice, and try to disagree in a civilized manner.
Do I have to block you? I believe in free speech so I'm going to let you slide this time. BE NICE!-
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jakesguile5 months, 2 weeks ago
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Go ahead and block me Galletta, your post was clearly racist. You spent an entire post bitching about how the whites aren't guilty of racism and therefore the race card is stupid. While the race card is a poor choice to use, your little line about "a race of people fed up by the failings of other races of people" that line is RACIST.
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You bitch on and on about Obama possibly having other viewpoints and other beliefs beyond Christianity... That brings up two VERY important questions. 1) You know that he is Christian, not Islamic right? 2) Even if he WAS, what is the matter with that? What's wrong with believing in the teachings of Islam? -
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jakesguile5 months, 2 weeks ago
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I seek out people who make ******* comments about gays mostly, but occasionally branch out into batshit because I enjoy listening to psychopaths like you go nuts, it's fun to debate you. It's like debating twelve year olds, I just have to use high school level knowledge to discredit any single thing you people say. I could use college level intellect, with three psychology classes and APUSH in Junior year, and AP/Honors US Gov in Senior year of HS I know more than enough to debate people like you.
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Stop drinking Dale Gribble's Kool-Aid
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galletta61215 months, 2 weeks ago
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If these brainwased haters of life don't know the difference between confronting issues in a civilized fashion, instead of resorting to violence, it really makes no difference what we do.
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Liberals cannot rationalize why Islamic extremists would kill for no other reason than because their religious beliefs compel them to do so.
In a liberals mind, terrorists kill because they want something or because we did something that makes them kill and if we only gave them something or stopped doing whatever it is that they don’t like, they would be happy and stop killing.
The truth is; Islamic terrorists would kill millions if they simply had the means to do so. Negotiating or appeasing those whose position is non-negotiable and are willing to die for their cause is no different than trying to negotiate with a hungry lion who has you cornered in the jungle. While you try talking to it. it lunges for your throat.
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